Tried to order a part before the tariffs
Tried to order a part before the tariffs
TL;DR I didn't make it in time. Fuck you Trump!
Edit: For those asking, this was https://www.irvwpc.com/ Please support them if you can.
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It’s exciting time for smugglers. Ever wanted to be one now is prime business hours. Go make Han Solo proud like my mother used to in iron curtain 80s
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All the business owners voted trump and now they’re crying about free trade 😂
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I hope they all fucking starve. I mean it won't happen but I can dream.
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Trump is a Russian asset. America will fall within a year. Russia and China will expand their territories freely until Europe is ready to arm itself.
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It is inane that one of the options is "just hold on for a few days and see what happens" and that it is a viable option at all. Government is in shambles.
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There's only one thing businesses hate more than tariffs and that's uncertainty. They would be happier with the tariffs being definite, than this maybe existing and maybe not existing on a almost daily basis.
Because even if he gets rid of the tariffs, he'll try this again in a few weeks once he's forgotten about all of the push back and has randomly decided that Canada is still shipping drugs into the US. Because fentanyl can't be made in the US, everyone knows that.
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He's stupid but not that stupid. He doesn't even care where any drug originated from. He surely slotted "hot-button drug name" into place and blamed Canada because he wants to put pressure on them.
One of the few things in his entire life Donald has learned and been able to apply is the US Republican playbook for blame-throwing.
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This is 100% because of Trump's flip flop ways. Fuck this guy and his MAGA cult.
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Hold off. Kraznov is getting so much shit he is going to walk it back, so he says. Can't trust him any more than a rabid bat though.
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Props to whoever this company is. This is one of the best bits of customer service I've seen in years.
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Solid boundaries, clearly communicated. Giving the customer a choice without hurting their own bottom line. I agree. Excellent handling of the situation.
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This should be the standard lol. Who you dealing with, the mafia?
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Pretty standard business practice for the U.S. is "The Customer Can Always Get Fucked." There's a lot of money that's basically just been stolen from me because I got tired with fighting the company to just ship me the thing I paid for, and I either bought the thing somewhere else or decided I didn't want it anymore. Most companies don't even actually have customer service, just chatbots or outsourced chumps who only seem to exist for Americans to yell at, because they have no authority to do, view, or fix anything.
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I mean technically it's not the company's responsibility. If you've ordered something and they've sent it in a reasonable time frame and it just gets charged extra on entry. It's not the company putting the price up, it's your own government, so you don't really have a recourse.
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I may don't know how the law works but I believe (at least in my country) if you agree on the conditions you can't pull a Darth Vader and alter the conditions after signing/ordering and paying.
Now if there is a clause that states otherwise this may change.
But I agree, at least they are open and upfront with it.
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They are not changing anything. They are warning the customer import charges wil incur if the purchase proceeds. They gain nothing and stand to lose a sale.
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Doesn't matter on their end. If they wanted to they could ship it and let it get held up by customs with a demand to pay the tariff to release it.
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The doctrine is called force majeure. Most contracts have a force majeure clause.
If an external factor makes a contract impossible as agreed, the contract can be made void under force majeure. This is very common, and suddenly applied tariffs would likely be covered by a force majeure clause because neither party were responsible for them.
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I bought a bunch of electronics from China back in December. No regrets.
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I'm worried their networking equipment could be compromised, worse than "American" equipment.
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Honestly; I'm impressed they both messaged you and gave you options.
Usually you wouldn't find out until the mailman is demanding payment for the package he's holding hostage in front of you.
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Is the USPS even equipped to collect customs fees? As USian I’ve never paid an import fee as an end consumer ever in my entire life. All of this is so stupid.
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The CBP collect import taxes. You never had to pay it because there was a longstanding rule called "De Minimis" which exempted all items under $800 from import taxes. the 2nd trump administration overturned the De Minimis rule (does not require congress AFIAK).
Usually, if you buy from a US reseller, you don't pay it directly, but if you order directly from outside of the country, it goes through customs and you'll have to pay it.
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Right?? My first thought was, damn. That’s some good customer service 🤯
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I cant wait until the European/Mexican/Chinese parts that I order from the USA that always arrive with a customs declaration of Origin:USA .. starts biting me in the ass because of their ignorance and Canadian Customs tries to hit me with Tariffs that shouldnt apply.
the better option is to just stop doing business with American shops. and thats what I've chosen, the USPS and Canadian Postal service are both such shitholes, that I have legitimatley recieved stuff from the UK, Poland and Denmark faster than I've recieved stuff fom Illinois and Iowa , in the orders I've made this year. For small things too.
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Any time an eligible item crosses the US / Canada border, a 25% tariff is applied. This is how the US does it, so this is what the Canadian government is copying.
This is terrible for auto manufacturing, where various parts cross the border multiple times between raw materials, loose parts, assembled parts and assembled vehicle. Every time those parts or materials cross either border, it gets tariffed 25%.
I believe if your item comes from the US, lands in another country, gets re-labeled and then enters Canada, it won't be tariffed, but don't quote me on that.
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How do they define "an item", because couldn't a bunch of people get together and order stuff from outside the US and then just have it all delivered in one big box? Are they going to open every box to make sure that there's only one item in it, how do they know it's not just one big item?
For example if I order one washing machine then that's one item but if I order various parts for a washing machine then that's lots of items, but technically the washing machine already contained those parts that were considered one item
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#trumptarrifs
C'mon, it writes itself.
Edit: OK, #trumptariffs. Don't try to drink and spell kids.
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From the covfefe guy I wouldn’t be surprised if he misspelled himself.
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It writes itself? Is that why it has a spelling error?
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#TrumpTardifs
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Naw...
#TardisTrump
Send him back to the 40's where he belongs. Preferably to the front lines of Leningrad in 1941. Let's see how much he likes Russians and fascists then...
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#trumpiffs
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Tariffs? Oh right, import taxes. Fuck Trump.
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And most of the media went right along with wording such as “tariffs on China” rather than than “tariffs on US buyers”
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Ew......I don't even want to know what cheeto based sexual diseases you'd get from fucking trump.....
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You might come down with a severe case of Eric.
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Good thing there isn't hundreds is miles of unprotected border to snuggle across.
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Hmmm… sounds like I need to be spending more time at the border. Question: do we get to choose who we snuggle with or is it like a first come first served situation
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I hate to sound like I'm attacking OP, but unprotected border snuggles are a risky behavior. Please consider having protected border snuggles instead. It feels the exact same, I promise.
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I will finally get to snuggle with my girlfriend in Canada!
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You get to pick, but of course it needs to be consensual. But Canadians are very friendly and free with their hugs.
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That's a lot of snuggling
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Its a little bit of sexy snuggling that could happen anywhere and any time!
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Quite a bit. With increasing prices in the US, lots of people sneak up north with snuggling in mind. You do need to be careful at the official border crossings though. Snuggling is generally frowned upon.
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Question: what would happen if lots of people swarmed right next to the border without actually crossing?
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We'd have to snuggle with our fellow Americans. That would be weird.
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Hmmm… sounds like I need to be spending more time at the border. Question: do we get to choose who we snuggle with or is it like a first come first served situation
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Hey, at least the company seems decent and understanding. I just hope stuff getting more expensive will change the minds of some Trump supporters that aren't completely braindead yet.
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Both of them?
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the minds of some Trump supporters that aren’t completely braindead yet
I'm not sure they'll change their minds, but just discourage them from ever voting a republican again and that's good enough. They can sit at home on election day and let us save the country. (hopefully elections still exist)
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"Additionally, the $800 exemption for low-value goods has been removed."
I didn't even know such a thing existed, it's not something reported on the news.
So every product will be hit with the tariff raising prices, and not just expensive products getting the tariffs. Yikes!
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This is what allowed Temu and Alibaba and Wish and the like to happen (their business model was to send every single product as a single package worth under 800$, leading to enormous shipping times and waste etc., but they don't have to pay import taxes).
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enormous shipping times
This definitely improved over time. I don't order much from Aliexpress, but the last two items I ordered arrived in just over a week - a similar time frame as ordering from a US store that doesn't do fast shipping. A few days in China, then on a plane, then a few days in the USA.
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damn!
And it's not even this government's first big unambiguous fuck you to the common people.
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Why does this article describe it as a "loophole"? It's not a loophole; it was intentionally written into law.
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After the November election we bought a fridge early we were mildly interested in that is manufactured in Mexico. It seemed conspiratorial to consider possible tariffs in the purchase equation considering decades of free trade with NAFTA and later USMCA.
Yet here we are and we're very glad we bought the multi-thousand dollar fridge pre-trump-tarrifs.
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Yeah, my car shit the bed right before the election and I had to get a new one.
Looking back, I’m glad I got it when I did. It was manufactured in Mexico, like most cars in America. If my old car had lasted 6 more months, I might have ended up paying 25% more for what I’m driving now.
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In November, the boyfriend and I went ahead and pulled the trigger on replacing both of our aging laptops (even though it was a bit earlier than I'd like- I just play a lot of Stardew Valley, I don't really need anything fancy).
Thank goodness for that. I'm sad other people won't have been as fortunate.
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Our fridge is 12 years old and we’re just hoping it keeps chugging on 🥲 Four more years!
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But this will make the cost of eggs go down!/s
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Crash the market hard enough and people won't be able to afford them....
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I mean... it might make the eggs cost less relative to other things.
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…so you ordered this in July when he announced the tariffs?
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This will definitely affect every American, every Canadian, and all citizens and residents of any country targeted by a trade war.
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Not sure how much it will affect China tbh, they can self sustain. The manufacturers and exporters though, they won't be happy about it.
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Yeah. We don’t know how it will affect China. But some people have calculated how much it will affect US people
Trump’s taxes on imports (tariffs) from Canada, Mexico, and China will cost people in the United States somewhere around $260 billion a year or around $2,000 a household.
Here is an article about it:
Trump Set to Whack US Working Class With Historic $2,000 Tax Hike
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Does anyone actually know why we are putting tariffs on Canadian goods?
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It's a tax increase which can be (and is being) mis-portrayed as something that the seller pays, when in fact it's the buyer that pays it.
In practice what Trump did was institute the equivalent of an additional 25% sales tax for all Americans when they buy goods manufactured in Canada or Mexico, but because this tax is usually payed by companies (which do most of the importing) and most people aren't at all familiar with how Import/Export works, he seems to be getting away with portraying it as a tax on Canada and Mexico.
(The concern of those countries is not that they pay more - which they don't - it's that a selective "sales tax" that only applies to products they export to the US makes their products less competitive on price when sold in the US, hence they will sell less which is bad for their companies)
I've seen some theories around that the purpose of this significant increase in tax is to pay for the tax cuts for the wealthy that the Republicans are passing.
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Because Trump thinks he's Putin and wants to annex Canada.
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Because Trump is a Russian asset intent on causing as much destruction to the USA as he can.
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Trump administration says fentanyl though very little moves across the Canadian border. They're using it to declare a national emergency and therefore bypass Congress.
From Canada's perspective it's to weaken Canada's perspective it's to weaken the Canadian economy so that it's easier to annex.
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My theory is that they want to control the North-West Passage, which due to climate change will become a high traffic trade route. Something currently dominated by Panama (which he also wants). So they're putting pressure on Canada now.
Greenland is in a similar situation but I think there may also be oil and such there as well.
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Didn't they say climate change was a hoax or was that just for their brain dead cult followers? Amazing how easily they are manipulated. It's like Republicans captured all the media then spewed shit to dominate them, but hey, it works magnificently.
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Does anyone actually know why we are putting tariffs on Canadian goods?
I think his objective is to try and damage Canada's economy, but I'm not sure exactly why. Apparently he really is serious about the "51st state" thing along with the Greenland and Panama thing. He's just that megalomaniacal. He wants to be like Putin.
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Because Trump has a toddler's level of understanding of how international trade works, along with a toddler's tendency to throw tantrums when challenged.
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Trump says it's because China, Canada, and Mexico are bringing fentanyl in.
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He just changed his reason to "Make America rich again". Apparently he forgot about the drugs thing.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/trump-order-tariffs-steel-aluminum-b2695793.html
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Because trump is a fucking brain-dead narcissistic man-child moron? What more explanation are you expecting?
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Align the US with other partners
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I got my Kobo eReader literally days ago, phew
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Shit, I was thinking about getting one but my brain didn't make the connection that I needed to get it before this. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to get it anyway to support some of these companies that may be taking a sales hit because of all this. Or I could just wait a while, maybe it won't be very long until Mangolini backs down.
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