I live in Spain, and in spite of paying a shitton of money in taxes, I can't fathom changing that for a system like the US. Man, my SO is in dialysis, the amount of money we would need to spend for something like this in the US it would put us on the street right away.
What is happening in north America? North of the border you also have people asking to stay in prison because they have no hope of getting somewhere to live, and now this?
No, mine was before MAID came in to effect I think, and not terminal if they cured it. I do know someone who had terminal situation and they took the MAID option to avoid 6 weeks of pain and degradation
It would probably be cheaper for me to drive up to White Rock or Abbotsford BC then go see a doctor in Seattle even with my insurance. But when you get sick it's kind of hard to shop around.
Maybe the meme community isn’t the best place to ask but would cancer treatment not be covered by your health insurance in the US?
I keep seeing posts that people with long-term health issues have to pay for it themselves and that just feels like something you’d have the insurance for.
I have a very, very limited understanding of the subject, so take this with a lethal dose of salt, but I'm under the impression that the US healthcare system is an absolute minefield, and not everyone has equal access to it, even via insurance, in the ways you might otherwise typically expect.
That is correct. Let’s say me and my dad get cancer. We both have health insurance provided by our employers.
Dad:
Initial deductible (cost before insurance kicks in): $10,000
Max out of pocket (in network): $20,000
They cover initial treatment but the anesthesiologist is “out of network.” That charge goes to the separate deductible for out of network costs, dad pays $30k total, of a $500k “sticker price.”
Me:
Deductible: $4,200
Max out of pocket: $4,200
Initial treatment is covered by insurance, no provider listed as out of network. Total cost to me: $4,200 out of a $500k bill.
Every insurance is different, each hospital will do different things to get extra money, and you have no way of knowing what 1 piece of the treatment is out of network until after you’ve already had the treatment. Our system sucks
Not everyone in the US has health insurance or (more importantly) the same quality of health insurance. Insurers here have the final say on whether they'll cover certain treatments, medicines, procedures, doctors, practices, etc. as well as how much they'll cover, how much they'll charge the patient, or how much any use of the insurance will affect the price of said insurance going forward. Insurance often prefers you work with doctors, practices, facilities, etc. within their own list of approved doctors, practices, etc. and going outside of that list for any reason may cause you to have to pay for any goods or services out of pocket. Then lastly you have to remember that both health insurance as well as hospitals and clinics are generally for profit businesses trying to maximize profit and minimize costs.
And the little cherry on top of the whole situation is we're in a political landscape where even having universal access to healthcare is labeled as communist/socialist by many in a derogatory way.
Hard to hold down a job to pay for rent/mortgage, car payments, food, utilities, etc. While battling cancer. Your medical expenses may be covered to a small extent but you don't live for free when you are sick.
The powers that be decided to tie good health insurance to your job, which as a catch 22 is incredibly hard to keep if you have something serious that you would actually need the insurance for like cancer.
Instead one could also move to a country with universal health care. If you do this when you are still healthy, you could prevent this with regular check ups. Of course sometimes can be missed something and waiting times can be quiet long but that is not exclusive to universal healthcare.
Many of those countries won't accept "I need to live here for the free health care" on a citizenship application. They expect you to bring something to the table, some kind of skill for which they have a need.
You don't need the citizenship to live somewhere forever. At least not in Austria. And you neither need something to bring to the table. It's enough if you want to live there.