Great deal ngl

I am genuinely confused about how Hexbearians thought being dicks on the internet was going to change any hearts and/or minds
- They're simply trolls
  
  The Shittier 4chan™️
- They arent just dicks. They are maniacs who are in favour of the genocides commited against ukranians and uyghurs.
- Because it worked on them. At some point someone was a smug, obnoxious cunt to them online and they were like "Wow, thanks, I guess I'm a communist now!"
  
  Me but with Vaush and he supports a more democratic and less genocidal version of communism.
- ¯(ツ)/¯ I sort of look at them as amusement. It's not like what they want will happen In our lifetimes (or ever probably). I don't necessarily get why everyone hates them, just try looking at them as funny content lol
  
  You must not have seen the amount of genocide denial they do, or the amount of simping for dictators.

Obligatory: fuck hexbear and fuck Lemmygrad.
- Whenever I switch instances first thing I do is block these ones.
  
  You can block specific instances on an account level? Tell me more please.
  
  They have a few instances that are oddly informative. I’m a leftist so I want that kind of news but I really hate their tankie bs.
- But the cool emojis D:
- Stay mad

- I mean it has worked, I never had so much vitriol for weak willed tankies before this!
  
  Im so radicalized, I might vote Neoliberally, woahhhh~ i make compromises with existing powers, oooooo~ I understand that people with different views than me can be reasonable people, ooooh~ spooky ghost hands
  Hexbear is naïve, clinging to foundational theory without understanding the basic tenant of people. If you adopt a lick of psychology or sociology, you quickly understand how no one theory ever solves anything, and antagonizing people into your movement is not a way to turn hearts.
  
  I was shocked to realize that the degens on that instance aren't just trolls setting out to make the far left look as stupid as possible, they're true believers and really are that dumb. For a few harrowing days until they received defederation in exchange for their cool emojis and tankie wordvomit, I wondered whether McCarthy maybe wasn't such a bad guy after all.
- I think people have forgotten that the meme is supposed to be a bad deal?

Well I'm glad Hexbears have stopped spamming pig testicles at least. But. First impressions mean a lot and they did not make a good one.
- Their most obnoxious members really need to learn how to proselytize because they're their own worst enemy.
  You don't lead with the crazy genocide denial, you lead with pointing out stuff like Churchill genociding 3 million Indians with the Bengal famine, or that South Korea was a fascist state before the Korean war.
  Oh, look, so was Vietnam.
  Oh, weird, so was etc etc etc etc
  
  South Korea only fascist before the war. Definitely wasn't a fascist pseudo dictatorship until like what year is it?... I think they're still electing people related to the former dictators or in that weird cult shit. South Korea is like that super crazy cousin you have, that you forget about because their quiet and don't call you very often.
- The people who got PBBd deserved every one of them.
  
  Every person who read the comments on a thread deserved it? The replies being public ruins that excuse.
  I am assuming PBB is some acronym for pig bollocks.
  
  What about the sexual harassment?
- If you were more offended by PPBs than what the people we posted that in response to were saying then you deserved to be offended
  
  You sent it to everyone who said anything you didn't like day one of you federating. Lemmy.ml news and politics communities basically just became a toxic waste dump for a month and a half because hexbears thought people weren't left enough, or thinking that Russia invading Ukraine was bad.

- They are so far from being communist right now. They are just using communism as a mask.
  
  Ayy kinda like most of the authoritarian state capitalist countries they idolise

Oh, there's gonna be some opinions in this thread.

the symbol was making me think it was a cryptocurrency

All I've seen from Hexbear is class consciousness shit, but everybody else has made it the key point of their online existence to rage on them and do all the garbage they accuse hexbear of. 🤷
Sorry y'all can't adequately explain why giving every cent of the economy to three people is a good thing.
EDIT: I hear what people are saying but it sounds like, from my limited experience of looking at posts pushed to me from there, that people are using the actions of a few to discredit the beliefs and opinions of everyone they disagree with.
EDIT2: LOL @ the people calling me names then blocking me for disagreeing with them. Thought that was Hexbear did, not you EnLigHtEnEd TyPeS JFC 😂
- For me it was the brain dead disgusting coments they make about Ukraine and the war.
  
  The ones about how America will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?
  
  Why not discuss your perspective on the international news megathread
  
  You mean our informed comments that actually value the lives of Ukrainians?
  
  I lost any support for them when I saw them cheering the idea that North Korea should be able to nuke other countries as they all cheered happily "Death to America" with heart emojis like there would be no mass suffering and a complete lack of critical thought of what enabling bullies means for the suffering they are wanting to happen.
  They are scared idiots who think appeasing bullies means they will have an easier life and not have to think about how bad things sometimes just have to happen because not everyone is good at heart.
  Then they cover it with false claim that they support all people and they only support communism because of how it would support everyone equally.
  If you actually care about people you don't root for suffering and hurting and you definitely don't wave flags for the bullies just cause it's an easier answer. Life isn't so easy and they don't want to hear it.
- Just try to engage in a good-faith conversation with them. They love to shut that shit down with their weird image spams. And the poop. Like literal images of poop, to scare people off, or something. I really don't get it.
  
  The poop thing has sort of turned into a weird inside joke or virtue signal or something. Sort of like how in the dark ages of the pre-internet Era, nerds would quote LotR and Hitchhiker's Guide at each other to signal that they are nerds and are therefore of one heart and mind
  I think what you are supposed to do is take their shit posts in stride and then shit post back at them. Which I'm not fucking doing.
- It was the calls to murder anyone who supports a democratic candidate, with the justification that cops have killed homeless people that turned me off.
  that and the stupid image emojis
  
  You have sources on that first bit lol? I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
  Unless you’re meaning jokes about fascist voters falling down a manhole or something?
  
  Always fun to see accusations with no link and speculate on what actually happened.
  
  Death to America
  
  our emojis rule, nerd
- The issue with Hexbear is that their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner. About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities. Their political views are less of an issue; it's more about their toxic behaviour.
  
  😔
  
  I mean, that's most people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right, but nobody bats an eye at that because they're upholding the status quo. 🤷
  
  And who exactly do we talk in a demeaning and insulting manner to? What is that the people we respond to that way say?
  No one who posts this kind of civilty or optics concerns about our behaviour ever mentions that.
  If you're more offended by our responses than the things we push back against you deserve to be offended
  
  their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner.
  About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities
  it's more about their toxic behaviour
  This can be interpreted as bad faith if you don't mention towards whom this behavior is directed at.
  Their political views are less of an issue
  Thank you for admitting it's about the optics (which is not a concern for us)
  
  We get that they're toxic, but most people are. Their genocide denial is far more problematic imo.
  Though I have seen them myself and their trolling, vote brigading and harassment is really awful.
- They openly deny the Tianamen Square massacre happened.
- You've only seen class consciouss shit? I'm very sorry you haven't seen more of our sick emojis ::: spoiler emoji spam
  :
  
  :::
  
  I do hate these, are they supposed to take up a whole screens worth of blank space each or is that my Connect app being weird about it.
  
  You do be havin some fire emojis

I’m surprised no one shared all the emoji publicly
- It's not like they're secret.They used to be public on the gittea repository. Can't find the link post federation tho
- it's a bit imperfect, but here's my mirror of the batch as the maintainer. github truncates the list but it's all in there if cloned. i'd rather not restructure the folders since it's easier on my end to have it like that when creating/adding emotes, so