Privacy meme
Privacy meme
cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/24574658
was checking my old favourite posts and found this.
Privacy meme
cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/24574658
was checking my old favourite posts and found this.
“Has hundreds of private messaging applications that their friends won’t use” Stop, the wound is still fresh.
This chart doesn't represent me lol
Favorite OS: "everything sucks" Favorite browser: "everything sucks" Favorite Apps: mpv and rtorrent (I pirate a lot of media)
Hey now, I've been paranoid for years. Don't call me a newborn.
[Realisation]
... I would go full paranoid but Its over my skill level. Also I'm quite happy now that the transition to more private things process is mostly over.
Why would you root Lineage OS? You are putting a hole in your security.
I also do that because it lets me
Graphene os for security, lineage os is for debloated aosp experience, root is for things like wifite2 on smartphone, cheat engine like apps on smartphone, deep control of your smartphone and etc
e.g. for better charging control, to allow f-droid to update apps automatically
did everything but not rooted phone i just debloated my phone currently i don't use arch btw but it was great but skill issue kills me so i'm here with lmde
This is fairly dated.
Don't use Telegram or Jami. Also Xorg is dead.
Wait, why not Jami?
No independent audit is a bad sign. It also is unstable with a giant code base.
According to the threads I found privacy guides:
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/add-jami/20052
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/why-is-jami-not-listed-in-pg/12500
Also Luke Smith hasn't uploaded in years now
I'm a bit of 2,3 and 4.
Seems like I'm a newborn paranoid. Favorite os = arch Favorite browser = librewolf Favorite apps = f-droid
I disable cookies on virtually all websites. And I do fear the slippery slope sometimes.
FYI, there are uBlock filters to block most cookie popups - you just have to enable them. From memory, I think they are called annoyances
I feel like I'm kinda somewhere in between tech conservative and paranoid. I am privacy conscious but I don't engage in privacy related content too often. I use Arch, Manjaro, /e/OS on a fairphone with mostly foss apps and decline most cookies I can. I also like self hosted things just because the corporate SaaS stuff sucks over time with artificial restrictions and has no privacy
At some point I just need to jump off the ship and live full time Linux. I remember my Linux friend from high school telling me how cool gentoo was back in 2k3, and I got a disk and was like wtf… what do I do??? I need to try it again.
yeah but if you want actual security you use Qubes
and for the love of Torvalds don't use Tails as a daily driver, it's not for that
also have you seen Stallman's other video?
Wow, Qubes seems pretty badass! Do you run it? How heavy is it? (Like, how beefy a PC do ya need for decent performance?) How intuitive do you find the experience, from your perspective? 🙂
I have run it on a laptop in the past, and I think it's a good option for a mobile system that you may be using on public/unsafe wifi and/or if your laptop is your primary computer and is actively carrying sensitive data (e.g. PII, financial records, health records, etc) that you want to keep in a separate environment from normal activities (though my advice would still be to keep such data on an external drive that is normally unplugged). It's not a good choice if you want to use that system for gaming - the hardware driver abstraction and segregation causes problems.
I don't really have a use case for it at the moment so I don't have any systems running it. It's OK for general use if you're not doing anything particularly complicated. Document editing, web browsing, code development - no problem. I wouldn't recommend it if you're doing CAD/3D modeling, graphics, audio/video editing, &etc - it's not really a good platform for doing creative work, too many complications.
The base system is not particularly heavy, though obviously the more VMs you run concurrently the more resources you'll need. It does require specific virtualization features for the CPU (documented in Choosing Hardware), which are not always available especially on laptop processors. My laptop had a mobile version of AMD Ryzen which worked. That was a 13" lightweight laptop, nothing too beefy, and it ran Qubes with a couple Debian VMs just fine.
Once you understand the basics of using dom0 to control the other VMs (and that you don't ever use dom0 for anything besides configuring and launching the other VMs) it's fairly straightforward. You do have to get used to virtually unplugging any USB devices from one VM and then plugging them into another (no bridging VMs via USB, that would break data security) but it makes sense if you think of those VMs as separate computers.
I think it's great if you're traveling a lot with a personal laptop and you won't have control over the networks you connect to, because you can basically seal off any sensitive data from any external/untrusted connections in completely separate virtual environments. You can have VMs which just don't ever have network access and so are "air gapped" by virtue of not even having network drivers installed, and then just manually transfer specific pieces of data as needed.
Not sure where I fall into this chart =)
Favorite OS: OpenSuse Tumbleweed
Favorite browser: Librewolf
Favorite Apps: Vim/Neovim (not even close to anything else)
Not sure where I fall into this chart.
I can tell you. You're in the shit distro+shit browser part of the chart. Terrible choices. Not like my distribution which is so good. With a very good browser.
No I haven't read what your distro is. Nor your browser. Irrelevant.
My distro? You wouldn't know it. Very niche. But very good. Maybe the same as yours, but not the shit one. The good one.
Am I a moron? Sure. A moron with a good distro. (It's ubuntu+chrome, if you know it)
cool 👍
I would say somewhere between paranod newborness and tech conservatism 🤔
I live on the right side of the second box, between second and third. I venture into the fourth maybe once or twice a year. It is a good life.
yeah me to
Suspicious lack of Qubes. Who do you work for??? the CIA? China? The Rwandan National Intelligence and Security Agency?
Honestly Qubes is over rated.
Just use virtual manager with VMs.
If all you want to do is run VMs, Qubes is not what you are looking for. Even virtual machine manager (and other abstractions over libvirt and KVM) need to be hardened to avoid compromising the host.
Example: By default virt-manager uses a NAT bridge to allow for the guest VM to access the host and the LAN. A couple of weeks ago vulnerability was found in CUPS print server, allowing a hacker to do RCE. If a guest VM was compromised (previously or because of the vulnerability), since the host also likely has CUPS the hacker could use the guest system to compromise the host. This is avoided on Qubes because the host has minimal software.
Virt-manager offers no where near the same Security as Qubes. Qubes has a security hardened host and strong Desktop security model. Everything runs in VMs (aka qubes) including different parts of the system to further improve isolation. Sure, you could replace Qubes OS with an off the shelf Linux distro and run VMs, but that is nothing like Qubes, offers none of the convenience, and isn't hardened or debloated (reducing host attack surface).
No Linux distro comes close. Qubes is designed for a specific job. I am not saying Qubes is the "best OS ever" when I say Linux distros dont come close, I specifically mean that no Linux distro is designed with as strong of a focus on Desktop security model and isolation-based workflow.
No idea where I fall and at different times all over. Use Firefox, fedora now, devian on server. Run selfhosted for most stuff. Just debloated stock Android removed most of Google's stuff. Have used Graphene but it's missing tracker tracking.
devian on server.
Debian or Devuan?
yeah we are are similler i use librewolf a fork , used fedora but it's redhat and they are hated for what happend a year ago so i use linuxmint debian edition i used a lot of distros even stock arch but i didn't settle also i'm now staring the self hosting thingy i used docker last week and still trying to discover new things if you have anytips or sites or projects i can check out that wouldbe helpful also i debloated my phone removed most shit i don't used keeped only g maps
So i'm a conservative just a bit paranoid, gotcha 👌.
This. Is. Epic.
Mmmh don't think that an FSF Member prefers WebM for it is made and maintained by Google the thoroughbred of sin.
That's w3m, an Emacs web browser, not webm the WebM file format.
No No I don't mean the icons but the Blocktext points along OGG and ODT.
Excellent Dr. Horrible reference.
You've got it, Buddy :)
I feel so called out, even though I'm the second box and I currently use tumbleweed.
gnu ring, thats a logo i didn't see in a long time
what's the one next to it?
i dont know tbh
Lmao nice
What a ride!
I'd say I'm tech conservative/cynic with a bit of normie - as I've long accepted that forgoing big tech completely means losing the ability to talk to most of my friends and relatives (because there's zilch chance of me convincing them to move away)
I am a newborn paranoid who "watch Luke Smith" and think "Richard Stallman was right".
Ew 🤢
Newborn paranoid is actually me 💀
I'm less familiar with the icons starting at around section 4 onwards.
Could anyone share / link what some of them are?
I think that the arch-based distro is Xerolinux
Thank you for the detailed breakdown! Lots of new ones on there for me
after that arch and its distros lastlsy temple os and holy c you can search about them
I see, thank you!
after that emacs and fsf things
The FSF-approved distributions that are shown are: Trisquel, Parabola and GNU Guix (this one is actually quite neat, it's based on NixOS with its own ideas like the importance of being able to bootstrap an entire system from a minimal binary seed)
The browser with logo shown is GNU IceCat, with binary blobs removed and with some extra security and privacy features (among them an addon that prevents the browser from running proprietary javascript)
lynx is a simple TUI web browser and w3m also is a similar browser but running in GNU Emacs
The last three are all the GNU Emacs logo.
tails gentoo tor irc chat with self hosting 4
Between IRC and the picture representing the idea of self-hosting, there's the XMPP logo, which like IRC, is an instant messaging protocol (but with more features than IRC).
Not sure what I fall under 😅 I want privacy and will pay for it, but I won't go all the way to a pure GNU OS where only certain open-source is allowed. IMO buying a new Pixel phone for GrapheneOS is still contributing to Google and does more harm than good.
What's the first browser under newborn paranoid?
Qute browser