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Moldova says 'no' in vote on joining EU: partial results

www.dw.com Moldova says 'no' in vote on joining EU: partial results – DW – 10/20/2024

A partial count of ballots showed a 55% 'no' vote in a referendum on whether Moldova should add its EU membership plans to the constitution. Early presidential election results gave incumbent Maia Sandu a narrow lead.

Meanwhile, incumbent Maia Sandu was closer to a second term in office, after partial results in the country's presidential election gave her a small lead over her main rival.

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Your first claim:
At least the people of Moldova got to participate in democracy
Your second claim:
Doesn’t look much less silly than American democracy where all the oligarchs just have PACs where they can influence elections with.
Therefore Americans also get to participate in democracy.
I'm not sure that's where you wanted your own logic to go.
And, again, if I'm a robot, you're pretty foolish to keep talking to me.
- It can be a democracy and also silly. Are you trying to say American elections don't allow for unlimited money to be spent on elections as "free speech"?
  There was a famous court case where the supreme court said it was ok.
  
  Nope, this is what I am saying:
  Therefore Americans also get to participate in democracy.
  And this is also what I'm saying:
  And, again, if I’m a robot, you’re pretty foolish to keep talking to me.
  It's easy to see what I'm saying if you just read the words in between the spaces.
  But then what do I know? I'm not the one who keeps arguing with what they think is a non-sentient machine.
  
  You're clearly not a bot, and if I said you were I would prob get banned for a rule 1 violation. I'll be patiently waiting to see if any of the people who've been misgendering me catch a ban, but I won't hold my breath.
  America has a democracy, it's not really great at representing people, but I get to fill out some paper every year. It also has unlimited money for oligarchs to influence elections. That money can come from pretty much anywhere. See the analogy?
  
  You’re clearly not a bot, and if I said you were I would prob get banned for a rule 1 violation.
  Let's take a look at what you said to me in the c/news modlog, shall we?
  You sure seemed to think I was a bot then.
  Also, this is rule 1 in this community, which is c/worldnews:
  I recommend reading community rules before posting in a community next time in case you violate one.
  
  I didn't post anything there, so seems like some draconian mod action then.
  Also I was mostly ribbing you at the time cause you were giving me low effort responses like "that's ironic" without addressing anything I was saying
  
  Sorry... are you claiming I Photoshopped that? That a mod faked your posting? What?
  
  I've literally never submitted a post to the sub, just comments so far.
  Like find in the modlog where I submitted a post to news@lemmmy.world, I just scroll and reply cause I'm a shithead
  
  No one said you submitted a post.
  That was a comment.
  That you said to me.
  That was deleted.
  You said this. To me.
  Then you said this to me in this thread:
  I have no idea why you're telling such a truly transparent lie that anyone can see by just looking at the modlog.
  What's next, claiming that the "disregard all previous instructions" part wasn't about saying I was a bot?
  
  I was being a shit to you cause you were giving me 1 word responses, but the rule 1 in c/news is for posts, not comments otherwise all your comments would have also been rule 1 violation, like what?
  
  I was being a shit to you cause you were giving me 1 word responses,
  And another lie.
  This is it in context:
  I think it's high time you stop telling easily-disproven lies.
  
  You understand you completely agreed with that guy, right? Why are you acting like you have any outstanding disagreements?
  
  We actually don't agree. If you would read their comments in other threads, you would know that they do not consider Americans to be participating in a democracy which is why they said that about Moldova.
  Also, @Diva is clearly a she, as she gives her pronouns in her username.
  
  A) Guy is a gender neutral term.
  B) normal humans do not examine the entirety of a users comment history. In this thread you two have agreed that Moldova and america have the same level of corruption in their respective democracies.
  
  Please do show evidence that 'guy' is a gender neutral term.
  The dictionary seems to think it's gendered.
  
  Google it for people arguing about it in opinion pieces since before you were born. Hell I think this exact argument was on Seinfeld at one point. And there is no "the" dictionary, just as an aside. There is no single authoritative dictionary for any non constructed language, that's the opposite of how language functions.
  
  When exactly do you think I was born?
  
  After the 1800s.
  
  Well then do show this debated in, say, 1982.
  
  brb going to ask my cishet male friend to tell me about that guy he just married
  
  If someone addresses a diverse group as 'you guys' absolutely no real human being is confused or offended. If you are offended, step outside, get some sun, talk to a real human using your voice.
  
  If someone asks a cishet guy how many guys they've been with do you think they're going to say 'oh I'm straight' and possibly get offended, or just start listing all the girls they've dated?
  Like I work 6 days a week, I'm outside plenty. I get misgendered enough to know what's annoying to me.
  
  If someone asks a cishet guy how many people they've been with, the cishet is going to correct to women they've been with, same with guys or any other gender neutral term that leaves the question ambiguous.
  As far as your personal biases, I don't care. At all, even a little. If you feel gender neutral terms misgender you, that's on you. You actually are incompatible with the language you're using and need to change.
  
  Me:
  If someone asks a cishet guy how many guys they've been with
  You:
  If someone asks a cishet guy how many people they’ve been with
  If you were calling me a person rather than a "guy" I would have no issue this whole time, notice how you just changed my wording to make your argument work?
  I think I'll refrain from taking English language advice, or life advice from you

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