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I'm sure the women will be so very sad

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  • More evidence men should have been given dolls as kids... brought to you by the same men who would flip out if you suggested giving dolls to boys

    • I'm a woman who played with dolls growing up, but I don't understand what you mean. Why would that have helped?

      • I highly recommend Patricia Evans' books on Verbally Abusive Relationships, and Controlling People.

        Basically, when kids get dolls, they understand that they are projecting their daily issues onto the dolls. They get to dress up the doll and put their worries on the doll and do all these things with the doll. When they do that with people, typically other younger kids, they are then taught that people aren't to be treated like dolls. People aren't an extension of our selves. Thus, women tend to be socialized to have better perspective taking skills, and if they need an outlet for this type of behavior, they can use dolls or the Sims etc as a healthy outlet.

        • Interesting, gonna add to the list of things I should read

        • It's not the same but boys of my generation did play with superhero / military dolls, and some of the play scenarios could get quite elaborate.

          But I suppose the dolls didn't represent regular everyday people, so there was less playing with domestic or relatable scenarios.

          • The dolls that you played with then didn't represent women. Are the sex dolls referenced in the OP image military men? Or are they of women?

            Like you perspective take so little from women that you don't even do it here, where it's obvious you should. You dismiss women so much, you thought I meant dolls of "every day people." No, I mean boys need to play with all dolls, sure, but especially dolls that are women and girls so they can dress them up and perform their projections on them and then learn boundaries between the self and others as it relates to how men later treat women.

            I get that you were trying to genuinely connect with your comment. But it was honestly shocking to me how much you missed.

            A few years ago there was a reddit gif on something like r/wholesome of a 5 yr old boy kissing a 5yr old girl on the cheek. It was titled something like, "first rejection." The girl pushes the boy away after he kisses her and she looks upset and wipes her cheek where he kissed her. The boy looked sad.

            I was shocked how many comments (literally thousands) didn't care about the girl's perspective at all. Sure, it was the boy's first rejection, but it was the girl's first sexual assault. What happened to her was a bigger deal. Sure, they are kids and didn't know. I don't think the boy needs anything more than to have a conversation about asking first, and if this is a repeat offense, maybe a time out or grounding (age appropriate punishments). I'm not saying he should be branded as a villain. I'm asking for perspective taking and empathy to the girl in her experience. And that's something most men have been trained to mentally block and they don't even realize it. It's stunning every time.

            • Not sure why you deleted this, I was hoping to reply to it. I want to apologise for projecting. I didn't think of the action figures I grew up with as real dolls until later in life.

              I still think they can be a little 1 dimensional, but that's because of how they're marketed, socialized, etc

              • I honestly thought I was being too harsh and you didn't deserve that for just trying to perspective take and share with me.

                It's important that boys play with girl dolls so they can understand the boundaries between a girl's body and a doll's body. It's okay to dress up a doll, it's not okay to dress up a girl for instance.

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