Jacobin - It's all Trots right?
Jacobin - It's all Trots right?
Very sleek stuff, but reading the analysis gives bad vibes - what is their deal? Trot stuff? Can someone give me a good workup (I'm lazy)?
They let all kinds of leftists write stuff, but the overall vibe is IMO more academic-brained bad rather than Trotskyist, trot vibes are a little bit funnier.
That's a good point, like they allowed some nerd-brained dudes read the cliffnotes of Marxism and then locked them in a room with a high grade printer and the 1968 Encyclopedia Britanniaca
It's all Trots right?
I literally spit my drink everywhere what the fuck lol
Bhaskar Sunkara created Jacobin specifically with the intent of making Marxism more academic and aimed at the intelligentsia.
If you think that sounds like an attempt to sequester Marxism away from the proletariat by concealing it with obscurantist language and focusing on topics that are divorced from the concerns of the working class in order to strip all revolutionary potential from Marxism, well have you ever considered that maybe Kautsky was right all along?
Bhaskar Sunkara created Jacobin specifically with the intent of making Marxism more academic and aimed at the intelligentsia.
Menshevism then
The name:
JacobinThe character of the writing:
Narodnik
is that true? it's really not a very highbrow publication, and it's not like marxists need help being obscurantist
There was a quote from him about Jacobin wanting to be highbrow from a long time ago. I have probably read two Jacobin articles since the early days of the publication so I'm not sure where it's at today tbh.
Sunkara is a curious figure because he either changes his position a lot, he says what his interviewer wants to hear, or he is intentionally concealing what his goals are. He vacillates from being a loyal opposition Democrat supporter to a revolutionary communist to a person who extols the virtues of social democracy and European welfare capitalism. It could be that he's just flattering whoever hosts him or that he's trying to sugarcoat his words so that his message is well-received by the audience of the publication in question idk. I haven't bothered to look closely enough to try getting a decent read on the guy.
Maybe obscurantist was a poor choice of words on my part but in that old quote he was saying that he wanted to make a socialist publication that was slick and intellectual. So if I gave the impression that he said he wanted to rival French philosophers or the Frankfurt School for their obscuranism then that's my bad.
Jacobin is like the DSA, all over the place and often quite shit
Even the other trots dunk on them, e.g. WSWS - Jacobin magazine embraces Trump administration’s murderous “herd immunity” policy
As long as they're not talking about how communist AES is WSWS has fairly good takes.
Or ML parties, broadly speaking
WSWS published a series of articles defending Roman Polanski and a bunch of stuff against #MeToo. I don't think they have good takes outside AES either. I believe that they think feminism is "identity politics" and a distraction from revolution, which will somehow unify the whole working class without addressing the special problems within its constituent blocs. Common L.
Stalin Head In Hands: Just send them to Siberia to work it out
I think they're closer to where the DSA was maybe 6-7 years ago when it was basically an amalgam of social democratic aims and means with Trotskyist analysis.
No, worse, Kautskytes: https://jacobin.com/2019/04/karl-kautsky-democratic-socialism-elections-rupture
it's literally called Jacobin, they're liberals don't overthink this
I prefer Teen Vogue.
They come out on the side of the US state dept too often.
They have good takes and bad takes, when it comes to socialist advocacy I don't think Jacobin is really something worth getting upset over
Jacobin, don't you mean Yakubian?
they have everyone from liberals to soc-dems to actual communists
More like jack off in a bin
More like Jack-deez-nutz-abin
Ye Jacobin by name, give an ear, give an ear,
Ye Jacobin by name, give an ear,
Ye Jacobin by name,
Your fautes I will proclaim,
Your doctrines I maun blame, you shall hear, you shall hear Your doctrines I maun blame, you shall hearTo liberals you do bow, lend an ear lend an ear
To liberals you do bow, lend an earTo liberals you bow, with avaricious caw
Your unbecoming trows bring your traitors heart to shewYour base revision open and clear, yes it's clear. Your base revision open and clear
Jacobin is by and large good. As another commenter pointed out, they give space to all kinds of lefties. That leads to some pretty lib takes now and then, especially in the online edition. If tendencial purity or hard-line anti-electoralism is your chief desire then sure, not for you. But I think generally it's good for promoting left unity, discussing historical and current events, propagating trade union news &c. It's probably the closest we've got to a mass left publication in the US.
I think it's pretty broad, has different kinds of leftist. Haven't read it much either (I'm lazy)
The glossy cover and infographics are cool, but reading the articles makes you go "huh?"
It’s a magazine for ppl who don’t read, but think they’re smart.
Ime they're often profoundly ignorant on anything outside the US, but I hear there's now a Lat Am franchise that is much better
Wish they were.
BTW anyone can send articles there so while i like to dunk on their shitty takes i think it would be more constructive if ppl just started sending in articles debunking the shitty takes (theres a good chance they wont publish them tho but then again there are other places you can send them).
What i want to say is, ive been in this space for about seven years and id love it if the relentless critiques people can muster up here would leak from the commentariat to the surface.
CIA. Look at what they say about Uyghur genocide. Same as democracy now which is the same as MSNBC which is the same as fox news which is the same as OAN.
Where else then Sir Lanka and maybe Ireland have Trotskyists had anything close to minor success?
