Remember when tech workers dreamed of working for a big company for a few years, before striking out on their own to start their own company that would knock that tech giant over?
Then that dream shrank to: work for a giant for a few years, quit, do a fake startup, get acqui-hired by your old employer, as a complicated way of getting a bonus and a promotion.
Then the dream shrank further: work for a tech giant for your whole life, get free kombucha and massages on Wednesdays.
And now, the dream is over. All that’s left is: work for a tech giant until they fire your ass, like those 12,000 Googlers who got fired six months after a stock buyback that would have paid their salaries for the next 27 years.
If you insist on using Marxist terminology, it would greatly benefit you to read some actual Marxist theory. I'm not saying that Gramsci wasn't a Marxist either. He was. You clearly don't understand these terms, however.
To be honest I am relieved to not have your approval on this. You all guys are so completely out of your mind, that agreeing with you would mean something is really wrong with me.
I'll ask my google friends, now that they have suddenly become proletariat, to stop by their proletarian loft by the lake with no offspring whatsoever to arrange seizing the means of production. We'll arrange it between their trip in costa Rica and their Kenyan safari. We wait for their tesla to fully recharge though.
They should first reinvest all their google stocks, as market do not value proletarian revolution, and the stock price might get an hit.
I heard fake communists were a bit crazy around here. But this whole thread is another level crazy
You're being told by basically everyone in this thread that your ideas are incorrect. Either take this as an opportunity to reflect on this and perhaps come to a different conclusion or take the L and move on. Go touch some grass.
Wow a bunch of random weirdos downvoted me on lemmy. What a prove you are right. Marx was never downvoted on lemmy. Only logical conclusion is that you are the new Marx. Marx, the paladin of the mainstream opinions on political science platform lemmy
Grow up please. Learn how to discuss as an adult. You agree with the guy sharing hentai furry porn on 4chan. Downvotes on social media mean nothing, they are not a prove of anything. Otherwise novax would be right based on Facebook likes
It should mean something that users from almost every major instance have opposed you on a number of well reasoned and argued grounds.
Literally everyone is telling you you’re wrong. It doesn’t mean you’re on to something, it means you need to go the fuck back to the books, any books, and figure out why you’re wrong.
Ok, my opinion is different from gayhitler. That's actually reassuring.
Thanks for intervening.
You literally proves that downvotes and upvotes on lemmy count nothing. If an opinion is upvoted by someone that calls himself gayhitler, it must be a stupid opinion.
Hey I got a temp ban for my post and username (typical lemmy homophobia) but I wanted to come back and seriously recommend with nothing but civility that you engage with some of the ideas of people who’ve pushed back against you in this comment thread.
When everyone from conservatives to communists are frothing at the mouth it doesn’t mean you’re doing something right, it doesn’t mean the answer is somewhere in the middle and you found it, it means you overlooked a lot of ideas.
For my part, your claim that tech workers aren’t proletarian is absurd on the face of it because that claim denies the nature of tech work and proletarianization. An alarmingly small number of tech workers hail from the places they’re working in, almost all have moved there for the work. Unless everyone moved away from their families and homes because they just love the idea, they were pushed to move by the lack of work. And while you’re happy to put senior engineers in the tech worker category, call center tech support is notably absent in your analysis. Heck, entry level programmers are absent!
Your claims can only be put together as some form of gatekeeping based on aesthetics: they don’t look poor to you so they can’t be proletarian.