Notorious right wing troll gets one of his many accounts banned for evasion

Jeez, Universal Monk is still at it? Christ almighty.
- He started up another "thenewdonald" comm with a pinned manifesto, dude's certifiable
  
  This community is dedicated to supporting the ideals of freedom, patriotism, and standing up against censorship.
  While we honor diverse opinions, we focus on promoting positivity, constructive conversation, and a commitment to the truth. Join us as we build a platform where everyone can share their voice and contribute to shaping the future.
  Holy hell, that's hilarious coming from that ragebait fascist weirdo!
  
  How do we know it's him?

And here I thought Lemmy was too small to have prominent trolls. Thanks for the head's up.
- Oh we had (have) loads.
- What do you think was trollish about OP's example? Looks to me like someone was mad that the guy posted an AP News article. So is posting AP News articles considered trollish now?!

Good. Lemmy should not be a safe space for fascists.
- There's already a lemmy instance safe space of fascists, they can go there (the instance is blacklisted by the majority of other instances).
  
  Exploding heads?

Monk needs serious help.
- He's a literal fascist. Let Supply Side Jesus sort it out.
  
  Considering peoples' criteria in order to call someone a fascist/nazi, I would be inclined to take that with a grain of salt.

I saw, and was suspicious of Donald J. Musk. Umonk again! What a dweeb.
- Didn't notice the username at first.

sEriOus ConSerVative ComMuniTy
Literally an oxymoron and trust me, I know because I have seen more of it than any of you combined.
It’s mostly all based on: we must make leftist cry. Such seriousness, the very core of it is fundamentally a joke.
No wonder right leaning instance is just shitposts and memes galore. This is basically what modern conservatism is.
- The sad fact is America needs an actual conservative movement that isn’t just nazis in hiding. Im not sure it can exist anymore as conservatives havent had a “normal” party in 30+ years
  
  Does it though? I mean that would be better than fascism, no doubt, but what are we trying to conserve, really?
- No wonder right leaning instance is just shitposts and memes galore.
  A conservative visiting lemmy would say the exact same thing. The difference in my mind is that right-wing memes mostly leave me thinking, "No one says or believes that. Fuck you on about?"
  Same thoughts I have talking to conservatives IRL. Having only been presented with the most outlandish fruitcakes, they've brainwashed into thinking there are legions of fucking nutcase left-wingers out there.
  For left-wingers making fun, yeah, the memes more often reflect what the right actually says and believes.
  (Yes, I'm biased, but I try really hard to be objective.)
  
  Everyone is biased, in some way. There is no such thing as being unbiased.
  
  As a budding radical centrist I hate every cuck winger with equal passion. The left however has some merit to protect the minorities and at least in theory aims to reduce inequalities. The far left are bunch of unfunny idiots however
  Internet exclusive breed of far left ohhh these are people that should be branded with red hot iron

I'd seen comments about this account before and noted how the phrasing and comment behavior was a dead ringer for Universal Monk's usual bullshit. Glad to see others saw the same thing.

serious question, does shitjustworks have a reputation as a conservative community? I guess I do most of my browsing in the all feed so maybe I just haven't seen it? definitely not the instance I'd like to be on if that's the case 😅
- I think they're referring to the /c/conservative community ON shitjustworks. I certainly have never experienced the instance in general leaning conservative.
  
  I love how all the conservative comms have no legit posts above 1 upvotes.
- serious question, does shitjustworks have a reputation as a conservative community?
  No. And the person in OP's example isn't on shitjustworks. It says Donald J Musk@lemmy.today

He's a spicy one, I've been poking him for a week or two. He's about to snap, I can feel it in my bones.
- How could one tell when that happens?
  Dude is bugged out more than an abandoned gas station bathroom.
  
  Dude is bugged out more than an abandoned gas station bathroom.
  I actually like this sentence! Have my upvote!
- Did it occur to anyone that "triggering" those who have had or are on the verge of a complete mental break could exacerbate the issues? Like do we really want to be the straw that causes a suicide or mass shooting?
  
  You ain't wrong but also there is the classic FAFO maxim.
  If you monk says stupid shit, we can't expect people NOT to return the favour.
  But yea if you sense somebody is not mentally well, then people best to take the high road.
- He’s a spicy one, I’ve been poking him for a week or two. He’s about to snap
  That sounds like you're admitting to trolling. Are you talking about me, or the guy in OP's post?
- You should see a doctor if you can feel anything in your bones.
  
  I feel approaching storms in my bones. But I'm also old as dirt.

Has his Barry Goldwater alt been banned yet?
- Donald J Musk stopped posting for the better part of a week and almost all activity stopped on their comms for a while.
  Must be fun talking to yourself through different accounts :)
  Edit: reread my comment again slowly, you’ll get it :)
  
  So if he stopped, then why did they ban him thinking he was me? And in OP's post, the example says it's a word-for-word copy of one of my comments. But I don't have any comments that say that.
  So I'm still not even sure why he was banned. Plus, he's still posting, so it wasn't an instance ban.
  He's not me by the way, so make no difference to me. But you all and your witch-hunts are getting crazy. I'm right here. No need to go seeing me in everyone else. :)

It sounds like this guy actually believes themselves, dang

Hm, so other bans are going to follow?
- Inevitably.
- For what though? What would you ban him for exactly? Because he was accused of being me?! That's the road you guys are gonna go down?! lol

Is there something weird with shitjustworks that I’m not aware of?
- Not that I know of, this is just the unhinged rant of a madman.
  I think the conservative community was abandoned there, letting it go to seed with people who aren't in that cult.
- It's too friendly. Something's not right.
  
  My experience with UM et al is cavity inducing sweetness of tone while spouting racist BS.
  
  Darn people and their friendliness.
- I think the conservative com there got taken over by mods that aren’t right-wing and now exists to make fun of the right. I don’t particularly care but I can see why rightists might not love this.
  
  Yes I actually tried joining a few conservative communities for rational and productive discourse. The "progressive" mods deleted my good faith posts and comments, brigaded and made outright hostile comments. God forbid people seek common ground and building bridges, rather than do the exact things we get upset with "the other side" for doing. They certainly have me not rethinking my values, but certainly rethinking with whom I want to align for the greatest good of our people as a whole, regardless of political leanings.
  
  lol before the takeover, every post made in there was kicked over and over like a sad puppy.
- Is there something weird with shitjustworks
  No. Great instance. Great admins. No one should be bringing in the shitjustworks instance into this drama. The admins there are amazing.

What's the actual lore here?
- Universal Monk was a prolific poster around election time; he had tons of alt accounts that all posted stuff purposely made to divide the left.
  After his accounts all got banned for trolling and evasion, he started up the Donald J Musk accounts and repeated the cycle, this time posting far-right fascist content and trolling people with lies, disinfo, and general unpleasantness.
  It's been an open secret for a while that they were the same user based on the MO, but apparently he fucked up and reused a comment.
  
  Their favourite m.o. during election season was sealioning and concern trolling, as well as baiting people into breaking the civility rule and then reporting them. It seemed to me like they were taking pleasure from skirting around the letter of the law while violating the spirit of it.
  It was completely incredible at the time that they went on for months without getting banned.
  
  The fact that !politics_no_um@lemmy.world had to be created still baffles me
  
  Tbh, it appears to me the guy is in serious mental health crisis. Social isolation isn't great without mh support and tends to exacerbate issues. I'm wondering if it's simply not affordably accessible to them or if it is and they broke so completely they failed to see the necessity. I remember a post they made about breaking up with their gf and that's when the alt-right accounts became highly visible to me.
  
  After his accounts all got banned for trolling and evasion
  What accounts? I don't have any other accounts except for Universal Monk. And I haven't been banned. I'm still here posting. As you can see. My post and comment history is public.
  
  he had tons of alt accounts
  How do we know each persona is his?
- People are mad because I voted for the Socialist Workers Party for the election (my post history on lemmy.world is public, so you can see for yourself). Yes, they are still mad.
  I have no idea who the poster they banned is tho, but everyone here is saying it's me. But that's not me.
  I'm not even a conservative. I'm Socialist.

So where is this word-for-word duplicate comment? Can anyone link to it?
- Nope, because it's not a duplicate comment. I have no idea why the mod said that. lol
  My post history is public, so anyone can take a look.
  And I'm not a conservative anyway, so no clue why they're attacking that person for being me. I still post everywhere, so I have no need for a whole fake conservative persona.
  It's Lemmy though. The haters here see me in everyone they disagree with.

At least the universal monk is being honest with their intentions with that user-name.
- Except it's not my username. My username is Universal Monk. This whole thread is about how they banned someone for being me, even tho it's not me.

Hi guys. I don't know who that guy is. So ya banned an innocent person. Proud of yourselves?!
But since you're all so obsessed with me (Universal Monk), I wrote and recorded a song for the haters: https://youtu.be/K_r-OY6L-zI
I'll put up on alt sites too.
Any good choices that aren't youtube? Thanks, friends! (Even tho ya'll drink way too much hateraide.)
- Oooo an incel with AI, haven't seen that before
  
  I think there's some saying or something.. like... "Don't feed the troll."
  I don't think Lemmy has heard it though. Maybe ya'll could look it up?
  The fact that ya'll see me everywhere just because you don't like what the person's saying says way more about you all than me. But hey, welcome to the fediverse. I don't mind the hate. But you all should at least direct it towards me instead of innocent people! lol
  Also, what about all the people who thought I was a bot? Or that I lived in Russia? Or that I was paid by Putin? Do bots record songs for Lemmy now?! Wait, did Putin pay me for this song? I hope so!