Israel be like:
The hacker known as "war-chan."
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It infuriates me how the narrative goes like this: Hamas (or any Palestinian group with even an ounce of power) is comprised of conscious actors who have agency and can/must be held accountable. Meanwhile, Israel is just this nebulous force of nature that happens and thus cannot be held accountable for it's actions (like a hurricane or earthquake).
Doublespeak.
Hamas terrorists were hiding inside the pipes. Like they do every Friday.
They call it "war". Some German journalists call it "militarily operation"
They learned from the best! Only word "special" is missing.
Now I'm left wondering what the children of a water system look like.
It just randomly disappeared, no one knows what happened to it 🤷
like Nord stream
we still dont know fuck shit about nordstream, it's theorized that it was ukraine, but we don't exactly have super solid evidence of this. it could've been russia, but let's be real. It probably wasn't. It could've been china, but i doubt that they cared. Could've been the US, i sincerely doubt this. Could've been one of the european nations, or maybe just a rich billionaire or some shit, who knows.
What we do know, is that the attack was for all four of the pipelines, and one of them failed to properly destroy the pipeline, so presumably there is some amount of forensic evidence there. And it seems like nobody really wants to talk about it for fears of starting ww3
Destroyed by both sides in a war cause by a Palestinian government that has majority support. Palestinians should be rising up against their government for starting a war they were not prepared for.
Or maybe, almost a century of colonization on Israel's part has left Palestinians with no choice but to defend themselves violently. Don't want terrorists? Maybe don't bomb civilians and civilian infrastructure. Because every bomb you drop on a residential building is going to end up creating more terrorists than you kill.
Since you say they had no choice but to defend themselves violently pre October 7 then Isreal loses nothing by destroying gaza because they were already radicalized and already had a justification for war. So Isreal should take the opportunity oct7 provided to destroy all their military capabilities.
Palestinians have to realize that their situation isn't getting better when they "violently defend themselves" the only way to improve their situation is through diplomacy amwhich requires making concessions to reach a deal.
I'll remember this argument next time you/others talk about how Gaza is cut off from global markets by Israel
Because it's been a deliberate tactic of De-development
The blockade and Israel’s repeated military offensives have had a heavy toll on Gaza’s essential infrastructure and further debilitated its health system and economy, leaving the area in a state of perpetual humanitarian crisis. Indeed, Israel’s collective punishment of Gaza’s civilian population, the majority of whom are children, has created conditions inimical to human life due to shortages of housing, potable water and electricity, and lack of access to essential medicines and medical care, food, educational equipment and building materials.
- Amnesty International Report pg 26-27
Other reports about how Israel is an Apartheid State: Human Rights Watch Report, B'TSelem Report with quick Explainer
The Israeli imposed closure on Gaza began in 1991, temporarily, becoming permanent in 1993. The barrier began around Gaza around 1972. After the 'disengagement' in 2007, this turned into a full blockade; where Israel has had control over the airspace, borders, and sea. Under the guise of 'dual-use' Israel has restricted food, allocating a minimum supply leading to over half of Gaza being food insecure; construction materials, medical supplies, and other basic necessities have also been restricted.
Gaza Policy Forum summary: Experts agree that Israel’s dual-use policy causes acute distress
Through 1993 Israel imposed a one-way system of tariffs and duties on the importation of goods through its borders; leaving Israel for Gaza, however, no tariffs or other regulations applied. Thus, for Israeli exports to Gaza, the Strip was treated as part of Israel; but for Gazan exports to Israel, the Strip was treated as a foreign entity subject to various “non-tariff barriers.” This placed Israel at a distinct advantage for trading and limited Gaza’s access to Israeli and foreign markets. Gazans had no recourse against such policies, being totally unable to protect themselves with tariffs or exchange rate controls. Thus, they had to pay more for highly protected Israeli products than they would if they had some control over their own economy. Such policies deprived the occupied territories of significant customs revenue, estimated at $118-$176 million in 1986. (Arguably, the economic terms of the Gaza—Jericho Agreement modify the situation only slightly.)
- page 240
In a report released in May 2015, the World Bank revealed that as a result of Israel’s blockade and OPE, Gaza’s manufacturing sector shrank by as much as 60 percent over eight years while real per capita income is 31 percent lower than it was 20 years ago. The report also stated that the blockade alone is responsible for a 50 percent decrease in Gaza’s GDP since 2007. Furthermore, OPE (com- bined with the tunnel closure) exacerbated an already grave situation by reducing Gaza’s economy by an additional $460 million.
- Page 402
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy
Right so logically either:
A) Economic isolation prevents Hamas from purchasing piping from the global market. Which lends credence to my point that they dig up infrastructure to create weapons.
Or B) Gaza is not economically isolated. This isn't true obviously.
im no forensic analyst but i'd probably venture to say that it would have been some number of the explosive munitions that ended up in the ordeal.
As we all know Hamas unchecked friendly fire when they started the server, so nothing in Gaza was damaged by Hamas. So when they engage in a firefight with the IDF, their bullets and rockets have no affect on the property or the people in the area.
Speaking of rockets, could you kindly climb into one and go back to where you came from?
Yeah, the Hamas air force has been really just decimating Gaza.
We'll see there's these things called rockets.
And in Hamas's language they call rocket launch sites Alderaan. Google "The destruction of Alderaan" to learn more.
I have just one question who does everyone literally everyone get downvoted into the grave if you support Israel why? Huh
Take that sentence, replace Israel with Nazi Germany or apartheid South Africa, if you still don't see an issue go get fucking institutionalized
No idea what they had said, but they deleted and slunk back into the shadows.
Turns out, surprisingly, people keep their fucking mouth shut and keep their rotting opinions to themselves when the public pushes back.
Imagine if we never had social media safe-spaces and everyone, everywhere had to face the full repercussions of their ideas online from the broad majority of the world instead of their select communities that support any brainless, heartless idea they have. We would be exploring the galaxy already.
Voicing support of an apartheid settler state doing an ethnic cleansing should rightfully get you boo'd out of whatever room you're standing in. I fail to see the problem here.
Because Israel is bad and supporting Israel is bad.
In many cases it seems like a bait when it's put about their gazan policies. The situation in itself is unique and complicated, but Israel didn't seem to even try to help it for how long this Strip exists. And right now it's hard to tell what they aim at but making living there unbearable, so they'd refuge from what originally started as a refugee camp. Is that the only way? Probably not, but either way it doesn't seem like Israel is struggling with whatever it is doing.
The situation in itself is unique and complicated
i'm not sure how unique this is, though in the modern era, this is certainly a unique event. But going back through human history, covering religion, and the various empires that rose and fell from grace. I'm not sure how unusual it would've been to see this level of war.
You mean the water system which has been cannibalized for years by Hamas to create mortars used to attack Israeli civilians?
Here's more from 2022 where they plugged wells with concrete
Half of Gaza water sites damaged or destroyed, BBC satellite data reveals, (May 8th 2024)
From the above Amnesty article:
In November 1967 the Israeli authorities issued Military Order 158, which stated that Palestinians could not construct any new water installation without first obtaining a permit from the Israeli army. Since then, the extraction of water from any new source or the development of any new water infrastructure would require permits from Israel, which are near impossible to obtain. Palestinians living under Israel’s military occupation continue to suffer the devastating consequences of this order until today. They are unable to drill new water wells, install pumps or deepen existing wells, in addition to being denied access to the Jordan River and fresh water springs. Israel even controls the collection of rain water throughout most of the West Bank, and rainwater harvesting cisterns owned by Palestinian communities are often destroyed by the Israeli army. As a result, some 180 Palestinian communities in rural areas in the occupied West Bank have no access to running water, according to OCHA. Even in towns and villages which are connected to the water network, the taps often run dry.
People like you are unsung heroes in the never ending, always attacked, struggle against ignorance and in this case, a bizarre blend of stupidity and evil to come up with lines like this.
"Gaza is in ruins? Well did you know the palestinian children ruined their own buildings to make rocks to throw at innocent israeli pregnant mothers!"
I cannot fathom how you can look at a slaughter currently taking place and side with the slaughterers and it's incredibly depressing. The only glimmer of hope is that there are people willing to do the work of compiling sources and pushing back on the brain-dead monsters who want to see suffering.
Any response to any of this @Lynthe@sh.itjust.works ?
Who's blowing everything in Gaza up?
Here's the article.. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd119dz515wo
If the infrastructure wasn't intentionally sabotaged by Hamas there would be less suffering. Water infrastructure in Gaza has been suffering for years due to Hamas' actions. Bombing provoked by October 7th and the continued holding of hostages has exacerbated the problem but let's not pretend that municipal water "run" by a genocidal terrorist group was serving all innocent Palestinians with the water they needed prior to the war.
I'm not an expert on any of this, but how are you able to type a line like this:
the water system which has been cannibalized for years by Hamas to create mortars used to attack Israeli civilians
Without realizing how incredibly asinine it sounds? Like, have you ever been outside? Have you ever had a job that handled materials of ANY kind? Do you know how things work at all? Because this is such an obviously stupid line to use to push back on the current fact that innocent people are being killed that it displays either a fantastic level of ignorance, or a fantastic level of evil. It's one or the other, which bad wolf inside you are you feeding? The dumb one or the evil one?
So Hamas made Israel blow shit up, eh?
If the infrastructure wasn't intentionally sabotaged by Hamas there would be less suffering. Water infrastructure in Gaza has been suffering for years due to Hamas' actions. Bombing provoked by October 7th and the continued holding of hostages has exacerbated the problem but let's not pretend that municipal water "run" by a genocidal terrorist group was serving all innocent Palestinians with the water they needed prior to the war.
So, what's your final solution to this Palestinian problem?
The whole Zyklon-B, death camps and train transport would be too much of a hassle and too obvious in the XXI century.
Death by Starvation, Disease and Dehydration is a much cheaper Final Solution and pro-Genocide Propagandists can even blame the victims themselves.
Absolutely unhinged
Aye, that's the one!
