Wobble Wobble
Wobble Wobble
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Honestly we are way past the point of any scientific reasoning. The public has voted that they are uninterested, and the US government and large corporations are about to be uninterested too.
To be blunt… No one ever really cared, but the world kinda squeaked by putting scientists in front of statesmen and public broadcasts. Everyone kinda nodded along, and not just for global warming.
That period is over.
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A few people cared, fewer did anything about it. Most were more concerned with mass production of cheap shit.
Got a heat pump to replace the gas boiler, bike instead of car and replaced the concrete paved garden with what will hopefully become a wildflower meadow with shrubs on the edges. You can actually just stop buying a lot of the stuff that is causing these problems.
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No one ever really cared
That's just not true. The problem is that the people who care were never the kind of people who'd come into power in our society.
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Dayum. Well said. Though some people cared. We, the few, and Al Gore, for example. The great majority, no. It does appear that period is over, I agree. Perhaps this is how it has been for the last 4-5 decades. Maybe this hope's death will be the last in our history.
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There could be more options to choose from if we enacted electoral reform and gave voters the freedom to vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect.
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We'd also need campaign finance reform (revoke Citizen's United for 1), get rid of insider trading, net neutrality, etc. which would all benefit each other and benefit from electoral reform
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Good luck convincing the rubes that. Literally heard jokes about "global warming" today in the office. Had to say, well its climate change actually and wild shit means its not doing good.
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Should have called it "climate instability" or "climate chaos" from the start.
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Easy money.
"It's cold as fuck because a monster bolus of hot air hit the arctic from the other side of the planet, sent a chunk of the polar vortex down here. Heat directly caused this. Did you have a problem with the word 'bolus', or perhaps understanding the Earth is spherical? Was 'spherical' too big a word? I can dumb this down if need be."
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Yeah except I myself didnt know that directly either. I just knew that, no, this is because of climate change not in spite of it.
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'It's not okay to be this stupid.'
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Speaking of which ~
5 Physics Equations Everyone Should Know
https://www.wired.com/story/5-physics-equations-everyone-should-know/
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Please don't get yourself fired!? Facts themselves are political these days:-(.
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Let them know that they changed the term to "climate change" so that stupid people would understand that the Earth getting hotter on average will make some places colder, because ice that used to be staying put, will now melt into water, which will flow into places where there wasn't water before.
That's about as dumbed down an explanation as is possible, I think, lol.
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Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
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It's not the rich call it what it is. Capital. When profits are impacted we will see change. This is why I continue to say no one is going to bat an eye when Florida gets swallowed by the ocean but when New York does? That's when we will have a collective eye opening.
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Capital
Poor word choice. It is more profitable to build renewables today. Oligarchist power to protect their existing assets, is not "rational capital allocation", but is what we get from power to corrupt capital allocation.
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[Cries in Angeleno]
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Elon thinks he'll make it mars with neuralink implant, Peter Thiel will run his fiefdom in new Zealand, the Orange God King will....
Xi Jin ping will continue doing communism with chinese characteristics and lean harder into Confucianism, the Europeans will return to fiefdom Feudalism
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I liked the image of the Titanic nosing down into the water, and deniers up on the stern end saying, "If we're "sinking" how come we/re up so high?"
Because science, bitch!
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Fun fact, when the jet stream gets perturbed like that and develops the sinusoidal deviations that we are experiencing, it's called a Rossby wave.
These waves are actually super normal as the jetstream shifts with the seasons and moves north/south, especially when in a La Niña phase of the ENSO, which we are in right now.
The Hadley circulation cells whose boundaries define the jet stream are driven by convection. The US lies right along a jetstream boundary between two cells, and just downwind from the pacific ocean, so our weather is particularly sensitive to the temperature differences across the pacific ocean.
El Niño patterns have a hot equatorial pacific ocean which drives significant convection on the southern cell of the jet stream crossing the US, stabilizing it. La Niña patterns have a smaller gradient between the temperatures in the cells to the north and south of the relevant jet stream, especially as climate change relatively warms the arctic faster, leading to higher amplitude destabilizations during La Niña patterns like we are experiencing now.
More fun facts about these Rossby waves: they have been proposed as the mechanism to drive the eddies that end up forming planets in protoplanetary disks around baby stars (see the wikipedia page for Rossby waves above), and as the mechanism behind the hexagonal shape of Saturn's polar cell. Worth noting that the exact mechanism for that hexagon is still highly debated, but Peter Gierasch used to have a fun model using a modified record turn table to create a rossby wave that formed a hexagon as a proof-of-concept that has stuck with me.
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That's science though, the people that don't believe it will not be convinced by smart people sharing their discoveries.
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I feel like you hit the nail on the head. It's not that they don't understand it. I don't understand most of this, but I can try
There are people out there who just don't believe and therefore will never try to understand
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my issue with posts like these is the ppl frequenting these sites already know this, its directed at the wrong audience
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Go instead with:
Humans helping the global warming demons is causing the polar ice cap gods to become weaker, who in turn are unable to contain the cold yin winds in the poles, causing them to move to your house.
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I'll distribute the leopards. If you're Republican or voted for the pile of shit, just see one of the leopards. Tell them to go back where they came from, they'll know what to do. They're trained, it only takes a second. Pretty painless during... I assume. Oh it's figurative speech? Never mind! I'll get the pumas back. It was pumas right? Ew, I think this one already ate a face. Sorry sorry...
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I guess the intent matters but that was kinda painful to read. I give 3 points for the intentions and effort but the execution gets 0.7 scores all across the board
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Wat?
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It's a riff on the leopards eating people's faces party joke/meme/satire/sarcasm that goes something like "I can't believe they ate our faces" says person who voted for the face eating leopards party. It basically means (in the original), you get what you vote for and shouldn't be surprised when it happens.
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From that picture it looks like the weak jet stream is the problem. We just need to build a ton of wind farms across Canada to blow it harder so that it becomes more powerful. Easy.
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If we want the wind farms to blow we'll have to power them using fossil fuels of course. It's the only solution.
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And the pollution isn't a problem, because the strong winds generated will dissipate it away.
Oh, and the entire system must be ai-based
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Yuuup. A few years ago, when the entire United States was experiencing record lows, the Earth had an above average overall temperature. Imagine how hot everywhere other than the United States must have been, if the average was still higher despite our record lows.
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Sounds too complicated to be true. Obvious explanation is Jewish Space Laser!
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Ha, you believe in space
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Palestinian*
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The graphic isn't all that accurate. The text says a colder period is because of a warmer planet but then the cold area from a meandering jet stream looks larger. The missing part is the warmer air that leaks into the polar areas, causing a feedback loop by further deteriorating the balance of cold and warm that drives the jet stream.
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You try drawing spherical stuff on a flat surface. Shits hard 🤣🤣
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this one might be more clear. still the same story though
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It's a bit prettier. What's missing (and I know this is meme territory so it's not a big deal) is how the jet stream is not just weak and wandering, but literally breaking in places and that's where warm air into the poles happens. And it's not hard to understand warmer where there's normally ice means less ice.
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Last time that much fresh water got dumped in the Atlantic ocean (when the glacier over north america melted) it resulted in an ice age over Europe... So... Good luck guys 👍
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Phew. Glad I'm not in Europe
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Western Europe in particular benefits from being warmer than its latitude would suggest due to Atlantic Ocean currents.
These currents are literally a coin toss away from breaking down, and it’s getting worse every year. Climate scientists are in unanimous agreement that the collapse is coming, and faster than a geologic timescale.
If (when) this happens, European countries will look more like Siberia than the Mediterranean.
Humanity is already dead. The time for drastic action was 30 years ago. We’re just talking corpses.
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Will it cool Australia? Its 45°C next week
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how dare you not let me enjoy the next few days of reasonable temperature in peaceful ignorance 😭
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I swear just a few years ago it was polar vortex this polar vortex that on the news everyday about the cold weather and I haven't heard it once this year.
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It's just nature's hernia
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B b but it was hot in the summertime or something
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Weird, we're experiencing the opposite in Europe.
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That's because the polar vortex slid off the Arctic onto North America, allowing warmer air to creep northward on your side of the globe. I remember in '21, while we had record cold in the southern US, Siberia was on fire.
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This. The meme is inaccurate in that the polar vortex is in fact currently unusually strong. It's just unusually shaped and oddly elongated. I hope the two following images show up correctly.
Strength of the polar vortex. Blue line is this winter:
source: http://weatheriscool.com/
Map showing the mean 500 hPa geopotential height and surface (2m) temperature anomalies for this week, as forecasted on Monday by ECMW:
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Will the increased snow cover at lower latitudes reduce warming? (I'm guessing probably yes, due to increased albedo. But, snow is also an insulator, and might be holding ground heat. I don't know which effect will be greater.)
If it does reduce warming, will the amount be significant relative to anthropogenic climate change? (I'm guessing probably not.)
And just out of curiosity, did the Southern Hemisphere experience similar polar disturbances last winter, or in the past few years?
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The problem here is that the snow will melt at some point. The reason this is happening is because the sea ice that existed year-round until now is nearly gone each summer. The lack of consistent ice covering means that there is a greater amount of energy being absorbed by the ocean, perhaps not year-round, but that it's happening so much more in the summer is sufficient to utterly outweigh any amount of temporary snowfall anywhere else on the globe.
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No. Well at least the first 2 weeks of the year are the warmest on record. A polar vortex just moves warmth elsewhere. It's fair that a few days of snow cover is increased albedo for a few days, but it's a drop in the bucket. A blanket of snow also keeps the ground warm.
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