Tesla's decline in Europe

Italy and the uk need to step it up

Fuck Elon, but I am starting to feel bad for the guys who just wanted to make an electric car. They didn't deserve to get wrapped up in this monkey's paw. I hope they got out while they could.
- Ive heard literally 0 shit being flung at the people who work at Tesla. This is the first time I even considered whether this was bad for them.
  They likely are losing money though since I think part of their pay is in stock. The stock is overvalued though still.
  I dont know, if I worked for Tesla I'd probably consider this a wash.

I'm ashamed of the UK and Italy.
- Not so long ago it was up in the U.K., so this is a start.
- No shame.
  I view it as a friendly competition between Europeans. Right now, Spain is in the lead. UK and Italy are trailing but they're still racing in the right direction. I'm cheering for them to catch up.

UK and Italy are evidently full of bastards.
- Or weren't buying many to begin with 🤔
  
  Average .ee user
  
  Not sure about figures but there’s plenty on UK roads.
  
  No they're right, we're bastards
  
  That’s not how percentages work.

Consistent declines for all 3 months of 2025, yoy.

These numbers are outdated, Tesla are back at the top of sales for March in Norway. Such a shame
- Source?
  
  Here, though it is in Norwegian: https://ofv.no/registreringsstatistikk

Why are the rich so stupid? Just pretend you care about human rights and your sales go up. It's so simple. Why can't they even put up the facade of being a normal person?
- That was the last era. Now we're in a masks-off gilded age where the ultrarich think they can do it all out in the open.
  
  So far the American Ultra-rich have been doing well when they didn't get Luigi'd.

I was boycotting tesla before it was cool. Stinky stinky cars.

why is Felon Musk not getting fired for poor performance.
- From the government? Because he bought it.
  From Tesla? Because he is the largest individual stockholder.
  
  And the board is made up of his toadies.

You love to see it

In gonna need England and Italy to pump them numbers up.
- In Italy the percentage is low because not many Teslas are sold anyway
  
  That's not how percentages work, doofus.
- We weren't buying them from the start.
  Italy poor.
  
  Not really. Tesla sold 3469 cars in Italy last quarter. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/teslas-new-car-sales-italy-down-7-first-quarter-despite-51-jump-march-2025-04-01/
  
  I'm poor.
  That's my reason for not buying a Tesla, though.
- I believe it is to do with the difference in the starting number of registrations but would need to see the data broken down.
- Yeah, I was expecting us to be the lowest number, but nope! Still, 2nd from bottom is pretty bad...

I’ve heard from Germany but are there any articles about Spain? Spain seems to hate musk in particular, me gusta
- Does not seem like it. March sales were up 12% yoy. However the quarter still saw a decline.

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This is interesting! Spain and Portugal had in fact a slight rise where others had drops, just a few weeks ago in similar illustrations, but are now among the biggest drops. How can that be?
- I make a point of never trusting internet information until I personally verify it. Particularly these maps, which are nearly always incorrect or misleading. The internet is full of worthless information. Mining for diamonds is the only means of finding anything even bordering on worthwhile in this garbage pit filled with AI, spam, and propagandists.
- Different time frames. I think the illustrations where registrations/sales were up was for a time span of two months or so, but overall they're still down if you look at the time shown on this map
- My completely anedoctal reasoning is that at this moment Portugal and Spain have more pressing local fish to fry and the whole American issues are taking a backseat on the public discourse. Most people you talk to will be out of the loop over the DOGE, MAGA, nazi salute plot. Moreover the smaller volume of luxury car sales are also contributing to a lagged response. People who were going to buy Teslas made that decision a while back.

Interestingly, I do not see quite a bit of European countries, including Poland, Czechia, etc
Feels like either an attempt of manipulation, or lack of research
- If you do speak Czech, Polish etcetera then maybe you can find those numbers. It's not easy for someone who doesn't.
  
  This is the second result for me when I used this duck duck go query
  In January 2025, according to PZPM data, 1,121 new electric vehicles were registered in Poland, which is 0.4% more than a year earlier. In January, against the background of a calm in the market, Tesla showed an impressive decrease in car shipments to customers - by 48.8% to just 103 units. For comparison, in 2024, about 4,500 new Teslas were registered, which gave the American brand almost a 27% share in the Polish market of new electric passenger cars. In January 2025, this share decreased to 9.2%.
- I doubt those are huge markets for premium cars, but also I imagine the car market in Czechia is just overwhelmingly dominated by Skoda.
  
  Wow, you're just going to throw that stereotype around without any data huh?
  How about we look at the data for 2024...
  
  Place Model name Cars sold Comparison 2023 1. Škoda Octavia 19 425 -11 % 2. Škoda Karoq 10 843 +20 % 3. Škoda Kodiaq 10 328 +19 % 4. Škoda Kamiq 9 504 +1 % 5. Škoda Scala 9 443 3 % 6. Škoda Fabia 9 389 -13 % 7. Hyundai i30 8 744 +13 % 8. Škoda Superb 7 404 +17 % 9. Hyundai Tucson 5 762 -11 % 10. Kia Ceed 4 975 +9 %

That’s just January, just when fElon was just getting started.

I won't cry for Musk, quite the contrary... But I also don't know how important the EU as a market is for Tesla?
- It is third after NA and Asia but still huge.
  
  You mean China? They are not part of NATO. Note that the election of Trump have almost made it crystal clear the USA does not care much about NATO anymore (they seem to only care about Ukraine's underground which is not yet part of the EU (what a happy coincidence). So Turkish armed force ranking may very well already be a non-question just that we, NATO-members, have not been officially told so yet... In Which case China and Russia, and Turkey?, would be very happy.

If you're having doubts about how much this movement is working, remember this chart. Keep the boycott going!

You gonna have to pump those numbers down, those are rookie numbers.

France and Spain FTW

Why are only some countries included? Did it go up in the other ones?

What numbers would cause them to go bankrupt? I can't imagine any business surviving such significant losses for very long.
- Tesla's stock price has little to do with Tesla going bankrupt. This is about Musk himself. He's heavily invested in Tesla and as Tesla's stock goes down his net worth and power goes down.
  What it does make difficult for Tesla is to raise money through investment.
  Tesla's problem with all of this is brand damage. Best thing Tesla could do now to recover the brand is remove Musk as CEO. However, as the largest investor he's almost self-appointed.
- Tesla has something like 40b in cash, and makes more profit on their vehicles than everyone, even at these lower prices, except for companies like Porsche.
  You could probably halve their total sales and they'd still be fine financially.
  The stock would be another story though.
  
  40b doesn't sound like a lot for such a big company, though. That money will burn through quickly, unless they start mass firing their workforce.
  There must be a breaking point. No large company can just exist without sales keeping them afloat.
- What numbers would cause them to go bankrupt?
  They'll shrink in size but will always be a big player in the EV market.
  The main question is: how big a decline will be required for the board to boot Musk out?
  
  If they shrink in size, and the EV market becomes "all cars" then they'll be insignificant.
  
  but will always be a big player in the EV market.
  Not for long if their sales continue to tank, because that revenue will be going to other manufacturers, who will become bigger than tesla, eventually.
  And I don't simply want Musk out. He'd still be rich because of Tesla. I want the company to fold completely. I want his fortunes to be zero, and his influence to be less than zero.
- It is less about portability on sales and more about the ability to drive R&D.
  The technology will continue to improve. If they fall behind, that will be what really tanks sales.
  They have a lot of cash but they need to keep feeding the R&D on batteries, charging, software, and cost reduction tech.
  Their biggest protection is tariffs since fairly large markets are locking out all their real competition. As long as those are in place, they will be able to soak up much of the EV demand.

Q1 vs Q1 Tesla is up in China, it was something tiny like less than 2% though where q1 2024 was already low.
They're still down pretty much everywhere else though.
Generally speaking, picking individual months is pretty meaningless.
- China needs to tariff tesla heavily to protect their companies.

Dataisbeautiful

Is turkey considered part of Europe?
Asking as an American so I understand this.
Edit: thank you everybody that replied and my question is asked incorrectly. I meant if it was part of the EU.
- geographically some of it is.
  "Europe" doesnt always mean "European Union"
- Yes, the European part of the country is part of Europe and the rest of the country is in Asia. Source: I listened in middle school.
  
  I see.
  Can you provide a link to your middle school source?
  /s
- Basically the part west of the link between the Mediterranean sea and the Black sea is considered is considered European and the rest is not.
- Turkey has asked to join the EU already. It was denied last time but something tells me next time they may be very welcome instead.
  (hint: Turkey has the second biggest army in NATO right after the USA and has the most active/quickly growing weapon/armament industry in Europe too)
  
  I think a change of government would be required as Erdogan is only getting more authoritarian. I suspect this is partly because he knows the backlash is coming, but that may lead to even harsher crack downs on decent and he could go full Putin. The EU wouldn't want that hot mess inside their borders.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Thrace
  
  And this is the European bit of Istanbul:
  https://istanbul.tips/guide-about-european-side-of-istanbul-things-to-do-see-how-to-get-around/
  It is where most of the key historical buildings are, and I've always had accommodation there (my uncle lived there too). If you are flying in, you'll usually arrive at the main airport, which is also on the European side. If you are foolish to use EasyJet they use an airport on the Asian side which is an awful long way out of the city and involves driving through mile after mile of new tower blocks that are a worry in an earthquake zone (earthquakes are moving westward along the North Anatolian Fault and Istanbul will likely be hit next - it'll be horrific).

Italy: MFGA

Welcome to the electronic car world controlled by China. Real fascists that put millions into reeducation camps and are now a forced slave labor population. The irony is shocking.