Panasonic Announces Return to the US with New Line-Up of OLED and Mini-LED TVs with Fire TV Built In

New Line-Up of OLED and Mini-LED TVs
Oh, interesting…
with Fire TV built in

They can fuck off if they think I'm buying anything with Amazon spyware built into it.
- No one is forcing you to connect your TV to the Internet. You can use it in offline mode and it will work just fine.
  
  My definition of "just fine" isn't a weird little Android spinoff. TV should have a normal input selector, maybe a settings menu.
  
  Hopefully this is true because I’ve heard from people trying to do just that with other “Smart TVs” that won’t work at all without an internet connection and account at least for initial setup.
- I'll take the Google spyware over the Amazon spyware any day
  
  Lolwat

The feature I want is nothing built in and no internet connection but plenty of ports and wireless
- A TV with both Miracast (Chromecast) AND AirPlay support would be a DREAM
  
  Miracast and Chromecast are different. Miracast is the open standard while Chromecast is Google’s proprietary casting protocol.
  Roku supports both Miracast and AirPlay, but I don’t think it supports Chromecast.

A long time ago, I saw a post on Reddit from a user saying (paraphrasing because it was a long long time ago) "the only thing I want from a TV is an HDMI capable rectangle."

Basically the only option I have found for a non-connected/smart/spyware tv in the last few months are commercial displays. They must price in the ad revenue to the consumer stuff because the price of those commercial displays is ~4x.
- Can't you simply not connect your display to the Internet, or place it after a firewall which is blocking the internet traffic.
  I seriously don't understand your concerns.
  
  You can, but it's not a perfect solution. Mostly because the TVs interface is still designed around this app mentality.
  I bought a Samsung TV recently and it's never been on the internet, but I still have to go to a dead home screen where all of the ads would be just to switch inputs and half the buttons on the remote are for services I don't want.
  
  This. I believe projectors are still untainted as of yet as well.
  
  Can’t you simply not connect your display to the Internet
  Probably, but maybe not. I can think of three ways a Smart TV could potentially get internet access without the owners knowledge.
  Amazon Sidewalk
  The TV Manufacturer cuts a deal to access the closed WiFi network that many cable operators have on their cable modems or routers.
  Via the manufacturers app installed on a smart phone. They often use the app to make setup easier and / or to cast content. There's no reason the TV can't log data until the app connects and then use the app to transmit that data to the manufacturer.
  So while the owner could choose not to give their Smart TV a wifi connection that doesn't mean the TV can't get one another way.
- Commercial displays often times are more robust as well, designed to be installed and stay on / be switched on and off way more times than your consumer level product.
  Also, yes 100% advertising revenue is baked into the consumer products. They’re being paid to sell you the tv by their 3rd parties too.

Is there any OLED TV's out there that has only basic feature without any smart software or google software or other crap thing built in nowadays ?
I'd like basic feature OLED TV's like the old times without anyone spying into it.
Smart TV's had short lifespan compared to TV's that had only basic feature because smart TV's can do anything like smartphones does. i don't need TV's that can mimic my smartphone but in 4K UHD 120FPS, i just need OLED TV's than can display from HDMI or display port, nothing more, nothing less
- You're describing a monitor.
  
  Give them time until they figure out a way to make smart monitors sell somewhat and the entire industry decides that's the way to go
- Just dont connect it to the internet.
  That's what i do with my OLED screen. It acts as a monitor for my HTPC. I dont use any of the apps on the TV
- IMHO, it’s best to get a TV with CES and a good amount of HMDI inputs with newer specs.
  Don’t connect the TV to the internet, and use external media players. That’s what I do with my Samsung.

I wish this was an article with some analysis. This is literally just the press release from Panasonic’s marketing department.
- The article in my feeds I saw was from Forbes. I was gonna link to it, but it's paywalled:
  https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2024/09/04/panasonic-returns-to-the-us-tv-market/