I've taken too much kratom and felt like my eyes were rapidly twitching side to side. Made my vision blurry and gives me motion sickness. I don't know if that's what you mean by "wobbles".
I take kratom every day. It's good as an opiate maintenance med, keeps me from getting back on opiates, and it helped me when I was in a bad depression. I just wish it had a longer half-life, it's inconvenient to take when I'm not at home and I'm looking for a job right now. I'm tapering off just so I don't have to worry about that hassle.
I'm kicking myself for not getting a Suboxone script when you could still get them via telemedicine in my state. I asked my psych about it recently, but they won't give me one unless I'm in active addiction and get a positive drug screen to prove it. Pretty dumb that the system requires me to have a relapse to get the meds to prevent a relapse.
Hey I didn't see this comment back when you posted it, but better late than never. Just wanted to say that you might be able to get around the need for a positive opioid urine test by claiming to be addicted to fentanyl analogs. That's how I got my Buprenorphine script to prevent relapse despite not actually actively using at the time.
The newer RC opioid analogs are getting very weird and numerous, it's impossible to test for all of them. There's a good chance your doctor will just take your word for it in that case. Tell them you're worried you'll accidentally OD soon and really need help.
That's a good idea, thanks
I have. Red Bali. Usually 2x 5gram doses, 10am and 5pm.
Never had wobbles to speak of.
Didn't you tell me you stopped taking it in my other kratom thread? What made you start again?
Yeah, I did stop. And then I started again.
It’s entirely possible that my addiction issues are having their way. Long hours, being worn to the bone and not being able to rest, I dunno.
Never had the pleasure, but I do Buprenorphine every day and I hear it's similar. Anyone have experience with both who can confirm? They're both partial agonists at the mu opioid receptor, which results in them not having the lethal overdose problem that regular opioids have. Though Buprenorphine is massively stronger in terms of both potency and receptor affinity, a huge boon for addiction treatment because the high affinity results in a blockade effect preventing weaker opioids from working even if they're full agonists.
Still, they are similar enough that if I ever wanted to ditch Buprenorphine, I'd probably replace it with Kratom. That'd be much cheaper too, apparently you can bulk order Kratom by the kilo for pretty cheap. Maybe I'd go for the 7-OH-Mitragynine extract route for a while if it's not banned by the time I get to that stage in my life.
7OH is a derivative of the usual Mitragynine found in Kratom, but it's massively more potent and has none of the wobbles side effect you get with high doses of Mitragynine. It's also a partial agonist, so it retains a great safety profile, but nonetheless the potency of this very available opioid has scared a lot of people into lobbying to ban it. Including some of the groups that originally successfully lobbied the DEA away from banning Kratom a few years ago, unfortunately.
I was on subs for about a year and this asshole nurse woman cut me off because I missed a couple of appointments.
Cut me off cold turkey dude while I was in the middle of withdrawal. Fuck that woman, soured me on ever getting on subs again.
Literally told me to go to detox and just grab a blanket pretty much and white knuckle it.
Fuck. That. So. Much. I started to taper pretty much as soon as I got on subs because I was so worried about getting cut off. It took me 9 months of being sick every single day and a week of regular ass H style withdraw once I jumped off. They call subs and methadone chemical handcuffs for a reason.
Fuck, that's really awful, sorry this happened to you. Like, this shit is patient abandonment. It really should be illegal to kick people off maintenance opioids without VERY good reason. Bupe withdrawals are torturous, often worse than the withdrawals you get from full agonists because they last so long. That kind of reckless abandon with people's treatment can easily result in relapse and fatal overdose.
Yeah, sounds like you had too much
Like a little wiggly feeling all over your body, that doesn't last very long? Or do you mean like dizziness?
