Trump says US kids may get ‘2 dolls instead of 30,’ but China will suffer more in a trade war

Why isn’t it “rich people will have 1 yacht rather than 4”?
- You know why. The same reason Martha Stewart gets jail for insider trading but the ultra rich and politicians do it in the open with no consequences
  
  Yeah, I was making a point.
- Because you keep your yachts in the Caribbean so they aren’t subject to tariffs anyway

If he understood anything about his electorate, he would know that it would be a choice of 1 meal a day instead of 3, if the rent is still paid.

Goddamn fucking piece of shit fucking moron

Let them eat cake!

"The american people will suffer but china will suffer more." So hes hurting us to hurt them? Great job dumbass.

Except the kids aren't getting 2 dolls. They're getting dragged out into the middle of the street half naked in the middle of the night because the brownshirts can't even read an address correctly when they're casually disappearing whole families.
Why the fuck is this even reported on. Fuck this whole system, down to the author that thought 'ya that's worth making an article'
Don't buy your kids dolls. Buy them fpv drones.
- Sadly, this probably concerns the average voter more than all the Nazi shit...

What is trump now? a buddhist? How is a child with 30 dolls suffering? unless they are suffering from too much happiness.

but he insisted China will suffer more from his trade war.
Even if this were true (which is dubious) this doesn't make me feel any better. That would simply make this a Pyrrhic victory.
What is the point of any of this? Oh yeah, cruelty is the point.
- The point? I think he expected the world leaders to come bearing personal gifts and favors. Trade some of the US's global position and power for his own personal wealth and power? I don't have proof, but it would be on-brand for Trump.
  He's also surrounded himself with yes-men and crazy people (e.g. Navarro). He clearly has an elementary understanding (at best) of economics. Money good. China bad. Money go to China bad (trade imbalance). Tariffs keep money here.
  Combine all that with the fact that he never admits responsibility for anything. When China pushed back, he retaliated. When they stopped participating, it leaves us in a stalemate that I believe will hurt us a lot more than them.
  So, I think the trade imbalance is the justification. The goal is likely just personal power for Trump. But he doesn't really know what he's doing, doesn't care to learn, just thinking he's the greatest being in existence and everything bad is not his fault.
- Nah, raising a shitload of money fast for tax breaks to pay off the billionaires who handed him the presidency is the point. Cruelty is why idiots would vote for this

What about the kids who were lucky to get 2 dolls prior to the trade war? Shit outta luck I guess.
- Trump has a plan for them too. The coal mines.
  
  Florida is already making it normal for children to be the future workforce.
- They get to BECOME the doll of some rich kid. You woke people really hate freedom.
  
  Reminds me of middle-age tales where when a princeling disobeyed his whipping-boy would get beat.
- Just tell them kids in China have negative dolls. That will make them feel better!

2 dolls instead of 30 works out to a reduction of 93.3%! That's HUGE. If that's supposed to be his positive spin on things, Americans are truly fucked.
- It really shows that he doesn't care about Americans, he cares about punishing and attacking people that he doesn't like. That is all that matters to him, and he doesn't hide that. He doesn't want to make things better, he wants to make people suffer.
  The fact that he has supporters is absolutely unfathomable to me. Then again, those same supporters want to punish the same people he does, so it starts to make sense.
  
  He wants to punish Americans more than probably anyone else. Americans had the nerve to laugh at him when people joked about his hair, or makeup, or physique. Americans did not elect him in 2020. Americans allowed him to be forced out and didnt fight back hard enough when Biden "stole" the election. Americans allowed him to have some minor inconveniences when they put him on trial, raided his house for classified docs or made him take reaponsibility for his actions. Americans are going to pay because he knows nothing other than vengence for percieved slights and Americans allowed them all to happen

A real "let them eat cake" moment.
- That's the real statement. Instead of 30 dolls it will be 2, but that translates to food supplies, too. Instead of 30 dinners in a month, we'll only have 2.
  In the year after Maduro took over Venezuela, the average citizen lost 40 pounds.
  
  I could stand to lose 40 pounds honestly
- Supposedly brioche, but yes point stands.

People are going to die in the streets due to the impact of these policies.
- Not sure man, my vehicle threw a rod and I am struggling to find financing to get a used vehicle until I make the money to figure out a long term solution. Partner checked FB marketplace because I don't have an account, I checked Craigslist, and the dealers near me can't seem to make a loan work with $1000 down on vehicles listed at $15k. Found one car selling for under 10k, but it has 95k miles and everything online seems to say it has a 135k mile average lifespan. So when you don't know how the people before you drove it, and it's got a 3rd party exhaust on it, I have to assume my extremely (55-60 mile) drive to work will leave me stranded on the side of the road by the end of the year still owing money on it unless I scrape the barrel everywhere in my budget and somehow sell it for nickles in 6 months trying to trade it in for something half way better. Maybe I can get arrested when I become homeless and die in jail instead of on the street.
  
  Go to credit unions around you and apply for a loan yourself. You shouldn't ever rely on dealerships to find financing for you. Interest rates are awful right now but with your commute you need something reliable and fuel efficient (like a Camry or Corolla).
  
  Why are you looking at dealers? Plenty of Camrys and Accords out there. They will do 400k miles easy. Ask private seller if they're willing to do a inspection, find a mechanic that'll do one for you and then meet at their shop.
  
  I was gonna suggest an electric bike until I saw that mileage. Fucks sake man, best of luck
  
  Maybe I can get arrested when I become homeless and die in jail instead of on the street.
  Do it quick, lest you end up in a foreign death gulag to top it all.
- The right people I hope.
  
  Only those that can't weather huge price hikes, lack of public service, and defend against supposed federal agent just robing them out.

Cause American girls were getting 30 dolls every Christmas.
This guy is such a psychopath that he doesn't even understand how Christmas gifts work.
- Big "How much could a banana cost? $10?" moment
  
  If a dollar is good, then lots of dollars is even better. To him, toys are like currency for kids, so when he wanted to buy a doll for Ivanka or Eric, he'd give them 30 of the same doll, rather than a bunch of different toys.
  Jr just wanted his daddy's love, which doest exist, so he was shit out of luck.
- Looks like American girls are up to 113 dolls
  
  113 American Girl dolls would be expensive as shit though - I think with all the accessories and accoutrements you’re looking at the price of a decent used car. The newer models are also shittier (less history focused, because Mattel lol)
  The books though - they went hard. There was an entire series about about an enslaved girl who escaped to the north with her mom (I wanna say Addie?). Felicity, the American Revolution girl, stole a horse and got told what the consequences could have been (like, iirc it’s like “yeah you could have totally been hanged for that stunt.”)
  I was too broke for the dolls, but if you have a kid - the books are A-tier children’s historical fiction.

Even if this were true, a policy that hurts everyone isn't sucessful just because someone else suffers more than you.
- It is for Republicans
- It wouldn't even be a pyrrhic victory. It would just be mutual suffering.
- When your worldview is completely transactional, and you believe that literally everything is zero-sum, then you do view that as successful.
  
  But everybody suffering isn't zero-sum. It's net negative.
- If your whole policy is to own the libs, it kind of is.
- Isn't this the whole ideology of the US. Always kick downwards?
- It's called a Russian victory.
- If your suffering is negligibly small and your opponent's -- critical for him, then you can demand something.
  Imagine a war where all sides are losing soldiers but one side is winning.
  But in the case of China I'm not sure who will suffer more in the long run.
  
  But in the case of China I'm not sure who will suffer more in the long run.
  Consumers in both countries, as it always is with tariffs.

China is happily selling to the rest of the world, and yes their sales will go down without the US market, but they won't in sense of the word "suffer".

China's economy is still projected to grow while US heads to recession , this guy tries to create his own reality everywhere he goes.
- China has the whole world they still can sell to. The US has shut the door on all existing and potential partners
- That's kinda how he rolls. Just ignore reality and bully everyone that says otherwise until people are too tired of it and change reality to what he says it is.
- And his sheep boys will bend over backwards to believe him. He loves the uneducated.
- Which was known long before the election. So people better get used to play with two dolls.

The rich will still get 30 and a new sports car

Can't wait to see what happens when China stops buying our debt.

Yeah, I'm sure China's trembling at the mere idea.

Suffering is the point

Because that's what it's all about - someone else suffering more. The objective is to increase the amount of suffering in the world, since we clearly don't have enough of it just yet, but making sure others suffer more than us. Because trying to make it so that everyone suffers less is communist, unamerican and bad, I guess...
- "trying to make it so that everyone suffers less is communist..."
  Truth has never been better said.

I don't think most kids get 30, but is he already talking about how Christmas is going to be? Tomorrow is May 1st. That is 7 months away.
- Buy presents right now. I'm serious.
  
  Doesn't work great for young kids, their interests and abilities change a lot in over half a year. Especially with a new school year which doesn't start til August/September.
- It's just another example of him being delusional as fuck.
- I think what he‘s trying to say is that everything will be 15 times as expensive so it‘s not that-… oh my gosh…
  
  its the WEAVE, weaving 9 incomprehensible things together in trumps mind into one that his magats can digest.

Except a doll is $10 for the crappiest model, meaning were already only getting two dolls in the average budget. With that logic, we'll have to save up for the doll parts and assemble a single doll ourselves.
- It's one doll, Michael, how much could it cost? 10 dollars?

Cutting off your nose to spite China

Donny "2 dolls" trump.

We are already at a family video game for the kids to share and a really good dinner for the week.
- doesn't sound like you're sacrificing enough. good dinner should be monthly
  
  This is Christmas Dinner. Once a year 😭
  
  ...we get a good dinner once per week on a good week; we get a good week once per month on a good month; we get a good month once per season on a good season; we get a good season once per year...

Everyone knows the goal of running a country is to make people suffer. Not to accomplish anything positive. That would be GlObAlIsM
- If Utilitarianism is about maximizing overall benefit and minimizing harm, Trump is an Inutilitarian

Nothing like a rich guy who has never known struggle to tell everyone else they need to struggle because he's a moron
- This speaks to a broader issue -
  whenever there is an economic crisis, whether manufactured by trump or created in other ways, its never the rich that have to sacrifice its only the middle and lower classes. And when the wealthy are ever asked to sacrifice in the form of higher taxes they get pissed off and call everyone else a "taker" of their money.
  I genuinely believe that most people understand this but our collective voices have been muted, manipulated and managed by some in positions of power.

More like two meals instead of three

"It's One Banana, Michael. What Could It Cost, $10?"

Why parrot his bullshit in the headline? China will not suffer as much as the US. This is such bullshit.
- Because that's the eye-catching part of it? The ridiculous quote is why we're here.
  
  It is. And it just further proves he doesn't know what he's talking about. China might take a hit, but the us is going to be drastically worse off.
- I honestly think they might because of how Xi operates but this isn‘t a contest. It‘s just reckless and destructive.

“People are worried, even some people who voted for you, saying ‘I didn’t sign up for this.’ So how do you address those concerns?” ABC host Terry Moran asked Trump.
“They did sign up for it, actually, and this is what I campaigned on,” Trump replied. He added, when questioned about price increases on electronics, clothing and homebuilding, that “China probably will eat those tariffs.”
Man I hope democrats use that ammunition he left sitting there for the next 80 years.
- How do you eat a 140% tarrif? Set the actual items value to a negative number?
  
  Sounds like something he would say.
  "You'll see. They'll pay us to receive their products. Soon they'll pay us. And then we'll have more dolls than we know what to do with. We'll have so many dolls."
- “China probably will eat those tariffs.”
  Lucky China, they at least get to eat something.

Even the Grinch didn't go on TV to tell peoole he was stealing Christmas.

I don't understand the hard on the right has for China yet they benefit greatly from China's low costs. As soon as the USSR fell and Islamic fundamentalism faded away I just knew the US would be looking for a new boogeyman to keep us distracted and justify defense spending.
- The fact that they call it a defense budget and not a military budget kind of says it all too.
  I'm all for actually defending your country, of course, but yeah...
- The irony being that Russia would have worked fine if the Right wasn't in their pocket.
- There are many reasons you would be against china.
  Not a democracy
  Helping Russia in the invasion of Ukraine
  Aims to invade Taiwan
  You always want some amount of local manufacturing. Relying on a single supplier is never a good idea in any context if you can avoid it.
  Helps north Korea
  Claims international and other countries waters for itself
  Uyghurs
  Tibet
  Many active border disputes due to territorial expansion aims.
  Secret police stations to enforce it's laws outside china
  Hong Kong
  Low prices doesn't justify any of that.
  And that (non-exclusive) list (except the 1st point) is only what affects people outside of china. There's many other reasons to dislike the CCP that only affects the Chinese. Like mass surveillance and censorship.

Americans are basically winning because they aren't suffering the most

Is an anti-consumerism Trump on anyone's bingo card??
- Didn't you know that consumerism is not conservatism? No? Neither did I, but the ~~good~~ people of r/conservative think so all of the sudden. Somehow.

Trump singlehandedly destroying American overconsumption.

Bad luck for the ones who could only afford two to start with huh?

Ah yes, the country with an established industrial base and centrally planned infrastructure is gonna suffer more from tariffs than the checks notes usury and consumption economy run by competing interests and bolstered almost entirely by the ownership of foreign assets and reliance on its currency for international trade.
Honestly my only conclusion is that they know and are willing to create an economic crisis for the purpose of consolidating political power in the form of "emergency measures" as fascists usually do. I refuse to believe they are just stupid
- Trump, and many of his supporters, think that America is China's biggest client. They're totally blind to the idea that China is China's biggest client, and that it's not even close.
  Their total lack of understanding of the world outside their little exceptionalist bubble is hilarious and depressing

American kids might “have two dolls instead of 30 dolls,”
Operating on the assumption that most households aren't buying their kids 30 dolls (and those that do are probably going to be under the least economic pressure to cut spending), if American households actually cut spending on their kids by a proportional 93% of whatever they were going to spend, I expect that midterms are going to be interesting.
- The wife and I have cut about that much of our spending, not including rent and bills. Major ports are already showing a 30 percent drop on imports. And not to mention that most of our farmland is either corn or soy. Pretty sure the majority of corn is used for ethanol and soy is exported. Other countries won't buy our exports and we won't by our own products. I've worked in manufacturing, American made is as bad as the "cheap" Chinese shit we complain about, only significantly higher priced.
  
  Farmers are already in crisis and Temu fans just learned what a tariff is and they don't like it
- You have more faith in the American electorate than I do.

Fuck this shit.
Nobody cares about how many dolls kids are getting.

Trump has no idea how the world works at all

Let Barbie eat cake!
- Leave Bondi out of this. She has trouble with math, not cake.

“Kids might get two calories per day instead of 2,000. But hey, Chinese kids will suffer too!”

Almost everything we buy is from china including MAGA goods. This moron does not have a clue
- If all US-produced products vanished from shelves in China, they'd hardly notice. We're about to discover the reverse situation.

but wait until he can't find a good inflatable doll any longer...

I make a point of not listening to what felon rapist traitors say.

The Anti-Santa Claus.

Hey as long as someone's suffering right?

China: home ownership increasing average income increasing best transportation network for a large, stratified country in the world
Wow yeah sure looks like they're losing.
- Well sure that’s easy to say when you exclude the lower class.
- No you dont understand, affecting 12% of exports representing a total of 8% of their gdp will totally bring down chayna and make them pay for illegally seducing capitalists into removing manufacturing from the US in search of destroying socialism. It'll be the end of chaaiiiina this time.

I mean if this is what it takes to suppress Republicans, so be it.