I'm from the Y'all zone. Is it offensive to call trans people y'all?

As a non-english speaker, I appreciate «Y'all» 'cause it always bug me the absence of a way to reference more than one individual in English.

What you mean «You» is used to reference both one person and a crowd? English is fuck up.

I have a VERY southern friend. He once said "y'all all".

I thought y'all was just a gender neutral term combining you and all.

How would it be wrong or offensive to refer to refer to trans person as "y'all"? Genuine question.

Am I the only one who actually looked for more pixels for this guy?

Anywho, here you go my guy:

Edit: hmmm, Lemmy seems to be compressing it. Here's a link.

How you fuckers doing, eh?

Y’all actually has gained particular traction in the north through the queer community. Most trans people I know use y’all even if their geographic location doesn’t indicate they should

We are afraid to use common greetings now? How about we all refer to each other as "carbon units"?

There are pride buttons that say Y'all means all.

I would have thought that “y’all” is even more so gender neutral and therefore less offensive/more accepted. It’s a contraction of “you all” right?

"y'all" fills a legitimately useful gap the English language has. Other languages have a word like this.

Edit: also something cool I just found out, some languages have a way to disinguish "we" (you and I), and "we" (me and the rest of us, not you). It's called clusivity and is missing from European languages. Many indigenous languages of the Americas and Oceania have this, as well as Vietnamese and northern dialects of Mandarin.

People where I am from call everyone "you guys" - men, women, trans, doesn't matter, everyone is just "you guys" even when it's a woman addressing a group of women.

The literal meaning isn't gender neutral, but in actual practice, it 100% is.

As for "y'all" or "you all", I don't see how it could possibly be interpreted as offensive to any gender.

I'm from Maryland and I said "howdy" in New York and I got roasted by the CVS clerk for 2 full minutes. And then I said "do y'all have Tylenol" in hopes that she could point me in the direction. Another minute of her roasting me...

Second person never has a gender in English. Saying "you" should also be fine, or "thee" if you feel like getting your quaker on.

Special requests notwithstanding - the platinum rule here is just to accommodate whatever you reasonably can.

Having exported myself from the deep South to Yankee land, "Y'all have a good one!" never fails to brighten the day of someone working a cash register.

In general, folks up here really like southern politeness. They think sugar wouldn't melt in my mouth. I get stopped in stores to talk all the time. Pretty frequently, they just give me a discount. I thought Yankees were supposed to be rude, but they're actually really nice in public.

You forgot "Yinz"

I’m from Australia and I’ve started calling all groups of people yall because it’s gender neutral… very unaustralian term, and I love so much the irony of iconic southern terms being used to support trans activism

Youse LOL, almost lost it when I heard it one time

I'm from "you guys" but I've lived in "y'all" and now I'm forever team "y'all," regardless of where I'm living.

It's the best export from the south, except maybe Texas brisket and pecan pie.

Y'all is the opposite of offensive for trans people. I lived in the south for a while, and I now use y'all specifically to be inclusive. I wouldn't say "you guys" is offensive to trans women, but I would say for me and likely other trans women it briefly brings to mind being misgendered in the past, so I would call it a small kindness to ube as gender neutral as possible.

Y'all left y'uns out of the map

Yall is the genderless southern hospitality greeting.

No bullshit no hate. Only yall

It feels like a standard case of it's fine until it isn't. I wouldn't worry about it and only drop it from your vocabulary if you notice it causing harm.

This needs a line going up the Appalachians for the "You-uns" belt.

Oof; noted.

I'll keep that one in the back of my mind as something to watch for.

I mean, neither "you" nor "all" is a gendered term in any way

Fwiw, second person is fine as long as there's no misgendering... It's like calling someone by their name

as a trans person, I'm not offended by y'all in the slightest

"Y'all" has wider reach than this map suggests, particularly in black and queer communities.

I'm not from the south and use "y'all" all the time. Find it very useful for filling in a gap that English has and slightly faster than saying "you all". Its gender neutral in my opinion.

Never once thought of it as offensive.

I'm from New Jersey and have never heard anyone unironically say "youse guys". Side note we also don't call it "Joisey".

Y'all reminds me of the bible belt. I'm not transgender but I am queer and now and then it makes me uncomfortable.

Where's my fellow "yo'd'll"s at

Maine I think loops back around to y’all territory…

Yous in Scotland is great to wind up Proper English speakers. If they whinge they get a y'all

We need a better second person plural in English. Y'all works but its a big language gap

I bought a shirt once in Pittsburgh that says, “Yinz is a gender-neutral p pronoun”

Y'all = you all, which is gender neutral.

Also that map is missing the Chicagoland y'all exclave.

Is guys really needed after youse?

The guys is needed where there's no 2.pl pronoun to distinguish from individual you, but youse fixes that

Trust me there are many more areas that say y'all

People who don't even live in the USA saying "y'all" is pure pain

I'll throw in "folks" as another gender neutral option. I say "you folks" all the time, especially in professional contexts. I'm not from the South, but I have family there so y'all is a part of my vocabulary. I use it in more informal situations pretty commonly.

I don't think "Y'all" would be problematic. But I also offer "You peeps", I enjoy that one more in day to day conversation.

Only if you man in it a "you people" kind of way - like y'all need to stay with your own kind- or something like that.

ITT: Yinzers

I’m on the border of y’all and you guys

If you live on the line, or move north/west, it's now "you all".

Where does this put Scott the Woz?

Should be fine 👍

Is the difference between youse and youse guys the number of people involved? Similar to y'all and all y'all?

In what context(s)?

My boss says “you’ll”

I call everyone brah 🤙

Can "y'all" be singular, since there is "all y'all" for plural?

I can't speak for anyone else, but you seem to be missing the biggest issue with this map: saying "you guys" excludes anyone but those identifying as male. You may not mean it that way, but I've had women be offended when I used that in the past, and I wouldn't like being referred to as a "gal" in a group of women. It's just not accurate.

Personally, for a gender-neutral way of addressing a group, I like "you folks".