Burger Rule

how does minimum wage only double when products go 16x? jesus the education system really is shit in the US. there would be constant riots in the streets if only people knew arithmetic
- I believe the common strawman is "if min wage goes up, prices go up" which..... You know just admits the system is there to abuse. "If you make more money then we'll take more money from you".
  
  the idea is that wages are part of expenses which contribute to prices, which is why you need more regulation about this sort of thing. the best part is that when the min wage doesn't go up, the prices still go up.
- Inflation is purposely misexplained as something specific to a time period. So people aren't aware that it's a measure of velocity, how fast prices are rising. Our political system also gives the illusion of a reset every four years.
- There's a LOT of people that don't understand inflation at all. They think something along the lines of, "I worked myself through college making $5/hr and it was hard and I didn't get to buy all the things I wanted but it was fine. These lazy entitled people want several times that much for the same work?!"
  So it's not just basic math but basic economics and a basic understanding of reality that are sorely lacking.
  
  There’s a LOT of people that don’t understand inflation at all.
  Why don't we just tariff inflation so China has to pay it? This seems bigly smart.
- Because minimum wage is defined by laws and has been purposefully kept below inflation. It hasn't substantially increased (or maybe not at all) in my lifetime.
- Look at how much corporate profits have gone up though
- They obfuscate the data from people and they don't try to find it. Obviously they know that 16 is bigger than 2..

NO BURGER????
For real though, can't even buy a 20 piece nugget anymore on an hour's work, shit's fucked

The last time this showed up people pointed out that big Mac’s cost more like $1.50 in 1980. Still multiple BMs per hour but not as drastic.
- multiple BMs per hour
  This sounds drastic no matter what the number is.
  I'm sorry, I had to.
  
  Plausible with that many big macs, though.
- I wasn't alive then but 50 cents seemed low for a big mac, even for the '80s
- And a Big Mac isn't $8 around here and no one is paid federal min wage. It's $13 in Florida and $15 IRL. Using the app to save, it's probably 2.5 burgers.
  
  Big Mac is 5.19 in the app for me.
  And I don’t know if this is a good indicator of actual minimum wage, but fast food salary on average is way more than $13 an hour. Funny that Florida is right at the bottom of that list. You’d be better off in West Virginia (brand new sentence).
  https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/What-Is-the-Average-FAST-FOOD-Worker-Salary-by-State

I have a feeling that the burgers were way less shitty in the 60's, but were they as big? Theres a myth here that every normal US meal is enough food to feed someone for several days, so I wonder if size has been factored in?
- Also a big Mac costs £6.09 in england, minimum wage soon will be £12.21 = 2 big macs per hour of your labour.
  I will mention that they have an app which can make it a lot cheaper and gives freebies and so on.
- Burgers used to be smaller. A quarter pounder was a big burger.

In Germany the minimum wage is 12.82€/hour. The price for a Big Mac is 4.19€
BM/Hour: 3,07
- In Germany, they call a Big Mac a Doppelrindfleischkäsebrötchen mit Spezialsoße
  
  No
- Where do you get a 4,19€ Big Mac? From what I can tell, a Big Mac here is currently 6,29€, which would place the BM/hour score at 2.04.
  If you exclude sales tax (which is usually included in Germany but excluded in the US) for a fairer comparison, the Big Mac would be 5,29€ and the BM/hour score 2.42.
  But also, a single Big Mac in the US seems to cost around $5.99. The $8 is for a Menu (which would put the BM/h score at 1.24 instead of 0.91).
  A BM Menu in Germany is currently 11,49€ (or 9,66€ without sales tax), which would put our BM/h score at 1.11 (or 1.33 respectively).
  So, the chart oop posted might be a bit misleading, since I doubt the $0.50 in 1980 was a Big Mac menu but rather a single Big Mac (although I‘m to lazy to look that up now). And also, we’re not that substantially better off in here Germany rn and a single Big Mac seems to be a comparatively better value than a menu, when compared to the US.
  I’d also find comparison numbers from Germany in 1980 quite interesting but I’m also too lazy to look that up. Maybe someone else is bored enough…
  
  I actually dont have a clue about McDonalds prices since i never eat there.
  Ive just googled the big mac prices, may i got a wrong result.

BMs per hour
"I just can't stop pooping!"
- A big mac is sure to give you multiple BM's per hour

- I like that it implies landlords aren't people
  
  Implying well known facts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index
Big macs are actually used as a real economic index
- And it's been used enough that Argentina artificially set the price of Big Macs for a few years to hide their rampant inflation.

Heh, look at this dumb sattire. There's no way it would take simplifying the economy down to a single food item before our superior American intellect realized that our government was actually our enemy. Anyway...
Trump take egg
/s
- The BigMac Index was actually a really good metric. It's sold nearly everywhere in the world, was a low margin product, and depends on a complex global supply chain that's a good stand-in for other supply chains. It was used as a way to cut-through governments reporting innacurate numbers.

I still think it is wild that we don't include house prices in inflation, cause it was removed to use rent to match the "average American experience" which just means they no longer expect average people to ever buy a house.
So no houses and no burgers.

BMs per hour means something else in this house
- If you're having 6.20 BMs per hour, God help you.
  
  IBS: "Hold my beer."
  
  It's an aggregate statistic.

These big mac prices aren't accurate

Oh no, here's where you are wrong. See, it's a decline for the proletariat only. The bourgeoisie is doing just great.

The biggest indicator of American decline is actually how many hours of work it takes to earn one ounce of gold. In 1950- 46 hours 1956-35 hours 1968-22 hours Today- it is between 289 and 79 hours factoring in time and a half overtime. Minimum wage in America has lost between 84-93% of its value using this metric.

A Big Mac is $5.19 in my McDonald’s app. Where is this $8 Big Mac?
- Probably California but the minimum wage here for a McDonald's employee is $20 per hour. That's still more than 2 big Mac's per hour

Brazilian minimum wage: 1,528BRL per month, or roughly 6.30 reais per hour.
Big Mac price: 24 reais, or 4 hours of minimum wage work.

Meanwhile in Denmark.
Minimum wage for McDonalds employees: 20$+supplements. Big Mac $7

explaining purchasing power collapse to an american: ~~imagine~~ experience no burger
FTFY

After reading this I am both poor and hungry.

Now imagine servers on tips...
IMO some of them are just going to work for the shift meal and pinch whatever they can from the place - leftover food, toilet paper, utentils, etc.
All you can do when you're basically a slave..