1y ago

At Least 260 Killed At Israeli Music Festival In Hamas Attack

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At Least 260 Killed At Israeli Music Festival In Hamas Attack—Attendees Describe ‘Horror Movie’

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Nothing can justify this.
Edit: You guys aren't getting this, so I'll explain it. This was senseless murder. Period. This wasn't some he said she said left versus right bullshit. Go ahead and say "actually" and go fuck yourself. I'm tired of this ridiculous nerd baiting bullshit. You're not funny. You're not witty. You're not scoring points. Life isn't reducible to the whims of some shitty sorting hat that rewards you points because you're not a cunt. This was senseless murder and should be treated as such without stupid fucking dry sarcasm.
- And yet many will try
  
  Then they are a piece of garbage
- but maybe decades of throwing bombs in their heads explains it
  
  Nope it doesn't. They didn't rape the women at the music festival because of the Israeli bombs. They did it because they're monsters and they enjoyed it.
- If all you people actually cared about Palestinians and didn't turn a blind eye about all the atrocities committed by Israel the past 70+ years, none of this would be happening now.
  You're removing the all context because you don't give a fuck about Palestinians and their treatment by Israel. You're trying to pretend this happened in a vacuum.
- Do you know how many thousands of civilians were killed by the allies in WW2? Do you think that was unjustified too?
  Nothing against you if you say yes, it's just about consistency.
  
  Yes. Yes that was. And very irrelevant to the topic at hand. What are you trying to do, get a moral compass of some guy on the internet? Then what, open discussion? This is baseless murder. Stop comparing and start raging at the injustice.
- Israel is reaping what they sowed.
  Maybe not justifiable, but 100% predictable and a direct response to Israel's illegal actions (and unfortunately, as usual, innocent civilians are the ones who suffer).
  
  The people affected here aren't "Israel". They're just civilians trying to live their lives. Believe me I hate the Israeli govermnet and am very sympathetic to Palestinian soverignty.
  NOTHING justifies terrorism. It's evil and the people who did this are rats
  Edit: yeah downvote me you sacks of shit. They raped women next to dead bodies of their friends.
  
  So you chill with Israel leveling Gaza then?
- Lmao what serious Marxist is saying this is ok?
  
  You're being downvoted, but a shit tonne of people are justifying the atrocities because it's againstna people they hate.

I guess the only solution is to evacuate the people that just want to live their lives, and nuke the entire area so it is uninhabitable for the next 200 years.
Not a good idea at all, but maybe it will stop the meaningless slaughter for a bit.

Now if only people cared this much any time the IDF slaughters innocent Palestianians, or journalists, or medics.
- You can care about both at the same time. Shocking, I know.
  
  Nooooo my worldview is strictly black and white there is only good guys and bad guys. No nuance, I've made my choice
  
  The one results in the US moving in a carrier group, Israeli flags being projected on large sights all over the world, an unaminous call to solidarity, immediate termination of any humanitarian aid to Palestinians and preemptive justification of any war crime commited in retaliation.
  The other results in checks notes stern words of condemnation followed by business as usual support for the Israeli government.

Perhaps it was a bad idea to host a music festival in occupied territory?
Getting Crimea Beach Vacation vibes.
- I mean it is essentially murdering people partying on people's graves - not proportional but I can't imagine people didnt know it was a provocation.
  Its tragic but I think unless people start calling the Israeli government's decades of murders and evictions "terrorism" it seems like the press is very much deciding how people should see "Hamas as the sole villain" and I think there's a certain amount of justified pushback here thats being misinterpreted as "support for Hamas"
  
  Can you lot stop throwing out the word war crime to try and make things sound worse and get an emotional response.
  Killing civilians is not actually a war crime by itself.
  Israel does not recognise Palestine as a country or Hamas as a government, so they cannot be legally at war therefore it can't be a war crime.
  Also as far as I'm aware Palestine is not a signatory to any convention on war crimes anyway.
  
  State sponsor of terrorism victimized by terrorist attack.
  Yes it’s horrible, but partying on stolen land is reckless.
- Urim has been Israeli since the country came into existence, so I’m not really sure what you’re talking about. Unless your position is that all of Israel is occupied territory, in which case I invite you to take a look at what Palestinians did the moment they gained power over Jewish civilians and imagine that scene repeated across Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
  
  Urim has been Israeli since the country came into existence.
  There's so much propaganda from both sides that I don't know what to believe about who, but Israel has only been a country since 1948 - that's after the invention of the Jeep, microwave ovens, Frisbees, jet aircraft, etc.
  I'm not aware of the agreement made with Palestine for the land, but I've seen enough videos of Israelis near the border, both citizens and uniformed men, throwing Palestinians out of their houses so Israelis could live there. Not to mention the violent acts.
  
  I think they’re saying that because it’s colonized territory and the native population was removed its occupied. So yeah basically arguing against the entire Jewish state. Not my argument just what that is sounding like.
- The festival was for peace. I bet many of the folks that were shot there supported Palestinians.
  
  If you were a Palestinian living under occupation, how would you feel about bunch of Israeli's having a party on the other side of a fence to keep your out of your own homeland?
  Colonial oppressors throwing a party on stolen land doesn't strike me as very peaceful.

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