Lemmy has the ideal number of posts for me. Just enough to have a good time but not too many that I'm scrolling forever
I realize it won't be like this forever, but while scrolling Lemmy I eventually come to a point when I start to see a lot of old posts and it's a perfect signal that I've done more than enough scrolling for the day
Guess that's enough internet for me today
It’s true for more popular sub forums but it sucks for hobbies and more niche topics.
I agree. Very much like Reddit in the early days.
Also, the level of civility and intellect in the comments is relatively high.
I've found more belligerent comments have started to crop up, and sure enough, most of the time the account is about 2 weeks old. I really hope lemmy doesn't change with this latest influx from reddit.
Yeah, there's a lot more of that cropping up. Belligerence, backhanded insults. I can see it being legit on some of the comments but then there are other comments where there are people just going after people to feed their own agenda.
I found it was happening worse over on Lemmy world, I've blocked a few of their major communities, and just started contributing on smaller communities on smaller nodes.
Fwy, some apps allow for automatically applied icons to indicate such. I forget exactly which ones, but I know PieFed's web UI does it. It's very helpful imho.
PieFed also marks people who receive like 10x more downvotes than upvotes. That way you can still choose to read their content, but seeing that, decide how best to respond.
I got sent gore by a two year old account yesterday
I expect much bigger influxes. From at least a few dozen people with hundreds of accounts. Probably around the time of an election.
Way more arguments on Lemmy seem to end with the two users stop down voting each other, and then basically concluding 'that I see your point but still think you're wrong because youre over emphasizing x or y'.
Way more arguments on Reddit just end with an endless loop of insulting and talking past each other.
I think the effect is probably like 30% selection bias of people coming to Lemmy more intentionally, and 70% lack of bots. Between paid influence campaigns, and Reddit's own use of bots to juice engagement, my gut feel is that most of those endless arguments are either directly arguments with bots, or indirectly people who have grown so frustrated arguing with bots in other threads that they're no longer capable of rational discussion.
Also, Reddit comment quality has nosedived in the past year or so. Like, wildly nosedived. It used to be that there would be at least one comment in the top comments that adds some more interesting context to the story, these days, I almost t never see that on Reddit, but frequently do on Lemmy.
The average age of a Redditor started to go down even several years ago, long before Rexodus, in large part as the platform changed things to encourage speaking even without bothering to read anything at all.
Thus I decided to leave Reddit regardless, and only fortuitously decided to come here. Some things simply are not worth the trouble.
Yeah, I agree.
On reddit it seems the remaining human commentators are those who have taken over the mannerisms of the bots and adjusted to talking to the bots.
And you always get stuck in these endless loops of hostile disagreement.
That's just not how normal humans argue. Even on the internet.
Normal humans either agree to disagree or just give up. In both cases ending the conversation after all useful things have been said.
reddit also has tons of troll bots, and bot farms to do it. Ru has targeted lemmy yet.
Eat shit and die, cunt
I hope the openness of the platform will continue to allow us to keep it that way as things grow.
Intellectual? Perhaps. Civil? Not always…
I'm just happy that I dont have to scroll through dozens of puns before I get to the first coherent post.
Le this narwhal bacon midnight that's what she said doggo.
I'm also enjoying participating in forums I would never touch in any other medium. I find the people that I disagree with have much better points, with significantly fewer radicals, idiots or crusaders.
Ugh the crusaders are the worst, they're just nasty
I find the people that I disagree with have much better points
Yeah same. I've had many more educational moments on Lemmy, in both directions, than I ever did in 10 years on Reddit
I find the people that I disagree with have much better points, with significantly fewer radicals, idiots or crusaders.
Honestly, it gives me hope.
My best experiences online have been as part of smaller communities where you can actually know and recognize other people. I see people commenting on threads and I can remember them talking in a different thread (or multiple threads). So it is much easier to know 'ok that guy is touchy about this thing but is otherwise a decent person' and not treat everyone like a 1-dimensional character.
There is also a place to politely challenge others, especially when you see more out on a long (touchy) expressions.
I describing myself there on that limb as well of course. I've found myself well challenged several times on a limb.
Comment quality is also very well balanced...
Using a combination of top day, mark read on scroll, and hide read, I regularly reach the end of the internet, and am glad.
How do you do this? My main problem with Lemmy is that I always see the same posts
Connect on android has those features as well.
I'm using the Boost for Lemmy app on Android. My memory is that the Sync for Lemmy app also has the "mark read on scroll past" feature. I thought I read a discussion that implied that some web Uis for Lemmy also had this, but that's not what I use and not what I know.
What client are you using to read Lemmy?
YOOOOOO that’s friggin AWESOME
Great idea!!!
Just be aware that there are many haters here too. A few days ago I posted a positive message about the EU and.... oh my God... what a wave of negativity and hate I get. It was just like we - in the EU - are now living under the authoritarian regime of the EU. My reaction was.... I'm out of here, so I'm not in that community anymore. I hoped that Lemmy was a more "positive" community, but that seems to be a naive world view. There will always be haters and they are everywhere.
The word youre looking for is „russian-american trolls”
The EU is neither a Regime, noir Authoritative. It is our current best way to never repeat the stuff that happened during the cold war in the USA by requiring everything to be open and accessible to the public. The EU is literally what you shape it to be. If you have a problem with what kind of laws the EU is passing, you have a problem with the people voting, not with the system itself.
There is a lot of unelected entities persuading governments. Germany for instance was going green with solar and wind as their central bank shut down pro carbon funding, yet they imported Russian energy as a backstop as they shut down their nuclear reactors.
That kind of unelected Davos influence can cause permanent harm to a country, as their energy prices are 3 times higher than the US now as they burn lignite, leading to deindustrialization as they try to compete with China in EV. They also want to censor climate misinformation, as they attempt to put in censorship laws.
https://climate.ec.europa.eu/eu-action/climate-disinformation_en
They are also rushing in the CBDC for October, when they created laws telling corporations to track their emissions its pretty clear where that's headed as far as carbon quotas.
Where did that happen? I couldn't find the community from your comment history
I think they're referring to the 8 down votes they got on the post where they told people they need to watch a YouTube video
I find that the EU has much better representation on Lemmy vs Reddit.
The current scale of Lemmy is appealing. It doesn't have the same breadth but I happily trade the toxic elements of Reddit, etc, for a little breadth.
I never though of it like this. But I like thinking of it this way. I am excited to watch lemmy grow though. I have faith that it will go and become a lot more popular. At that time, it will be nice to have more niche communities that are active.
Same! Lemmy is one of my favourite places on the internet and it's comfy to me. I'm also excited to watch it grow and become more popular! 😃
I love this too. I get bored after a while on Lemmy which..is a really good thing. Get some news and memes, and get off.
Them's some good memes huh
It is nice to not have to doomscroll too much in Lemmy.
Even more, it's nice that you couldn't if you tried. this is why i left reddit and came over here. Some good memes, some good posts, some nice comments, then in 15 minutes you are out of stuff and you naturally put your phone down. Perfection
I disagree, I'd like a greater variety of topics especially on general conversation communities.
Incan agree with that. I miss the active guitar subs from Reddit. I'm hoping we can revive a few here.
Yeah, I just sort by new. I see everything posted in my subscriptions, and can just be done for a while. It's great. And early comments get more upvotes, heh.
I mute a ton of communities, and I really like quickly getting to the "end" of All. Then I've blocked some other dopamine sites, so I get bored and go play outside 🤣
Wait, the "All" feed has an end? I need to step up my game
Yeah, All Top [time duration] just pulls the most highly voted of the selected time length. The shorter the time period the easier it is to run out.
You can also really feel that the algorithm doesn't just blindly promote click/rage bait the way that reddit's does.
It still gets promoted some times, but the front page isn't constantly filled with it like Reddit's is,.
That's the beauty of having a platform where your engagement does not matter because there are no advertisers to woo.
On the one hand, this could dishearten moderators and admins if there are fewer engagements and traffic in the community.
Yes but no but.
On a busy day when I only have a limited time to browse and I don't want to get trapped in the infinite "just one more page bro" cycle? Yeah Lemmy is good for that. But if I need something to pass the time for more than an hour or so (transit layover, extremely delayed appointment, sick day at home, etc) Lemmy has neither the constant influx of new content nor the archive of old content to allow for hours of distracting rabbit holes to explore.
I like that on Lemmy you can comment on a 20+ hour old thread from the “front page” and still have a good chance at responses or interaction from other users.
Any subreddit that regularly hits the front page of Reddit requires that users comment in the first hour or two of the post being made, or latch onto some chain from the top existing comments, or else your comment is basically just thrown into the void. It’s even worse now that Reddit has started showing day or week old posts on the front page, like why bother commenting on those posts when absolutely no one will see it…
They're showing day or weed old posts on the front page? I wonder if they're losing members that give content or is there another reason?
Yep, if you open any subreddit (not including the reddit.com front page), it sprinkles days old posts in with the default “Best” filter. It’s a mystifyingly annoying change because from a user perspective you have to re-read the same post multiple times each week, and there’s no point further commenting on those threads because no one else is still engaging with them.
It’s like the worst of all worlds combination of old forums and old Reddit, because old threads keep getting necro-ed, but users have no control over which ones are coming back or when they do.
you are on to something. after my last acc was shadowbanned for a comment from a mod removal, not even major policy. i started visiting the shadowban subs, thats the only place you can comment and people respond. i noticed almost everyone there has been shadowbanned for no apparent reason, soon after account creation, a simple comment that caught a filter?
it seems like they are culling the reddit population to a small managable group, so they can probably sell it off, also because Musk is responsible for some of the major purges this year, since he has complained to SPEZ on quite a few occasions.
because lemmy is probably more engaged with the "threads more" on reddit its like quick fix, and most of its political, there are on to the next thing that trump has right now, or some thing republicans are doing, also i rarely revisit old political posts anyways, you can get into deep with arguments, and it sometimes doesnt end on reddit.
Even better, I set it to hide read posts. Who knew there was a bottom to the internet?
If you really want to test out what part of Lemmy you're actually interested in...
unclick "Show Scores, Show upvotes, Show Downvotes, and Show Upvote %" in your profile settings for a week and report back on what changed for you.
But then how do I jump on the Upvote/Downvote Bandwagon?
It's funny because people who think they're above the whole bandwagon thing still don't realize how just seeing the numbers causes a response in them. This site is 1,000x less interesting in a social aspect when you can't see that engagement, you'll find yourself logging in less and less till you just don't see a point in it.
The opportunities for discussions and such is fun, but I miss the memes from Reddit. Lemmy is almost painfully unfunny.
it is nice having Enough content
Yup, and then if you do endlessly scroll all you get to see either very wild takes, porn, and/or extremely niche start up communities, depending on your level of federation.
Shame it takes so long to get to the good stuff.
It also reminds me to post something back somewhere.
It’s like a better version of Reddit in 2025, but what I really want is Ye Olde Reddit of 2010. I keep seeing comments about how Reddit turned to shit with the API changes, but IMO it’s been garbage for more than a decade. I haven’t been on Lemmy for long but so far I’ve mostly seen the same posts as on Reddit with mostly the same types of comment, just at smaller scale.
it definitely changed around'16, subreddits were getting banned because gop complained it was illegal, and all because 45, everyone/mods filters became toO SENSITIVE, so now your comments can be misconstrued as a disruption, when its really not.
I know what you mean. It's good but not TOO good. Proper proportions of honey and shit.
It's the goldilocks of social media. Not too cold but not too hot. Just right.
I realize it won’t be like this forever
You can always keep moving to smaller instances.
This is a great point. I have another account on a smaller instance, and there I frequently just read everything in the local feed.
I actually have way too much to go through if I'm being honest. Last year, it had a good number of posts to go through and stop, now, I have way too many to cover.
While do find myself using Lemmy a little too much, because of the lack of time-wasting and dopamime-hitting algorithms, I find less incentive to spend more time on Lemmy and other Fediverse socials.
Same, I much prefer paged scrolling as well, its easier to control or measure how much you scroll.
Enjoy it while you can
The beauty of it is that we can enjoy it forever. If one instance gets too noisy, we can block it.
You don't have enough subs. Slacker.
/s
Same.
LOve that endless scrolling is an option and not a forced setting.
I take breaks for weeks at a time when I've literally seen everything.
After thinking about that it would be cool if that became feature somehow.
Limiting how many posts you can see per community on Lemmy
Being able to switch between seeing all post, a few, or none to help with curbing online addiction
Exactly how I feel!