(They're not allowed to legally anymore)
(They're not allowed to legally anymore)
(They're not allowed to legally anymore)
MMWR (Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report) has been put on hold, for the first time in it's 60 year history.
"On January 23, 2025, the CDC failed to release a new weekly issue of MMWR for the first time in the publication's over 60-year history. The failure was a direct result of the second Trump administration ordering an indefinite "pause" on public communications by all branches of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. "Preventing CDC from publishing scientific data via the MMWR represents a radical departure from protocol that will undermine the public's trust in the Trump Administration," Jennifer Nuzzo, who runs the Pandemic Center at Brown University, wrote.[25]"
But yeah, it's all cool. /s No IT'S NOT! I'm not sure how this can undermine public trust, if there wasn't any to begin with. It only confirms that disaster will be arriving soon. And the Fed isn't going to be much help. Work within your communities, mutual aid will be what keeps us afloat.
For example: https://mastodon.social/@Bellison22/113900490620796296 and: https://www.theskimm.com/news/reproductive-rights-gov
This is scary. Why would someone want to hide that specific information ahead of time? Also, that someone is a puppet of an enemy state and couldn't have mishandled the previous infectious disease outbreak any worse. And last time, he disbanded the federal epidemic team before COVID came out. This is like evil-villain level foreshadowing.
If you care about your health or your family's health, yall need to move to a blue state quickly and hunker down for the next 4 years. This madman is going to do everything he can to weaken and separate the union. We need to switch from progress to containment mode.
They want to outsource and privatize everything, lining their friends pockets and getting kickbacks. “Small government”, huge industrial complex contractor.
The whole "the cruelty is the point" thing is so foreign to me. It isn't difficult to cause hardship with clean intentions. To cause intentional pain broadly and blindly just doesn't make sense to me. And I can "devils advocate" and try to empathize fairly well (hard to know if that's true without acting like a creeper).
Global dominance?
Can someone explain the benefits that GOP are trying to achieve with this rule? Does the censoring somehow provide an advantage to their popularity?
I think it is part of making government agencies ineffective to prove their ideology that these agencies should be abolished and replaced with private companies (or not at all). That way, they can say come election time, "See? Government can't do these things well. We should eliminate these agencies." Many people will forget they are also the reason the agencies are shitty.
They have tried this with underfunding them in the past mostly. This is a much more direct approach.
At one point Trump literally suggested reducing reported Covid cases by just not testing. They genuinely think the important thing is not to talk about it.
Its how conservatism works.
If it makes you feel uncomfortable, sweep it under the rug and ignore it. Nothing is allowed to be bad or need fixing, nothing is allowed to change or be different, thats all scary.
Trumps first term was stymied by an extremely inconvenient global pandemic.
He doesn't want to be undermined by subject matter experts again
They're taking things out from Hungary's (and Russia's) playbook. Your voters cannot fault you for something they don't know about.
Voters usually have a pretty good idea of whats happening but it's part of a general malaise of misinformation.
Erm..no.
The order is only in effect until February 1.
I'd be curious about it if it was longer but a 1 week freeze is probably about reducing miscommunication during the gov transition.
Biden instituted a similar rule for 60 days:
Biden instituted the rule because he was taking over the administration from ignorant, conspiratorial hands. I highly doubt the same care is needed here. Please refrain from telling people to “calm their tits.”
The US CDC, one of the crown jewels of American science and democracy, world leader in it's field, savior to millions, ruined by a mobbed up failed casino owner and real estate developer from Queens
Ruined by Republican voters who would rather make sure the immigrants are punished than survive the next bird flu.
By racists who feel the need to push down their fellow man than save them.
I've already been assured by them that the bird flu doesn't exist.
I should note this is occurring in discussions about egg prices.
Kansas currently has an outbreak of drug resistant TB.
There’s also the possibility of pulling coverage of PREP/doxy/other medications designed to prevent STIs from insurance coverage. This would devastate the gay community, which is why they would do it.
I've been watching this really interesting older docuseries about an illegal alien who was adopted by a Kansan farmer. It really highlights the lengths the rich will go to when they feel justified in their own actions. Makes me wonder if this new TB strain isn't just the newest bio-weapon introduced by the state's leading plutocrat.
Times like this are why I'm glad I live in a blue state. Not that it will ship the problems, it even slow then down. The Orange Idiot is going after Chicago right now like he's got a vendetta, and diseases don't care about imaginary lines.
"If you can't see it then it isn't happening!"
That's the logic he applied to covid testing.
Wouldn't want to have to go shutting any business down, people can fall profits must never fall
Priorities!©®™
Can't have a crisis if we don't call it a crisis.
Special Health Exercise
Three days tops.
So are any CDC staff working on ways to get word out on threats outside of the officially-gagged channels?
I would rather they don't lose their jobs by doing so, but civil disobedience is absolutely called for here.
They want to outsource and privatize everything, lining their friends pockets and getting kickbacks. “Small government”, huge industrial complex contractor.
I would presume they can use their personal accounts. Or set up an alternate org outside of US jurisdiction.
The word of a pandemic would spread regardless of CDC. When Covid started there where rumors in Europe (Jan 2020) of people dropping dead on the streets in China. By February there where videos of tourists in China going around with masks because everybody else was. A word spreads faster than a virus.
Shit we already seeing it real time. Facebook recently banned anything related to Linux.
I was going to call bullshit but damn if you aren't right.
Zuck & Microsoft can eat my self hosted dongle.
Lolwut?
I deleted my Facebook some years ago, and so don't have the means to double check this. Is this for real?
Linux is all too woke for Fascistbook with the penguins, furries, and long socks.
We all going to be deported to Linus’ house for not using Microsoft spyware. All because some Chinese AI shook Zuck’s AI investors.
Ignorance Is Strength!
In a country where being asleep is seen as better than being woke, you get what you deserve.
What historic disease do y'all plan on catching in the new post-medicine era? Consumption looking hot this time of year!
My doctor's always bitching that I need to lose weight, so this could work. If not though I hear that antibiotic resistant flesh eating bacteria is a horrible way to die.
My doctor did too. Then I developed an eating disorder. Now they want me to gain weight. Make up your mind, doctors.
well, I hope we don't end up having a global lockdown again, but if we do, I'll be sure to call it the America Pox or Trump Flu or something polemic
There won't be lock downs in the US this time.
Just corpses littering the street, and chants of "fake news"
Pox Americana
This seems like a good thread to ask someone to find/make a RSS feed of WHO Disease Outbreak News. https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news
For starters I'd recommend FreshRSS to selfhost your RSS feeds https://github.com/FreshRSS/FreshRSS
And for the creation of one I'd recommend looking into RSS-Bridge https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge?tab=readme-ov-file
RSS-Bridge lets you make RSS feeds for sites that don't have one.
Woah hadn't ever thought about selfhosting RSS, thanks
Thank you! I'm content to use Nextcloud News for my feed aggregate, but that bridge seems super helpful for various purposes.
The order is only in effect until February 1. I'd be curious about it if it was longer but a 1 week freeze is probably about reducing miscommunication during the gov transition.
Biden instituted a similar rule for 60 days:
Literally, calm your tits
Stopping new rules and stopping basic alerting are very different. I can see an administration wanting to review new rules. But stopping normal communication is extreme.
I'd appreciate if you could copy my response to all the places you posted your same comment. It'd save me a lot of effort.
*American federal health agencies.
It's like they think the entire world lives under their mandate
Oh man I don't remember the last time I watched the matrix. And now I know what I'm doing tonight.
Watching the cave rave over and over with no pants on
Don't know how much it's going to count for when the h5n1 pandemic hits, but it's probably going to be easier to get a flu vaccine now than any time moving forward, so probably wanna take care of that sooner than too late.
You probably already know this but for clarity it sounds like the flu shot won't protect you from h5n1
Package may contain up to 52 bug parts and or swine flu.
Easy!
Is there a non profit that can take over? Or a state(s) agency that can help out?
Just because the federal government decides they don't want to do a thing doesn't mean states can't do it (or heck local community).
This is true, but it's worth recognizing that a lot of the states, nonprofits, and local agencies rely on government studies and reports to make their own assessments.
With the government staying silent, it's going to be more difficult to get a sense of what's happening and what to do as a result. Not impossible, but the infrastructure isn't necessarily in place, because nobody prepared for the federal government to be this adversarial to public health and safety.
I'm sure someone can lawyer up a way to skirt the crybaby's command. Say they didn't 'publish a communication' but rather that 'data was made available through existing public and partnership channels'.
Except oh publishing anything right now is prohibited. They can't even release the data.
States and newspapers need to FOIA the data now.
California would likely be all over it. As much as I don't care for Newsom, he really doesn't like Trump, so I call that a win.
Smith was intelligent though
Any advice on the best place to get truthful information in English that's outside the US's jurisdiction?
Trumpoxflu 25
It's up to individuals talking and posting about who's trustworthy.
Even before this, The People's CDC was doing better work than the regular CDC on covid. This and other stuff like it is what will guide us.
Funding is still an issue, but trust is something we maintain ourselves by individuals paying attention and speaking honestly.
I don't understand this perspective at all.
The CDC did what they could with the information they had at the time. Yes, the pandemic was bad, but it was a pandemic. No shit it was bad. Could the CDC have handled it better? Sure. But could you imagine how much worse it would have been without it?
I don't want to listen to some uneducated, non-accredited assholes on the internet telling me to eat horse dewormer, thanks. I'll take the scientists who studied and are experienced in disease and pathology.
To add to other responses… What did the people's CDC do better than the CDC?
Trump 2 ≠ Covid 2
Because nobody get informed.
Not necessarily, but if another public health crisis happens, the government has crippled our built in responses.
I doubt the current bird flu problem will jump to humans en masse but it’s a dangerous one out there right now.
We have no reason to believe that if there's a crisis to deal with, that he'll do so