hexbear.net is on sale for auction
Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net
Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure
Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531
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They'll probably stay in chapo.chat, and instance owners will update their blocked lists. A few users lost because they can't be arsed to re-register, instead using .ml. But, past that, not much is going to change, I think.
I'm mildly curious on what's going to happen with their older domain - or, what the winning bidder will make out of it. (Document bad online behaviour? Make it about NATO to rub salt on their wounds? What else?)
Except they already said that the same issue will occur with the backup name as well. Unless the additional time allows the original owner to finally reregister it this time, as they (reportedly) claimed to be ready to do for the main one as well. I think they don't trust them anymore:-).
So everyone might move, then have to move again a second time. Not joking btw!:-)
Is it weird that I feel bad for them? Whoever is to blame, a lot of the users are innocent of this. And are also trolls, true, but even so... It would be nice if some people would learn from this that online trolling is one thing, but eventually it's even better to wake up and live in the real world. I want that for them.
I think that the additional time will be enough to let them contact the original owner. But dunno, there might be some drama involved, IIRC not even the original devs want much to do with HB.
And even if they move twice, the userbase seems close-knit enough to follow without too many losses.
Is it weird that I feel bad for them?
I don't think it is. The main problem there seems to be users going rogue outside their home instance; I remember HB had some rule like "respect rules of the other instances you interact with", but it was toilet paper. However plenty of the other users are completely OK.
Another issue is that there is some red scare against them. And even if they use it to shield themselves from actual criticism in a really dumb way, the red scare is still there.
They openly idolize Stalin. That's not from a couple rogue users
The guy who spent his youth robbing banks to fund a revolution, succeeded, went on to beat the nazis, and helped lay the foundation for the greatest increase in standards of living in the modern age outside of China?
Even if you accept legitimate criticisms about the guy, such as interning/relocating populations in the wake of WWII, various loses the CPC took due to following his mandates, his failure to support Korea, etc, and understand him as a part of a greater machine accomplishing these things rather than the idealist "great man theory" nonsense that encourages hero worship in the first place, it's hard not to idealize revolutionary heros like him and Fidel.
Holy shit
I'm not a fan of Hitler or anything
I just really really hate the guy who beat him
Stalin was a fine with Hitler. Helped Hitler invade Poland. Killing some of my family. Then massacring ethnic polish at home, killing more family. Stalin only turned against Hitler after Hitler crossed him. That the Soviet Union helped defeat Hitler was fine. But doesn't excuse allying with him first. Or the Soviet genocides and oppression.
Deep down I want to know if you're lying deliberately because you're a nazi or if you're just a particularly stupid person.
Hitler had a book. In it he said what he wanted to do. The leadership of the Soviet Union read this book. They did not think they were friends with Hitler.
How does that disprove what I said. It doesn't. How does that bring back any dead family? It can't. I'm an anarchist fuck authoritarians whether they're capitalist or pretend socialist.
They did contact the original owner - who promised (reputedly) to take care of it. Then disappeared (yet again, after repeatedly having done so in the past so many times before). It's even possible that they did this out of some kind of spite? But perhaps not, maybe it's merely irresponsibility, and even that due to ADHD or some such, who knows (I did not read through every comment, just enough to know this much).
It is not merely users going rouge (edit: no you know what, fuck it, I'm leaving this spelling exactly as it is, bc it's 2025 baby! and this apparently is how we roll now) there are posts (not merely moderator reports, which don't federate particularly with their older software) where they are made aware, and the admins chose to ignore the situation each time rather than ban the person involved. They actively shielded them from consequences, rather than merely allowing them to do whatever. Thus necessitating others to take steps of their own to deal with matters.
Seeing how "responsible" they are, nobody believes the red scare issue - especially people who are ACTUALLY leftist as opposed to whatever fucked up thing tankies are to begin with, and then like that squared (three times over) and possibly reversed and shifted further into the imaginary dimension, to describe whatever the heck Hexbear has going on specifically. Regardless of political views. imho at least, ofc:-).
They did contact the original owner - who promised (reputedly) to take care of it.
That's important info.
Perhaps the original owner is so disengaged already that they aren't giving too much of a fuck about the fate of the instance. I can't exactly blame them.
It is not merely users going rouge (edit: no you know what, fuck it, I’m leaving this spelling exactly as it is, bc it’s 2025 baby! and this apparently is how we roll now)
Stop making me remember a certain movie! Okay, the movie is great, so keep reminding me of it. (Moulin Rouge. Their version of Roxanne is way better than The Police's original. Kind of like Concrete Blonde's Everybody Knows vs. Cohen's)
But I digress. Yes, the users were going rouge :-P under the implicit approval of the instance admins; that's why I say that the rule there against misbehaving in other instances was "toilet paper", it's just there to get shit.
Seeing how “responsible” they are, nobody believes the red scare issue
Yup. It's like the boy who cried wolf, isn't it?
Anyway, I hope that the good ones still stick around. And even the bad ones should get a place... just away from my sight. (Perhaps in truth social, showing their "critical support" to Trump. Hehe.)
re-register
Why do you think their old accounts won't work? It's just a different domain name. They didn't lose data.
Has chapo chat been federated with us this entire time? I'm just trying to understand what it actually is.
It was the original website people from /r/chapotraphouse migrated to when it was banned on reddit but then everyone decided they didn't even really like the podcast and made a new thing
I get that but do we need to defederate from them or not? It seems like they don't have federation enabled or something.
sh.itjust.works
yeah better defederate just to make sure
sigh
That's a funny way of saying you have no clue what chapo.chat actually is. Hexbear is the epitome of the blind leading the blind.
I could never have imagined that certain leftists were equally as stupid and ignorantly abrasive as MAGA trumpers, but you clowns have proven it beyond all doubt. It's so profoundly concerning and disappointing 😑
Why can't you just act like a mature adult and answer a simple question? Why must you incessantly seek to spread divisiveness and misery?
No it's a funny way of saying your instance sucks
Who is spreading divisiveness? You are explicitly asking if you need to take additional steps to divide yourself from elsewhere.
Not to distract attention from your frankly obsessive and weird hate rant
I'm asking if chapo.chat is part of Lemmy or not. Do they federate with other servers, or is it isolated? Just answer the damn question.
I explicitly federated sh.itjust.works with hexbear, at the request of your fearless leader u/CARCOSA, and I took a whole bunch of shit from all sides for that decision. Then you defederated us within 24 hours, because you couldn't handle losing arguments with our users. I have always tried to be reasonable with you people but it counts for nothing, because you just attack and abuse everyone you come into contact with, and you actively refuse to confront reality.
Thanks for trying to stay federated with the ‘bear - I appreciate hearing all voices, regardless of my own personal views.
I mean look at how you're acting right now over a tiny little jape. Even if you can't stand being rejected from the cool kids' table, can you at least understand why?
Making a mockery of socialism isn't cool. People are dying out here and you guys are actively propping up capitalism with your edgy teenage antics. Do better.
Don't worry, hexbear/whatever is going to be called will almost certainly block sh.itjust.works along with other right-wing instances when it enables federation again
Cheers, we already blocked chapo.chat pre-emptively. Glad that we're on the same page.
