Terraforming Mars team defends AI use as Kickstarter hits $1.3 million
‘It’s too powerful a technology’
A small team of 7 was able to create something of this magnitude , all thanks to the various tools of today like Generative AI.
We talk about the bad stuff of AI. But here's the good... small mom and pop shops being able to release top tier products like the big companies.
It's arguably not good that we're normalizing people being able to use this while its training relied on other creators who were not compensated.
Devil's advocate. It means that only large companies will have AI, as they would be the only ones capable of paying such a large number of people. AI is going to come anyway except now the playing field is even more unfair since you've removed the ability for an individual to use the technology.
Instituting these laws would just be the equivalent of companies pulling the ladder up behind them after taking the average artist's work to use as training data.
As distinct from human artists who pay dividends for every image they've seen, every idea they've heard, and every trend they've followed.
The more this technology shovels into the big fat network of What Is Art, the less any single influence will show through.
Literally the definition of greed. They dont deserve royalties for being an inspiration and moving a weight a fraction of a percentage in one direction...
AI = stolen data
If AI art is stolen data, then every artists on earth are thieves too.
Do you think artists just spontaneously conjure up art? No. Through their entire life of looking at other people's works, they learned how to do stuff, they emulate and they improve. That's how human artists come to be. Do you think artists go around asking permission from millions of past artists if they can learn from their art? Do artists track down whoever made the fediverse logo if I want to make a similar shaped art with it? Hell no. Consent in general is impossible too because whole lot of them are likely too dead to give consent be honest. Its the exact same way AI is made.
Your argument holds no consistent logic.
Furthermore, you likely have a misunderstanding of how AI is trained and works. AI models do not store nor copy art that it's trained on. It studies shapes, concepts, styles, etc. It puts these concepts into matrix of vectors. Billions of images and words are turned into mere 2 gigabytes in something like SD fp16. 2GB is virtually nothing. There's no compression capable of anywhere near that. So unless you actually took very few images and made a 2GB model, it has no capability to store or copy another person's art. It has no knowledge of any existing copyrighted work anymore. It only knows the concepts and these concepts like a circle, square, etc. are not copyrightable.
If you think I'm just being pro-AI for the sake of it. Well, it doesn't matter. Because copyright offices all over the world have started releasing their views on AI art. And it's unanimously in agreement that it's not stolen. Furthermore, resulting AI artworks can be copyrighted (lot more complexity there, but that's for another day).
Good interview. They didn't let them off the hook, but weren't pushing an agenda either.
This is going to be a moving target that someone is going to pay big bucks to figure out in court. International laws are not up to speed on what is or isn't ok here, and the ethical discussion is interesting to watch unfold.
I didn't see the sub at first and thought it was a kickstarter for a real-life mars terraformation project
Awesome, I didn't know they had a kickstarter going. No such thing as bad press I guess.
