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Democrats sound alarm over ‘extremist’ Project 2025 architect tapped to lead Trump’s budget office – live

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During their protest of Russell Vought’s confirmation, Senate Democrats sounded the alarm about Vought’s role in drafting Project 2025 and his support for vastly expanding the power of the president.

Vought, said Wisconsin senator Tammy Baldwin at 10:30 pm eastern time on Wednesday, “has openly called for the president to defy congress and take control of federal funding decisions that are constitutionally vested in the legislative branch.”

Schiff accused the Trump administration of unlawfully attempting to break down the separation of powers and said Vought would play a role in aiding that effort.

“This is an effort to try to consolidate power, all the power of this government, in the hands of Donald Trump and a few of his hand-picked very wealthy, billionaire friends,” said California Democrat Adam Schiff.

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The alarms been going off since fucking November when he won the election and y'all haven't done a god damn thing except bend over and take it like a bunch of cowards.
- Since November?
  ...try 2014.
  I spent ten years trying to point out this stuff, ever since the alt-right first emerged and tried to popularize the term "Cultural Marxism".
  Had to counter that one by becoming a Wikipedian, and that sucked.
  Since November? Nope. Your alarm is broke, mine went off way too early.
  
  Obama promising a leftie-style government, then continuing to implement neoliberalism was my alarm that fascism was coming. This is also when I started getting into politics. Had I been both alive and into politics in the 1980s, I probably would have said Reagan was the alarm, and I would've agreed with that today, since he was largely responsible for introducing neoliberalism in the US.
  Neoliberalism was our late stage capitalism, which was always destined to fail. Now we're past that and now running into fascism, which was defined by the founder of fascism (Mussolini) as the merging or corporations and governments, which is what we're seeing now.
  From former president FDR: "The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power."
- What choice do we have? Leftists stayed home during the election because of gEnOcIdE. So now democrats don’t have enough elected officials to do anything. Thanks leftists!
  
  You say leftists stayed home because genocide, but look...
  I am firmly on the left. Most of the people I choose to associate with are as well. All of us went to marches for Palestine when it was possible for us. We did what we could and...
  All of us voted for Kamala Harris. We participated in electoral politics because we heard what people like you were saying about broad outcomes. I know it's not the same everywhere, but most leftist spaces that are very critical of the Democrats that I frequent shared this sentiment.
  I know it's anecdotal, and other leftists can dunk on us for it, whatever, I don't care.
  But I'm tired of seeing threads with comment after comment being specifically about blaming the left abstainers. It's fucking over! The election is over and pointing fingers blaming people isn't helping anyone. You want to feel good for being right? I know you're angry, I get it, but what is your point? You just want people to feel bad? Okay, they feel bad. The situation is shit and getting worse by the day. How is this building a unified resistance? How is this helping anyone but yourself?
  
  Being defeatist speeds up the defeat.
  
  Did you just Spongebobcase the word genocide
We know. Stop sounding alarms and do something. It's your jobs and why we elected you. Get off your asses senate democrats.
- Remember when, in south Korea, the president tried to do this and their representatives scaled a fucking wall at 1 am to veto the marial law? Then, they impeached and arrested him?
  It must be nice to have representatives that go that hard for their constituents.
  
  Only people supporting Trump will go that far.
- What should they do?
  
  Challenge consolidation of power, write bills to block it from happening, start impeachment processes, organize protests, be active in community and media, coordinate with states, public service messages, etc.
  The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
  Democrats were caught with pants down. Yeah, it sucks, but it's time to put the hot dogs away and get back to work.
  
  File some fucking lawsuits
  
  Use every procedural tool in the box to gum up the works. Demand full debate on every motion. Demand full roll call votes on every vote. Democrats respecting norms and Republicans exploiting them is what got us here, so it's time to turn that around on them. There should be no weird, underhanded, but technically permitted delay tactic that Democrats aren't using until they get enough popular support behind them to actually do something meaningful.
- Too many leftists stayed home during the election. Now democrats don’t have enough elected officials to do anything. But you probably knew that.
  
  Bullshit. The Republicans managed to obstruct even with a minority. Senate Democrats have no excuse for continuing to play along in good faith.
  At least fucking filibuster everything, damn it!
  
  Remember Obama's presidency? They can at least be as disruptive as the Republicans were for that.
  
  I do, but outnumbered doesn't mean give up.
It is almost like project 2025 is something the Orange turd knew about and was his plan.
- But he said he never heard of it!!!
  
  And he would never lie about something like that!
Donald "I dont know anything about Project 2025" Trump strikes again.
"Democrats sound alarms"
"Democrats protest"
"Democrats come out and say mean things about Trump and Musk"
I mean I like that they aren't silent about it, but if I get the chance to attend one of these events, I want to truly ask them "So what are we actually doing about it?" Because, so far nothing that has been tried seems to even phase these turds and the Democrats still use the same platforms owned by these silicon valley bastards (ie. Twitter, Google, etc.)
If they truly want to hit them where it can hurt them, then they should plan a way to use their voices and positions of influence to guide the rest of America in abandoning all of these platforms and boycotting their businesses, and while this on itself might not be the silver bullet, it will be a start.
Another thing, stop investing in stock market, commodities exchange, and crypto.
They sound the alarm NOW? I knew about project 2025 like a year ago!
And nobody's actually doing something to stop this
Every day I read that alarms are being sounded, people are screaming "DO SOMETHING" yet bovidy really seems to be doing anything.
- Do what? The only option at this point is sedition and violence, but I can't even imagine what that looks like.
Alarm is about ten steps too late.
People were sounding alarms long before the clueless democrats were, but democrats insisted on "reaching across the aisle" for decades, including in the most recent election where they reached right into dick cheney's pants. Democrats want to appear like they're doing something and that they'd absolutely totally would do something if they'd just win the election, and yet they never actually do anything to stop the decline (or, more importantly, reverse the decline) even when they do win.
Has Hakeem Jeffries been taken hostage somewhere?
- He’s presently being held in a donor’s basement somewhere, being forced to eat cake and drink Chardonnay.

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