Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ @lemmy.dbzer0.com UnixWeeb @lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 mo. ago

Farewell RealDebrid

Following a formal notice from the FNEF (https://fnef.fr/les-adherents/), Real-Debrid is strengthening its anti-piracy measures. As you already know, we actively comply with DMCA and are already blocking a certain number of infringing torrents. In the coming hours: - audiovisual files available on a number of cyberlockers listed on the USTR blacklist or listed in the European "CCounterfeit and Piracy Watch List" will all be blocked. - a filtering by file name will also be applied, in accordance with the request of the FNEF, this may unfortunately lead to false positives that we will process manually. - a blocking of all torrents hashes of private torrent trackers mentioned in cases at the Paris judicial court - a complete purge of files potentially cached on the previously mentioned criteria - the deactivation of the API endpoint /instantAvaibility - a blocking of counterfeit Kodi / Stremio applications to the extent that they are identifiable

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Been using traditional methods to get my isos and store them locally, and on arrs/Plex for well over a decade.

Honestly the debris stuff never ever interested me, unless the data is in your control locally the rug pull is always on the horizon.

I do wish we could make it easier for non-technical folk, not everyone is wrong in the head like I am to be happy enough building and maintaining a NAS and the software stack required.
- Unfortunately not everyone has access to cheap storage so for us a few bucks a month is more cost effective than having to upgrade expensive storage regularly. 😓
  
  Upgrading? Regularly? stares at 25x2TB ancient array
- Real debrid helped me download torrents that had 0 seeds when I tried in any. More than once.
  
  Sad to see them go.
  
  Also great for those files that can only be found in premium sites, even scribd.
- My friend just hooks his laptop up to his TV, connects to his VPN, and plays popcorntime (streaming torrents). He used to use streaming sites, but those have been getting taken down left and right.
Bummer, I renewed my subscription for 6 months just two days ago.

I guess this'll finally be an excuse for me to setup Jellyfin and the arr-stack. I really don't mind too much (honestly I'd be fine just downloading torrents manually for whatever I want to watch) but my roommates really appreciated how easy to use Stremio is.
- Me too, last Friday
  
  You should probably try to get your money back via chargeback. This service is basically useless at this point, so might as well get money back better spent on something else if you still can. Worst they do is ban you from the service, a service they have already made not worth it anymore.
  
  CC: @Evkob@lemmy.ca
- Don't you have to pay for arr services?
  
  A VPN is the only bit you'd pay for, alongside the inevitable mass of HDDs to store everything on once you get addicted to just keeping everything forever in your own personal Netflix.
  
  No, they directly download the files via torrents on your pc
  
  They're not services per se, but are a stack of software that you can kinda "clump" together for the lack of a better word.
  
  For instance I started using qbittorrent client recently instead of Transmission that I was using before as my torrent client because I can't find a way for Transmission to not download malware, and you can also do the very same with the indexer clients such as Jackett or Prowlarr which then talk to other software such as Radarr/Sonarr via API keys and is usually where most get caught out.
  
  Read the docs, get thoroughly confused, and probably do it in docker too as everyone says if your hardware is sufficient.
  
  Don’t have to but get a better experience if pay for newsgroup access.
I’d recommend a move to torbox, trying it out now and honestly like it more than RD.

Thanks RD for helping me find a better service
Glad I never subscribed to it.
- Me too, I kind of always saw this coming and it really pissed me off when elitist pirates would try and bully people into buying it. Now I can and will rub their faces in it.
  
  I wouldn't call anyone buying into a piracy service an elite pirate, they are the piracy equivalent of script kiddies.
  
  I mean I'm just gonna go buy an identical service, so have fun with your face rubbing.
Just in time for Usenet Black Friday sales :)
- And what country are they located, pray tell?
  
  They're located all over the world, just find one that's close to you and enjoy :)
What are peoples preferred alternatives to use with stemio?

As others in this thread I literally just paid for 6 months on Realdebrid Woop!
- Do a chargeback, get your money back for it, assuming you can and it hasn't been too long. What are they gonna do? Ban you? Ha that's rich their service is about to become darn near worthless, that's an empty threat that doesn't have any teeth. Download your existing files and get your money back from them.
- AllDebrid or Premiumize are both popular alternatives. AD is considerably cheaper, even with Premiumize's Black Friday sale in right now. However, Premiumize allows multiple connections, so if you can split the cost with someone, it becomes the cheaper option.
  
  I would hold off on switching to AllDebrid for a bit, because they are also based in France and may be hit with a similar order.
  
  there is also torbox and debrid-link fr
Well, I was planning on looking into RealDebrid over my week off in winter, but I guess that's done now, damn.
- Here are some alternatives to look into: https://slrpnk.net/post/15456722
Is this gonna hurt arr stack?
- No
  
  Edit: why the down votes? It has absolutely no impact on the arr-stack, I just answered their question...
  
  I don't know, maybe people thought it was a lazy answer? People on Lemmy can be insanely unreasonable sometimes with how they vote content.
What is the USTR blacklist? how do we preserve this data before its lost?
- It looks like in terms of torrent sites
  
  1337x
  
  rutracker
  
  the pirate bay
  
  torrentgalaxy (replaced RARBG)
  
  yts
  
  Are all on the list. seems like torrentio is gonna be a big victim of this.
  
  More info here
  
  USTR blacklist
  
  https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/2023_Review_of_Notorious_Markets_for_Counterfeiting_and_Piracy_Notorious_Markets_List_final.pdf
  
  Anna's Archive, Libgen, etc are all on here. this is just 2023
  
  Apologies for being clueless but how does streamio/torrentio get affected by this?
  
  Damn.
I am so glad I didn’t renew my subscription in September sheesh
Fuck I just bought 6 months zzzz
- Same, lol
- As I've said in other comments you can easily get your money back, probably would be worth it since it's not like RD will be of much use once they start pulling cached files.
  
  Refund policy is if you used it at all they don't refund. So if you watched one stream that counts
Thankfully my subscription ends in a few weeks and didn't reup early.

Does anyone have any suggestions for Kodi? I've been using seren + rd for years, I got a month of all debrid since I can use it with seren, but it being based in France as well I'd rather switch.

I found POV which I can use with torbox. But I'm absolutely clueless as to what the popular, functional addons are nowadays.
I know I'm late to the parrrty here, but for dumm-dumms like me, anybody care to explain what the cause behind this was?

From what I can tell Real Debrid was based out of France... but what made them change their tune all of a sudden? Did the owners get threatened similar to what people think happened to the guy running rarbg?

Or did France just suddenly start enforcing copyrights or something? If so, then does that mean any other things non-debrid related that are based out of France are likely to run into issues too? Like, I know some open-source stuff also uses (used) France as a copyright-haven so that they could basically host patented media codecs in a separate repo (I think Fedora nd OpenSuse both have unofficial repos that do that). Wondering if that kinda thing would also be affected too or just the *debrid stuff?

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