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  • PlanetSide 1, the MMOFPS that was the former record holder of "Most players in an online FPS battle," which was eventually surpassed by PlanetSide 2.

    In its heyday it was a fascinating sociology study.

    During EU prime time, players would self-organize into squads of about 10 players. They would apply light pressure to the entire map simultaneously. Territorial gains would be made by attacking undefended bases.

    During USA prime time, players would self-organize into platoons of about 30 players. They would press a few strategic locations with medium force. Territorial gains came from fixing operations (using a small force in an easy to defend location to keep a large population of opponents busy) and local numeric superiority at lightly defended bases.

    During Chinese prime time, players would group up into a singular mass. Everyone just ran face first into the meatgrinder. No territorial gains were made.

    • I played ps2 heavily for a couple of years. Fun game.

      I remember organizing several squads to play tactics when the main zerg pushes were off doing random stuff. There was a lot of planning and tactics that had to happen specifically around guessing what the public players would end up naturally pushing for. Colloquially known as "the zerg". Almost treated like a mass of self-organizing players, but in reality they were just individuals who happen to follow each other to random places.

      Eg. leadership comms would be flooded with plans of "The zerg is pushing towards Tawrich, We should send Alpha and Bravo over to Zurvan to split the TR forces (maybe recapture that) and Charlie to crown to intercept backup/vehicle spawns. Delta needs to fuck off with pulling those tanks... get in the fucking building."

    • I regularly play gw2 and in it there's a mode called world-vs-world that's a three way team "bigger" scale battle (bigger than 5v5 pvp) that often has hundreds of players in (I'm not sure exactly how many, I just looked it up but there's little concrete information because it looks like the devs change it over time, but I'm guessing like 300 total players per map that often gets maxed and you have to queue for).

      Players can spend a chunk of gold to enable a toggleable commander status tag on their entire account (you get 1 gold for base dailies, costs 300 gold for tag). In WvW, those commanders often lead larger scale pushes for claiming territory over a ranked "tournament" that ends and resets each month.

      I've noticed it's also an interesting sociology study, but from what I've seen, the Chinese commanders do coordinate and split up and do pincers and stuff. It seems like one big zerg isn't as effective since yeah you'll take what you go for no matter what, but it's all about allocation of resources and fighting the actual battle.. and that takes actual work, when a lot of people are just interested in farming out crafting materials, currencies, achievements, or other reasons. Which is fine, but part of me wants to see the game mode go 100% and see what it's capable of.

      Depending on time of day around the world and when people are awake or home from work, there are huge spikes in activity.

      I never played much PlanetSide 2 because at the time my pc was a potato and I was still wrist deep into counter strike. Would those maps ever end? Or was it also like a perma-sisyphean timeless battle? Was there ever a winner?

  • Star wars 1313 was THE game I was waiting for. Got very sad when it got cancelled.

    Also all of the in-progress and for some completed content that just got shelved for Disney infinity because the new management at Disney forgot why games mattered. (Same time when they absolutely gutted lucasarts). Just for them to start from scratch again a few years later when they realised they still need a videogame presence. Which makes the losses of what could have been hurt more.

  • Mother 64
    Mother 3 is my favorite game, but I'm still bummed this timeline didn't get a fun quirky N64 graphics Mother game. Would have been interesting to see which style elements came through in 3D, which didn't, and what new spins on things would have added to the series

  • EverQuest Next. That game would have been the best MMO ever, if they would've stuck with it. Unfortunately, SOE got bought out and the new owners were whackos who didn't care. It's sad because nothing has come close since then. Only GW2 and ESO have even a fraction of the concepts of EQN.

  • Babylon 5: Into the Fire. Killed just months before release after a corporate restructure. The closest we got was some Freespace mods.

  • Mass Effect Andromeda. I absolutely love the game and have played through it multiple times, wishing for DLC. for an expansion of this wonderful universe that I love to explore.

    sucks really bad that it will never come back 😔

  • There's a lot of games being mentioned here that had a full run. Let's talk about an actually cancelled game - SkySaga: Infinite Isles. Block game in the vein of Portal Knights that was extremely inspired.

    The gameplay loop consisted of using "Keys" on a portal at your home island that would randomly generate a floating island with various objectives on it and a boss, all of which was harvestable for materials and blocks to build with back on your home island. There was a social hub city island everyone could access that alowed access to PvP and a few types of guilds with various combat, gathering, and exploration quests. Crafting was pretty good, allowing you to use metals with various properties to mix and match your own gear - some metals did more damage or applied an elemental effect, some had quicker swing speed, some were durable as armor and others not so much but they increased movespeed or jump height.

    The game had about a dozen beta access phases then dropped off the face of the earth, with the server (and how it worked) lost forever. Completely lost to time, cancelled before it could release proper. No other block game has come close to the kind of structural appeal it had for me, and I think about it frequently. There's a few reverse engineering projects in the works but they are stagnant.

    I love a lot of the games in this thread but they had an actual release and real servers, you could play them for multiple years. Some others promised a bit more than they delivered, and were cut a bit short by EA or other trash publishers. SkySaga was killed before launch and placed in an opaque prison, truly cancelled.

  • Blacklight Retribution was pretty great. I played quite early in its lifespan, during an event which gave me a special nameplate - nothing more than a participation trophy, and at the time, loads of people used it.

    Signed in a few years later to.play a few rounds, and some guy begged me to let them use my account because of that now-rare nameplate.

    (I also had an extremely cool helmet and some seriously powerful guns I got for free in that game's equivalent of a lootbox)

  • If we're talking straight up cancelled, then I will forever be sad that Scalebound was cancelled.

    I'm sure it wasn't going to be as great as I was hoping anyways, but damn the concept looked so cool, and when I saw a dude with headphones jamming out to music fighting with his dragon buddy I was like "I want to be that!" Like it felt like that game was being made especially for me and my interests, and then it got cancelled 😔

  • I may be stretching the definition of cancelled a bit because we don't know if it was ever in development to begin with, but I will forever have a chip on my shoulder about Puyo Puyo 30th Anniversary.

    The three best games in the series were Puyo Puyo 15th Anniversary (2006), Puyo Puyo 20th Anniversary (2011), and Puyo Puyo Chronicle (2016, this game is 25th in all but name). None of these games were released outside of Japan, but after Puyo Puyo Tetris's Switch port got localized in 2017 and sold really well, fans had high hopes that the pattern would continue and the next one of these would get localized too.

    The pattern did not continue. Instead, Sega responded to PPT selling well by making Puyo Puyo Tetris 2. It's literally the exact same as the first game, only much buggier. It's a terrible game and I hate it.

    To this day, we still have not gotten a proper mainline game. In fact, Sega just announced they're rereleasing Puyo Puyo Tetris 2S as a Switch 2 launch title. This is all the series will ever be from now on.

    • I was one of those people who bought Puyo Puyo Tetris as their first Puyo game, mainly to have a 1v1 Tetris on Switch. Turns out I really like Puyo though, but... "the tetris player is at a slight disadvantage". Or, as this video essay explains, the problem with PPT is that the two games are fundamentally so different it's impossible to balance them. Forcing them to play competitive online against each other, will always end up with a monoculture. In this case no one can play the first half of the Frankensteined game.

      I'm sure Sega must realize that. Now they just have to care.

    • The three best games in the series were Puyo Puyo 15th Anniversary (2006), Puyo Puyo 20th Anniversary (2011), and Puyo Puyo Chronicle (2016, this game is 25th in all but name). None of these games were released outside of Japan

      kagis

      https://puyonexus.com/wiki/Puyo_Puyo_Chronicle

      After being defeated, Satan joins the party and promises that the way back home lies at the top of the Color Tower, and all Arle would need to do now is scale it to return home.

      Hmm.

      I think "Satan as a playable character" might be one of those cultural-issue things that would come up when considering localization.

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