To he fair the Federation was born from NASA and SG-1 came from a military program
Don't forget the C4!
Truly, the Swiss army knife of explosives.
Any Prime Directive was broken a long time ago when a stargate was plopped down on the planet and someone using it claimed themselves as gods. SG-1 shouldn't even be wandering around if anyone was adhering to rules from the beginning.
Give and get!
SG-1 is a great show to watch, especially lately - it makes you feel like there might still be people that care about the world.
Just when you get to the episodes where the meddling civilian oversight committees screws everything up until the brave military breaks the law to save the day, be sure you don't learn the lesson they're trying to teach you.
Would the prime directive apply if SG-1 is interacting with humans originally sourced and trafficked from Earth?
depending on if we're on a point in the timeline before they acquire hyperdrive or not (assuming the hyperdrive effectively counts as the same as a warp drive for prime directive purposes) the prime directive might not apply just because it would be a prewarp culture interacting with another prewarp culture.
I think it's fair to say the prime detective in Stargate would involve Stargates and not warp drives.
It always applies. But they always have some leeway in the shows. Sometimes they're more relaxed and sometimes they're more strict. Depends on how far along they are compared to the federation, civilization wise.
assuming we're talking about some interdimensional shenanigans where the two universes meet: the federation would presumably have to treat the SG universe as separate from themselves, since they have naquadah nukes and stuff which makes it slightly annoying for the federation to claim that this earth falls under federation government. Not to mention civil unrest and stuff.
Asgard approved!
Anyone know where I can stream SG-1? It's been an age lol
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Pluto.tv has a legal 24/7 stream if you're in the usa
I'm just waiting sometimes searching for an in depth guide, or an easy to use tool, to upscale my sg-1 dvd's directly from original non compressed quality, to a more palatable resolution before they are compressed and converted to mkv. Tools being FOSS is a soft requirement, it kind of has to run on Linux, or I need to find an older dual core Intel Mac in storage or run windows in a vm.
I don't have any computers with a DVD drive any more, but I'm not opposed to buying one
German Amazon has it free with ads.
I'm completely clueless. What's the bottom half from? What's the context?
Stargate SG-1
It's a really fantastic show and it holds up as well.
It's from Stargate, but I'm not sure the context of this specific image.
I think the relevant context here is it's a recognizable shot of the cast of Stargate SG-1, as the text over both images contrasts the two shows' attitudes.
Drag is worried about "no gods, no masters". It fucking slaps, it sounds great. There's a lot of emotion in it that's perfectly communicated.
But... Gods being oppressors is a very European view. Do you think Navajo are oppressed by Coyote? Do you think Yindjibarndi view the Rainbow Serpent as a tyrant? What about Maui, is he exacting tithes from the Maori like the Vatican do? Is Anansi hurting the Akan?
Odin and Zeus were pieces of shit, but the idea of gods as tyrants is a view almost exclusive to the areas of the world that had humans as tyrants; the old world. And not even all of it even, the Buddha never ruled over anyone.
Drag worries that "no gods no masters" is pushing an overwhelmingly white stereotype of religion and harming members of religions that don't have oppressive gods.
Drag should read more theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_symbolism#No_gods,_no_masters
Well specifically in Stargate the "gods" were literal aliens that actually treated humans as sort of cattle to host their young, mine their ore, serve as their armies. All that said they do end up visiting places with NA indigenous people and they do actually have a good relationship with their "gods" which staying in line with the theme of the show were a different set of advanced aliens.
Yeah, and there's the Asgard, and Oma Desala. Stargate doesn't unilaterally dismiss the concept of good gods at all. Teal'c might have some baggage about respecting any kind of god, but the rest of the team only cares about the "no masters" part.
The phrase is about hierarchy. Any metaphysical claim can be used to create a "power over" relationship. If a metaphysical belief causes an individual to behave differently a "power over" relationship has been established.
I sense Noble Savage and Orientalism in drags arguments. Why are "power over" relationships stemming from religion only a "white" person problem? Is drag familiar with the Rohingya and their oppressors?
Any metaphysical claim can be used to create a "power over" relationship
But not every metaphysical claim is. There are plenty of metaphysical beings even in European mythology who aren't tyrants or even leaders of anyone. Jormungandr is terribly powerful, but he doesn't rule the world, he just eats it. He doesn't oppress anyone until Ragnarok. And it's not just because he's an animal. The Dryads aren't out here building empires, they just want to be left alone with their trees. Cú Chulainn is a supernaturally good warrior with the Hulk's superpowers, but he doesn't oppress anyone. In fact, when he kills Chulainn's dog, he offers to be the man's hound until he finds a new one. That's humility and respect for other people.
The gods were created by people. And people create gods that match what they see in life. Life is good and life is bad. Gods are good and gods are bad. Gods will be worse in a more oppressive culture, and gods will be better in a less hierarchical culture. There's no doubt that the culture of the people who enslaved the world is worse than the culture of their victims. It's not "noble savage" thinking to say that. It's not that people who don't have kings are better than "normal" people. People who don't have kings ARE normal people. Living in a feudalistic or capitalist society is weird and bad. Anarcho-communism is the way humans naturally live.
And besides, the Mayans gave the Europeans a run for their money in the "sucking and having authoritarian gods" department.
I agree. My patron deity as a pagan is a means of resistance. She’s a reminder that people like me predate the written word. The Sumerian creation story I know involves humans having labor negotiations with the gods.
Drag has a theory about why antitheists attack all gods, despite not having any logical arguments against gods like yours. Drag thinks it's because they're Christians. Cultural Christians. No belief in Jesus, but they still celebrate Christmas and Easter and think abortion and divorce are wrong and all the other Christian beliefs. Christians don't believe in any god but Deus, and white antitheists agree. They believe in Deus enough to make counterarguments, but they don't even dignify your god with that much respect. They're doing a Christianity.
