Struggle session: french people have good food
Struggle session: french people have good food
look I don't have enough wifi to look up electoral results and french people won't talk to me, but some of the meals I've had in alpine refuges this week have been the best meals I may have ever had
I am also so wine-drunk and so exhausted from being the fastest hiker I have encountered on the TMB. These may influence my opinions
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I have yet to find German food that fits my tastes, but I guess I'll give it another shot. Gotta say Thai, Indian, and Mexican are probably my favorites. And sushi. I could eat only sushi for the rest of my life and be happy with it.
England?
I really like well prepared cabbage. They absolutely get bland after a couple of days, but even just with salt, if it's fresh it's good.
Death to Terf Island of course.
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A shity little swamp island who specializes in not eating fish. Get fucked.
Cornish pasties, fish and chips (especially in goth paradise Whitby), various stews, shepherds/cottage pie, pork pies, and rarebit all immediately come to mind. Then there's your desserts - apple pie, bakewell tart, rhubarb and gooseberry fools, victoria sponge cake, loads of stuff that tastes great if made properly.
Only problem is most british can't cook.
I could be wrong, but the French people I've met have been the most resistant to going vegan than any race I've even met. It's like all the pigeon and frog and goose they're eating causes them to be unable to eat tofu.
I've met plenty of Spanish people who seemingly can't comprehend that chicken isn't vegetarian.
There's fucking Ortolan that is so shameful it's traditional to put the napkin over your head to hide what the fuck you're actually doing
Can confirm, vegans are an ultra minority here.
One explanation that I find interesting is that all the people who have the right mindset to go vegan in the US do find animal products that are produced by actual farmers in France. In the US that's impossible from what I know. So basically if you hate cruelty you can buy chicken at the local farmer so you know they had an ok life before slaughter.
I know that veganism has a definition of animal rights that go beyond "ethical farming" but veganism is also least present in the countries where people are actually confronted with animal death for consumption at an early age. The state of the USian food industry makes it so much more obvious to just cut animal products because they're all produced so horribly
Americans worship the constitution, europeans worship their local cuisine. it's dumb but everytime i talk about veganism to someone here they act like i'm talking about bombing their hometown
French cuisine is a very complicated way of chugging a whole carton of heavy cream. Sure, it tastes pretty good, but: why?
it tastes pretty good
You've heard of the gallon of milk a day diet, well im on that carton of cream grind
Italian food is 10x better.
Honestly in terms of everything I'd argue Italy is better than France. Prettier country, better food, better wine, more interesting history and culture. Idk why people jerk off France so much when Italy is right there, I'd travel to Italy over France any day.
I've never felt fear for my life like I have when driving in Italy, whereas France is only occasionally a little scary, so that's one thing.
Saying Italy is prettier is something I would contest as well, they both have stunning sections of the Alps and rolling Mediterranean countryside, it's not easy to tell where Italy starts and France ends without the signposts.
Italian food I think is a little nicer, but it's a close contest and French Vs Italian wine I would say goes the other way.
name 1 thing italian that comes from Italy though
Italy is the first Euro country I'm going to when I get the chance. I will walk around Napoli for days and eat until I fucking explode.
Too hot in Italy, other than that fully agree
largely correct but the bread in france is better than in italy imo. overall italy kicks france's ass though
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This is focaccia erasure.
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French food just makes me wish I was eating Latine food, leaving me totally unfulfilled.
Out of like classic western foods it’s pretty good, lots of focus on fresh bread, wine, and cream. Personally I think it’s pretty overrated but I think a lot of westerners with underdeveloped palates are happy to land on the sort of rich and creamy bases that a lot of French food has. I do think that it really has created a concept of high-class dining that seems to preclude the use of animal product (I love cooking and it wasn’t until I start cooking more Indian and Asian food that I realized that a lot of my ideas of incorporating meat and animal product into my diet was simply due to this).
I encountered some dipshit on social media years ago that claimed he could never stop eating animals or their products because they were required for authentic
cuisine.Yeah really I think it’s not good that this cuisine that’s so meat/diary focused is elevated to this status of being sort of revered. Like conceptually I think French food is all about taking these base flavors that were available in the west and figuring out how to dial them up to a 10, and you can still keep that spirit, but the sort of reverence for how is it has to be done “right” keeps people from experimenting.
And yeah people also just suck. I did a French night at my house with my roommates and decided to do ratatouille in the style of the movie and I had one friend just fucking hate it and shit on it. And then he said he hated French food and I told him I could’ve easily just done meat in a wine sauce and you’d love it but you’re not even giving this a fair chance. Like try not to be pissy because we didn’t have some stereotypical meat centerpiece
It's not hard to have good food when your definition of good is "I have covered this thing in a butter sauce"
haha hell yeah
French food slaps. Shame it's overly pretentious a lot of times
Italian food is the most overrated shit ever. America needs to convert all its Italian restaurants into French ones tbh
I tell you hwut, nobody's eating at a restaurant called The ITALIAN Laundry
conflating american "italian" food with the actual food of italy lol
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France tried making a metric system for food quality. This made french cuisine synonymous with quality and paved the way for an inevitable backlash.
What is the TMB?
I don't like butter, meat, bread, or wine so that doesn't leave me with much options in fr*nch "cuisine"
me: "Is there anything on the menu without wine
waiter:
Lol yeah... I'm allergic to grapes, so I can't eat at like any french restaurant
though frankly, I have enough allergies I generally don't feel safe eating at any restaurant
I do like the bastardized french cooking I make for myself at home though, using rice wine, coconut cream, and vegan butter
tbf outside of cajun or indigenous meals - most american food is ass and the quality of ingredients is even worse.
French food is true Fatboy Food. It's like the yank who salivates over a triple bacon burger knew what herbs were.
Its for sure better than anything else in northern Europe but thats not saying much.
It really is amazing how much they managed to accomplish with flour, milk, and the occasional egg.
It makes me wonder what could be accomplished if chefs spent 300 years making the fanciest food possible out of, like, some seed or nut or tuber.
French people have good food.
Hard disagree.
The French are not people.
Their food is pretty good though.
French people have good food, but the whole palette of Chinese cuisine is far more diverse imo, very much not afraid of a char and a skewer. French food is interesting because of how much a single item and it's products are used in any given dish, but overall flavor profile is not acidic enough imo.
well yeah, china is a continents worth of cuisine, of course they have more diversity than any given country in "europe"
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They do tho. You ever try their amora mayo with Dijon? It fucking slaps
I'm probably the best at cooking French stuff just because it's easy af, just load stuff up with butter and cream and savory herbs, thyme and rosemary and all that jazz, don't have to worry about balancing spiciness or complicated flavors just throw a bunch of garlic and onion in there. Ez
Putting butter on everything doesn't count as real food.
what is this anti-butter stance i see often on hexbear
unless it's for vegan reasons butter is good and you can stay mad about it
Butter tastes good. Adding butter to something else is not a crazy skill move
What dishes did you have?
I like the big bread stick
found out the other day that baguette means "wand/rod/stick" in fr*nch
I have been addicted to southeast Asian food since I first started consistently eating it in college. Hard to pick between Vietnamese, Indonesian, and Filipino but they’re all delicious.
Not related to the struggle session, whoops. I guess France is like 1% responsible for some Vietnamese dishes.
Wait till you try Thai and Laos.
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I think you're actually eating Swiss cuisine...Btw, doesn't every culture at least have a broken clock, when it comes to good food?
how can thwre be a struggle about this, french food is delicious, especially the pastries and bread. i'm no francophile but this feels like a one-sided argument
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Counter struggle session: a lot of the best techniques of the French and their sauces have their origins in the kitchen of the feudal Italian peasant.
The French simply lifted it and added the bourgeois decadence of butter and edible flowers. There are some undeniably French things, and they came up with a lot of the vocabulary.
I have done no research to support this thesis but it is an opinion I hold strongly. It makes sense when you consider the trajectory of the Napoleonic era through Italy and I WILL willfully disregard any facts pointing to the contrary because of my biases that are mine and I’m allowed to have them.
All agreement and supporting Information is welcome I will not be responding to any questions from haters OR losers.
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No they really don't, I don't care what anyone says: unspiced food will never ever taste good.
Indian food is good food
Chinese food is good food
Burundi food is good food
Mena/Arab food is good food
Mexican food is good food
French, Italian, Spanish, German, etc, will never be good food unless you're speaking exclusively about the region. The moment you take into account other people's food, you realize that European food is the blandest of all cuisine.
Hell, they eat kebabs and shawarma for fuck's sake even they don't like their food.
