Plant-based meat needs government support to scale up, but a culture war stands in the way
Plant-based meat needs government support to scale up, but a culture war stands in the way
Public funding helped electric vehicles go mainstream. Are alternative proteins next — or are they too polarizing?
They don't even need government support. They just need AnAg based products to not be subsidized by our taxes, and they'd by ahead by a mile, price wise.
alternative proteins
alternative second-hand proteins.
https://awellfedworld.org/wp-content/uploads/Bean-Recipes-Ellen-Kanner.pdf
I'm Latino and went vegetarian. I just eat a shit load of beans now... Even more so.
I'm eating beans right now. I made some kidney bean "tofu".
two avocado tacos with black beans and some cilantro lime slaw have 30 grams of fiber, too. You can get almost half a day's worth of fiber from just a cup of black beans and they are no work to make if you have an instant pot!
I recently introduced Impossible burger for my family's taco night and it's become my kids preference. Price-wise, because my grocer refuses to sell exactly 1 lb. of beef they sell 1.15-1.3lbs for money grabbing), it's only about a dollar more.
Well worth it! It's gaining popularity for a reason. If it was priced evenly with beef, the meat industry would be sweating like they had the meat sweats.
sounds like they need to get in bed with politicians damnit
I honestly don't get the point of this. Plant foods taste great, I don't need them to be further processed to taste like meat.
Food is so deep, culturally speaking. Many people have deep memories and positive associations with making meat dishes, and "forcing" plant based meats looks like the government intruding on that. It feels overbearing for a government to try and reduce eating of meat through any monetary means, even if it just means reducing / removing subsidies already in place.
It's doubly worse because splitting meat eating through money means the rich can still afford and eat meat in plentiful ways, where the poor won't be able to. This makes meat a wealth signifier (more than it already is), which can backfire pretty spectacularly.
In a policy sense, I actually have no idea how to limit meat eating. Even Carbon Taxes tend to have exceptions for beef.
I stand in the way by just sticking to my local farmers and butchers. But to be fair, it's not just because of fake meat. It's because of animal treatment by the food industry.
I applaude your resolution, but keep in mind that local and small scale does not mean cruelty free (even ignoring the part where they have to die). It's certainly better than factory farms, but it's not immediately good.
Also tested long term for health effects. Don't add more packed food in my fridge
Not sure why you’re downvoted…
I enjoy a fake burger from time to time, but if we are honest, then criticizing ultra processed foods should always be fair game. These fake meats should be eaten in moderation next to a nutritionally balanced diet of mostly whole ingredients.
More from the produce section and less plastic wrapped goods.
The downvotes are because the comment lacks a little context. Impossible meat isn't around to replace vegetables, it's around to replace ground beef, which is pretty generally regarded as not healthy to begin with. And adding to that, the other processed fake meat products (chicken nuggets, hot dogs, sausages, ......) Are really just 1:1 swaps for processed meats.
My guess is at least 99.97% of people aren't grinding their own free range antibiotic free chicken into a pulp, then stamping them into Dino shapes and breading them with organic flour, before frying them in hand pressed olive oil from their organic olive orchard.
Fake meats often aren't great for you, but generally speaking, neither are the things they're trying to replace.
They're being downvoted because the UPF moral panic is being used to promote the meat industry, which is what this is in this context. They have entire ad campaigns for it, so this user's comment is essentially repeating a Big Beef ad.
It tastes disgusting. If plant based meat is going to get ANY traction, food companies need to find a way to make it palatable.
I had some Boca burgers a couple of days ago and they were great. I like the Boca meatballs and Morning Star bacon a lot too. So, you might not like it, or maybe you haven't found the right one for you yet.
Used to eat Boca Burgers after school around 15 years ago and those things slapped. Like a minute in the microwave, throw some Monterey jack cheese on that bad boy, tasted like a slightly dry chicken sandwich.
Not sure if the recipie has changed since the plant based meat revolution, but I would have no problem with it replacing general consumption meat.
I still think there should be natural livestock meat available to consumers. Unless the dish your eating is meat focused( i.e. steak, bone-in chicken, ribs) I think there are very few who really would care/notice if the meat in their food was plants, because it's essentially a fat saturated spice delivery tool.
Im glad you found something in this line you enjoy! I do product testing for a food manufacturer, and customers have been ubiquitous in saying they hate the plant based products. So I am speaking from my professional experience.
That said, things are getting better in this world, and hopefully soon we will have good meat alternatives that are not just niche cases.
Im not sure what it is, but does anyone else feel terrible after eating these simulated meat brands? Specifically ones like Beyond and Impossible trying to simulate the exact taste
Actually the opposite for me. Real meat has so much grease in it I often feel bloated after a burger. Beyond meat burgers are fine for me.
Ya feel much cleaner in the tum. First I’ve read of aches from Beyondpossible
I can eat several Burger King veggie burgers and feel fine while if I eat the normal whoppers in the same amount I will feel full and bloated afterwards.
Opposite.
Go. Vegan.
Ive never eaten meat my friend. Just because something is vegan doesnt mean it has to agree with my body
I've never eaten meat in my life but I don't want important conversations like this shut down by vegan zealots, if it's not good or healthy I want to know.
no i love the beyond spicy italian sausages on a corn tortilla with some jalapeño mustard i would eat them every day if they weren't so expensive!
Beyond and Gardein, yes. Impossible not so much though. The first version messed with me in the same way, but the second version they put out hasn't yet.
I don't remember why I don't like beyond tbh, but impossible killed 188 rats to make their products if I recall correctly, it's not even vegan. If it makes you feel sick, there's no good reason to buy it - there's lots of other options out there that taste good.
Apparently it’s debated whether the one-time killin’ affects the veganiciousness
Inclined to believe they do feel bad about it:
That's hilarious, I guess its true what they say fanatics always starve.
188 is a crazy low number, you think they only killed those 188 and just let thousands of others infest their factory? Every food prep company is killing way more rats and mice, only caring about those killed for science is silly.
We don't need parasite support for GMO frankenfoods.
All the foods that we eat are genetically modified, or at least genetically improved. We aren't eating the same vegetables as our ancestors. We have genetically modified the plants and animals that we eat through millennia of selective breeding and agriculture techniques. This was all happening long before modern GMO techniques were even possible.
Hahahaha tell me you're uneducated without telling me you're uneducated