I want to open this jar of pickles

Announce a Lower Decks 6th season and I'll throw a parade.
- They aren't lower decks anymore. Maybe a Upper Decks series?
  
  Yes, that too.
  
  I'm still holding out hope that that the long play. The trouble is the studio haven't exactly shown themselves to be smart when it comes to Star Trek lately.
- I can at least hope Tawny Newsome's comedy will go well.

When Bortus and Klyden ran in the woods nakie in front of their loved ones, as is tradition. 🧑‍🍳🤌
- Arthur's knights. When there was much rejoicing.

We watched the first 15 minutes of Section 31 waiting for it to get good, and it never did so we gave up on it. It only struck me later what bothered me so much about what we saw.
Prior to this movie, who did we know in Section 31:
Reed
Fiercely loyal, by the the book, clever
Bashir
CRAAAAZZY smart, caring, scientifically minded, big thinker strategist
William Boimler
High achiever, rapidly upwardly mobile getting a crew position on the Titan before joining Section 31 and given his own command closing rifts in the multiverse.
Khan Noonien Singh
Brilliant human augment, hyper intelligent, calculating
All of these were top tier thinkers. They had loyalty to the Federation and were willing to do what they thought best to secure the Federations future even if it meant getting dirty so others could stay clean. Nothing I saw in the first 15 minutes of the Section 31 movie had any characters like these. We got the worst "bad of misfits" style buddy-action characters. I hated all 15 minutes that I watched of the Section 31 movie.
- Indeed. Section 31 doesn't need disposable fodder. they are an agency full of 007 types, not 'suicide squad in space.'
- I had wished for an appearance by not dead Trip Tucker.
  
  They just show Tucker's corpse in a drawer.
- I wouldn't consider jj-Kahn to have any loyalties or concerns for the Federation. He was self-serving and only cared about his other augments.
  
  I think he believed himself and the other augments were the true representation of humanity. He was loyal to the idea of humanity's continued existence to the better. He just had a really twisted definition of "better". Still, I would have been more okay with JJ Kahn to be in Section 31 than what was introduced in the Section 31 movie.

What????? This is the news I needed.

Well this has made my day exponentially better! I had kinda given up hope in more Orville but if they're gonna keep making it I'm fine for a little break in between, gives me time to re-watch star trek a few times.

I fuckin loved Orville, has anyone seen Starfleet Academy yet? I really like Strange, nothing else so far.
- Academy is in post production w/o an official release date.
  
  Shut up Morne

- Edit: to include 1/3 of Picard
- Only watch Picard season three. Skip the first two seasons. Also, lower decks is pretty great. Strange new worlds… Your mileage may vary on that. Avoid discovery.
  
  Finally someone who agrees with me! Season 3 was what season 1 should have been.
- i guess it depends on what you consider to be the good stuff to begin with. SNW is essentially more TOS and TNG which makes it a pretty safe bet. Lower Decks is great but it's very different, being a comedy first and foremost. if you want to play it safe i would avoid Discovery and Picard, and that's coming from one of the ten people who liked parts of both of them
- It depends. Prodigy, Lower Decks, and Strange New Worlds are all great (the former two take a moment to get into their element, though).
  Probably watch 10 episodes of Prodigy before making your verdict, and probably through the first few episodes of season 2 for Lower Decks.
  For Discovery, I've found it make many mistakes, but also been, it's been fun at times. I've only watched through part of season 4.
- I liked Discovery, but you can't background-watch it. If you stop paying attention for 5 minutes you'll lose track of what's going on. It's very JJ-trek.

Orville is what got me into star trek

Why Orville when it's so anti star Trek. Sexism racism etc. why?
- Anti-Trek? Whaaaat? It's basically TOS/TNG but with Family Guy toilet humor and cursing. 🤨 I didn't have much hopes for it when it first started, but it actually feels more like classic Trek than shit like Discovery.
  
  It feels like what I imagine the galaxy quest show would have felt like.
  
  First three eps are a bit dodge (and apparently aimed at The Studio to get them to leave them alone) but then they drop if the stars, then Pria, then Krill and holy shit it just levelled up stratospherically and kept going.
- The whole show was made in reverence to TOS and the "golden era" of Trek. It's a bit goofier, but the show as it went on tackled several tough social topics that would make Berman squirm.
  
  Oh yes the episodes where the most manliest crew member is hermaphrodite and has partner drama with someone that looks as manly as them are hilarious
- Citation needed.
- Somehow people don't see it.
  But I mean, some people like Enterprise , section 31 or Picard that contain the worst morals ever shown in a Star Trek show so people are not going to see the problem with the orville.