A.I.’s un-learning problem: Researchers say it’s virtually impossible to make an A.I. model ‘forget’ the things it learns from private user data

it's crazy that "it's too hard :(" has become an acceptable justification for just ignoring the law within tech circles

"AI model unlearning" is the equivalent of saying "removing a specific feature from a compiled binary executable". So, yeah, basically not feasible.

But the solution is painfully easy: you remove the data from your training set (ie, the source code), and re-train your model (recompile the executable).

Yes, it may cost you a lot of time and money to accomplish this, but such are the consequences of breaking the law. Maybe be extra careful about obeying laws going forward, eh?

rm -rf *

There, that’ll do it

Just kill ot off and start from the beginning.

Or you know, if it's impossible to strip out individual data, and it's too expensive to retain/retrain models with data removed... Why is everyone overlooking "just don't process private data, and only use public data in model training"?

Delete the AI and restart the training from the original sources minus the information it should not have learned in the first place.

And if they claim "this is more complicated than that" you know their process is f-ed up.

Then delete and start over, or don't use data you don't have explicit permission to use. in the first place.

It's like a thief saying "well, I already fenced most of the stuff so it's too hard to give any of it back. So let's just call it quits, eh?"

For the AI heads here: is this another problem caused by the "black box" style of LLM creation where they don't really know how it actually works, so they don't really know how to take out the data?

Sounds like bullshit.

In June, Google announced a competition for researchers to come up with solutions to A.I.’s inability to forget

Free labor? Hope researches wont fall for this

Because it doesn’t “know” those things in the same way people know things.

Got me a hammer with "AI Alzheimer's" written on the handle...

Start from Scratch B**tch!

"virtually" impossible. hehehe

The Danish government, which has historically been very good about both privacy rights and workers' rights has recently suggested that they are looking into fixing the nurses shortage "via AI".

Our current government is probably the stupidest, most irresponsible and least humanitarian one we've had in my 40 year lifetime if not longer 🤬

I feel like one way to do this would be to break up models and their training data into mini-models and mini-batches of training data instead of one big model, and also restricting training data to that used with permission as well as public domain sources. For all other cases where a company is required to take down information in a model that their permission to use was revoked or expired, they can identify the relevant training data in the mini batches, remove it, then retrain the corresponding mini model more quickly and efficiently than having to retrain the entire massive model.

A major problem with this though would be figuring out how to efficiently query multiple mini models and come up with a single response. I'm not sure how you could do that, at least very well...

It is not impossible, it is just expensive.

Then why they put it in in the first place no? 👁👄👁

Can't they remove the data from the training set and start over?

Aren't people this way too?

Have you tried..

format Earth

Everyone in the thread so triggered lol, so you hear yourselves?