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What's with telling YEARLY salaries?

I think this is mostly a US thing. Why use yearly salary? You're not paid once a year, are you? Most likely once a month. Referencing monthly salary makes much more sense.

"I'm making 50k". Great, now I have to guess - dollars? Monthly? Yearly? If yearly then what's the monthly paycheck? Net? Gross?

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    • Agree. What a weird thing for op to be upset about. I have never once in my many years on this planet had someone confuse an annual salary for a monthly one.

      Annual pay is the standard if you work full time. It's definitely not a rich person thing, it's for taxes, total takehome, budgeting, you name it. In fact thinking about it, I think it'd be more work for me to figure out my budget if it was monthly.

  • It's not just a US thing. I've never actually thought of this until this post, but I'd think it's because taxes are done annually.

    Your employer says they'll give you X amount a year, but you receive X-Y into your account. It's easier to talk about X, then to worry about how Y fluctuates.

    It also makes it feel as if you're making more money. Raises for a year sounds better than when you divide by 12 and get the monthly.

  • As a freelance steadicam operator, my daily rate can vary between $2000 and $4000 per day (including my personal equipment rental). But I don’t work every day, far from it (especially during the current strikes) so a monthly rate is irrelevant. A yearly net revenue is a mettre measure.

  • I used to think in terms of hourly salaries until I got older and got big money jobs that are in yearly salaries.

    I think it comes down to the fundamental difference of salaried jobs vs hourly jobs. Hourly depends on when you're scheduled, how long. It's typically flexible schedules, typically student jobs or generally non-career jobs. So comparing compensation with the hourly rate makes sense. The tax rate varies, the pay varies, everything sort of varies. The only reliable metric there is your actual instant compensation.

    When it comes to salaried jobs, it's usually a flat pay. Sometimes I'll do some overtime, sometimes I do less to compensate for the overtime. The actual hourly rate becomes less relevant, because the hourly rate varies a bit as a result. But also it's no longer a calculation of "I got X hours this week, I can pay for Y expense when I get my paycheck". I get paid the same every time, and I care more about whether I'll overdraft than really how much money I earn per hour. It stops being a useful metric to me. What's $2/h do for me? Can I afford a new TV with that? Then there's bonuses typically given as one time payments, lots of one time big expenses on the house. Maybe it cost me 2 months worth of salary and I'll pay it over 6 to make it work, but I can look back at the expenses in the year and have a good picture of my expenses overall.

    In the end, taxes are yearly income, and a year is a decent period for spiky expenses to wash out. I earn X a year, I get taxed Y on it, my expenses were Z, and I have W savings that went into retirement. I don't really have a use for looking at my expenses weekly/bi-weekly/monthly.

    Yearly salaries are assumed in local currency (so USD in the US, CAD in Canada), and the gross amount. Because my friend in Ontario might make the same salary as I do in Québec, but we're taxed differently, but we can still compare absolute compensation. Same in the US, it varies by state. You may have more or less deducted for various things, maybe you owe back taxes, maybe you owe child support, maybe you have a more expensive insurance plan, maybe you're throwing more in your retirement plan. But total gross yearly compensation is the same, and includes pretty much everything: tax returns, tax dues, bonuses.

    Another example: I'm throwing a lot of money on my retirement account. In Canada, this is non taxable income. But taxes are taken out of your paycheck. So everything I put in an RRSP turns into an implied tax return which is once a year. I get less net income during the month, but higher net income with the tax return. The only accurate numbers are the overall net and gross yearly income.

  • large part of Europe also.

    also yearly before tax, because employers do not need to know about other incomes and thereof how much money you pay in taxes. you can tell, but they don't need to know.

    when they hire you, they don't know about your taxes, anyway. they put the ad, and if you're hired and have other incomes, you'll pay more taxes out of it.

    yearly because taxes are paid yearly.

    some people are paid weekly, some monthly.

    so yearly becomes the comparison to help taxes and compare across the market which might pay at different frequency.

    it helps account for your budget and their budget.

    if you don't care about budgeting or calculate taxes, you make the math.

  • In Spain it is also yearly. In general the annual salary is divided in 14 payments, unless you ask to have it divided by 12, depends on the employer, so it makes sense.

    The income tax is also annual based. So depending how much you earned during the fiscal year you have a different tax rate. (And part of the income tax rate is dependent on the "state" but they are all more or less similar).

  • In my last three jobs, I was paid weekly, then bimonthly, and currently every two weeks. Weekly and every two weeks is easy to convert, but bimonthly my pay would fluctuate slightly.

    There are also yearly bonuses and similar that would not be included.

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