Sacrifices have to be made for profit

The disconnect from reality here is just mind blowing. Dude needs to go overseas and witness how utterly terrifying a threat on your life you have no control over actually is. Sidenote: punchable face.
- Yeah actually mental.
  What he calls 'dedication' is actually fear at having to hold your job down during the middle of a fucking WAR because if you disappoint your corporate overlords you will be both getting missiles rained on you AND unable to support your family.
  It's desperation, and desperation which is very intentionally baked into the system so dickhead 'leaders' like these can get the slaves they are looking for and label that slavery as a 'positive work ethic'
  So out of touch with real people.
  
  What are "people?"
  You mean the objects that exist to further my ambitions, and accumulation of wealth?
  Not my problem.
  /s
- Basically any CEO, and even most small business owners, would kill you if it meant a few percent more yearly profit.
  
  Not all, but definitely the majority.
- He's been brainwashed to exalt capitalist culture, probably by his parents and their social circle.
- Motion to eject them before they eject us
  I yield back my time

Someone should fire this guy. Out of a cannon. Into the sun.
- Just set him on fire here, no need to launch a rocket with all the pollution that will create.
  End result is extra crispy lunatic either way.
- We need a Pacific Garbage Patch for billionaires and horrible CEOs. Just shoot them into the garbage and let them become one with the ocean.

CEO: Working in office is good Also CEO: Hiring offshore is also good
???
- Silly domestic remote employees want a livable wage and are less tolerant to being paid less because they don't live in an overpriced area.
- That's weird. It's almost like they don't actually care about "incentive structure", "attracting top talent", "work/life balance", "team cohesion", etc. But they wouldn't prioritize exploiting workers by seeing who they can control the most for the least amount of pay, would they??
- 😂🤣😂

"Returning to the office" is such a gross phrase. Get fucked.
- Isn't it. It has a strange implication as though being in the office is the proper place and one day we all just forgot to be there.
- My employer has stooped so low as to call it "return to work". Like, what the fuck have I been doing the past 5 years!?
  I'm currently in the final round of interviews for a new employer. I don't expect that they will be nearly different, but at least they will pay more.
  
  In my salary calculations, office days will attract an added cost and is part of the negotiation. MDA , with its multiple sites and janky schedule, for instance, was a 100k job with 300k of attracted bullshit.
  We didn't come to an agreement.
  
  They hate the idea of not being able to control others as much as possible.
  Even as they email directives in their pajamas, while skinnin' it on Pornhub at the same time.
- I'm going to start calling it "Leaving your home".
- This guy seems to have no clue that introverts and neurodivergents are way more sensitive to the hot/cramped/bright/loud environment as the toxicity it is - fun fact: open plan offices are considered sexist - and if he can't engage his people at their fullest simply by enabling people to self-select work environment, then he needs a little more mentoring.
  But that went out of style 20 years ago with technical writers and putting employee health before workload as required.
  
  Your first mistake is assuming this person thinks other people are "People," neurodivirgent or not. Other "people" are objects to be used when useful, and discarded when not. The only thing that matters is what can empower and enrich one's self.
  Your second mistake is thinking the the "Work Culture" of 20 years ago is a dead ideology. It's not, they have a goal, and conviction to bring that back.
  I'm not trying to be condescending, or insulting, but these people are incapable of empathy, and don't have a conscience. The smart ones hide their psychopathy to a degree to keep themselves out of prison. They do not care about anything, or anyone not themselves, or anything that is not useful to their ambitions, or goals.
  I mean that literally. THEY. DO. NOT. TRULY. CARE. ABOUT. ANYTHING. BUT. THEMSELVES.
- Especially to "differentiate yourself" 🤣 it's basically the exact opposite.
- It feels like a phrase from a cult trying to convince ex members to return to the fold.

"I live in a poor and war-torn country so I will work for a low wage even while my home might be bombes"
Captialist nut jobs: "So dedicated!"
I swear, if it was legal to execute employees they would do it everyday because "that's what it means to be a good CEO" or some shit
- They'd sell their organs first.
  "Today is mandatory skin, bone marrow, and liver donation day. There might be pizza. Employees with moret han one kidney have to refer to HR."

Because it's so important that you physically sit here in the office, we're replacing you with people on the other side of the planet.
- Bonus points if your company mandates return to office, lays off people after they return to office, and then builds a nice new office overseas in a completely opposite timezone to fill with replacements. Then make the people there physically sit in that brand new office... and make them report to the people here.
  The job? Data entry.
  I just.. I don't... Why...
  
  Something something a lot of people falling for talking points put forward by people invested in commercial real estate because if companies start going fully remote the value of commercial real estate will collapse. Combine that with a mix of people who own these companies also being invested in commercial real estate so it's self serving and companies just in general wanting to have more control over employees.

The reason they are cheap and dedicated is because they are desperate, living in a country where if they didn't have this job they would literally be starving and in poverty.
So CEOs like this are simply capitalizing on their desperation to save money from hiring domestic workers who have a better safety net. Absolutely disgusting pieces of trash.
Also why does this guy who looks like a 19 year old frat boy believe anyone should listen to his advice?
- why does this guy who looks like a 19 year old frat boy believe anyone should listen to his advice?
  No, I get it. He reminds the bosses of their kids who they're ignoring. He tells them what they want to hear so they can pretend their kids love them.
  
  This sounds like the most convincing reason why this guy (or bot maybe) makes these posts. It is posts on LinkedIn afterall.
  
  He's a rich kid who thinks he's superior.
  Put him to work in a rural South produce picking operation for a year without access to his trust fund.
  But then, he may scheme how to work that situation for more profit after his term.
- Cause mommy and daddy say how great he is
  
  And loaned him the money to buy his self-storage business.
- They have a Zero-Sum ideology.
  The literally believe that life is a Zero-Sum game. That there are winners, and losers. Everyone only cares about themselves, and objects that can benefit them in some way. That includes family. Every single human will take advantage of you, if they can, to benefit themselves. Anyone who says otherwise is deluded, or lying. Any act of generosity or altruism is a strategy to benefit yourself, in admiration, or profit. The Russian culture openly accepts this. Everyone, EVERYONE, is working an angle. If you fall for it, you deserve what you get.
  They literally believe this Social Darwinist nihilism, and believe anyone who doesn't is stupid, or weak, and deserves to be dominated. They are incapable of true empathy, and think it is weakness.
  The definition of True Evil.

If I post in slack that my family was almost killed and the CEO responds with “this is getting me fired up!!” I will absolutely leak admin credentials and let that bitch get hacked. Kinder and gentler than choking a mf
- I saw that disgusting comment at the bottom. He is a caricature businessman from a Verhoeven movie. We've reached what was supposed to be over-the-top satire.
  
  If Verhoeven put this in a movie people would be like “that’s a little much” these people are disturbing
- I would hack the next incoming drone and target it at the CEO.
- No, you won't.
  
  Them: If this thing happens to me that most likely will not happen to me, I'll do this thing.
  You: No, you won't.
  You see what that shit looks like? Congratulations Cletus, you've spoken the obvious about a hypothetical. No I won't be shooting the people responsible for destroying the planet, thanks for reminding me.

This kinda shit is one of the smaller reasons we all cheered on Luigi.
- Luigi is a 'big hammer' solution and
  it didn't make a real difference
  getting to where 'small hammers' will fix the issue seems so far off
  We have so far to go, and farther by the day.
  
  One Luigi will never make a difference.
  That's just a small hammer too.
  
  Oh, it did.
  His example is in the back of everyone who is not a Fascist Cultist's mind.

Yeah, when you're easily replaceable and need the job, you tend to work yourself to death. It's really hard to get a tech job in India, and I assume the same is true for Pakistan.
So yeah, dude has no EQ.

Great, another 26 year old that stumbled into wealth and thinks that makes him an authority.
Like those 20 something "executive coaches" fresh out of school I always seem to stumble upon on LinkedIn. They think they are incredible, but in reality they are only incredible in the literal sense.
- They're in the Cult of Mammon. And most are too stupid to realize they literally worship wealth.

I was managing a project with contractors in Ukraine when the war broke out. They had some equipment of ours on loan for around 10.000 euros. While I was handling their employees suddenly scattering all over Europe, my upper management wanted me to ask them to keep our equipment safe. I told my management to get fucked. Luckily they understood how insensitive they were being.
I continued the project, we even paid our invoices earlier to help them out. The company was so grateful. Later in that project, my coworker who is originally from Iran expressed his sympathies when Iranian drones were raining down on Ukraine, how he was ashamed his country was doing this. What a moment
- That reminds me of 2015 when there was a big flood in Chennai. We were working on a project and the software team was located there. When the floods happened we didn't hear anything from them for a few days. A middle manager sent a very angry email to them complaining that we would not be able to make the milestones if they didn't work during that time and he actually asked us to send an email every few hours asking for updates (we all ignored the order except for one guy)
  Thankfully upper management and the CEO office knew better and sent a support email to them and I believe they reprimanded the other manager.
  After a few days we learned that some employees actually lost their lives and the office itself was affected and they're were not able to return to work for a few weeks
  
  My former company had an offshore team in Bangalore (actually, 90% of our company was located there). We had a morning meeting right before a critical release, and the offshore leader told us that nobody there would be able to do anything or even be in contact for the next two or three days. Turns out they were moving to a new office building but nobody there had told the US team anything about it - even though they knew our project schedule. This was completely representative of our communication with them.

I’ve managed people in India before - not to save money but to handle overnight tickets - and to me they work too hard.
One of my reports was affected by some pretty significant flooding and asked if maybe they could have a day off.
I told them to not worry about work until their house was no longer filled with mud and water.
- Nice job dude. How did your wife take it after they fired you for being human?
  
  I wasn’t fired. I just stopped being a manager. The worst part is all the other managers.
  
  With flowers, wine, and by candlelight. Not that it's any of your business.
  😉
  
  With flowers, wine, and by candlelight. Not that it's any of your business.
  😉
- Your adequacy is stand-out in our time. Keep that wonderful prioritization and don't let the machine change you.
  
  Non illegitimi carborundum
  
  Good luck saying "Fuck That," when "The Machine" lets your pay your mortgage. Health Insurance. Food. Electricity. Utilities. WiFi, which lets you post here, and waste your time and brain on social media...
  You know, the shit grown ups worry about.
- "YOU GODDAMMED COMMIE PINKO WOKE BITCH! GET THEM BACK TO MAKING MY PROFIT!"
  /s

- I'm in favor of letting him turn the metaphor literal. Please go headfirst, Collin
- I hope it's a brick wall.
  
  Or the outer wall of a 20th floor suite.
- I've seen someone try that.
  Alcohol was involved.

This is the most monstrous human being I’ve witnessed here. There is something fundamentally broken in him, and I’m terrified that this diseased thought process will spread through speech. I pray it’s genetic, and therefore quarantinable.
- A lot of it is biological, but he is almost certainly born into a family, and culture, who worships wealth, and considers it the only metric of worth.
  Like Trump. His niece Mary has stated that was the only thing that mattered in Fred Trump's opinion: wealth, and the ability to generate it. Anything else was weakness.

Born on third base and thought he hit the home run look and feel.
- Born on third base and thinks he scored a touchdown.
  
  Born on an airplane and thinks he's an Olympic shot-putter.

I have been in tech for almost thirty years and this August will mark the 20th anniversary of the company I started.
In my experience, there are two predominant types of tech exec. On the one hand you have the folk who invest in "human capital", which makes it sound awful but it is meant as a way to acknowledge that your workforce is your main asset, not a liability to be trimmed for cost savings. The other are douchebags like this guy who start and run companies putting out sub par garbage on the cheap. Some of these companies do business at a loss, just so they can show an active book of business so they cam borrow even more money. They are rarely profitable and produce nothing of value...but they do love to circle jerk each other to no end.

I have said this in another post, Western employers love to hire non-Western immigrants because non-Western cultures are still traditional and conditioned to obey authority and hierarchy, and to value work more. And more importantly, this results in a less class conscious population, so non-Westerners are less likely to complain and unionise than their Western counterparts. While the minimum wage in most Western countries is peanuts these days when one considers the worsening cost of living, immigrants think Western minimum wage is CEO-level salary when compared to their home country's basic pay, and thus don't complain for being overworked for little pay by Western standards. Needless to say, Western companies exploit non-Westerners because the latter don't know better.
- That may be true, but that's not what's happening here.
  What's happening is that person is so desperate for any income in a place that is an active war zone to support their family. Earning more money than they ever could there, where there in literally no income.
  Fuck, I hate American MBA culture.
  
  I don't disagree. Economic predicament is also exploited by capital owners to exploit workers no matter the race and ethnicity.

I’ll bet $50 this “CEO” has very few “employees.” Maybe just one. Which makes the screenshot message even sadder.
- OK yeah. He is a recent grad from Dartmouth and his company markets exclusively to college students and boasts $500,000 in sales.
  This might sound like a lot but it’s not enough to have many employees. He’s essentially a self-employed ~~kid~~ young man acting as the sole managing member of a disregarded entity and his “Pakistani employee” is likely a 1099 gig-worker, not a w2 employee.
  So, big grain of salt here. It’s a ~~kid~~ young man cosplaying as a big-shot CEO on social media. Maybe don’t luigi this one until he’s had the chance to actually be a colossal piece of shit.
  Edit: trying to learn not to call young adults kids, even when they totally look or act like one
  
  Receiving a message like that from an employee and responding with anything other than encouragement to do whatever they need to keep themselves safe makes you a colossal piece of shit.
  
  Edit: trying to learn not to call young adults kids, even when they totally look or act like one
  Meh. Act's like a kid, is likely a kid.
  
  Edit: trying to learn not to call young adults kids, even when they totally look or act like one
  This is admirable, I could do better about that myself.
  
  likely a 1099 gig-worker, not a w2 employee
  I'm not familiar, but those both sound like visas for foreign workers? From the original post, I don't think the developer is living in a western country. I think it's outsourced to a Pakistani living in Pakistan.

Keep running through those walls my guy, don’t let your dreams be memes.

"makes me want to run through a wall" is an interesting way to say you are turgid

This has to be satire. Please, someone tell me it's satire.
- It has to be.
  Point one says come back to the office, indicating they don’t like remote work.
  Point two says hire people to work remotely.
  
  I'd like to believe you, but that could just be hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
  
  Do something to differentiate yourself, accept a pay level like you live in a war torn country

Collin really gives off that "I kill small animals to feel alive" vibe.

i thought he was going to say something like "I got this message, look how horrifying our foreign policy is and how it affects random innocent people" but he just instead decided to go "hey wanna exploit some labor overseas for cheap? consider hiring someone currently getting carpet bombed; it's so lucrative!" fucking psycho

Hahahaha, yeah, hiring overseas is a great way to skimp on payroll. In my experience, it’s also a great way to skimp on quality, effectiveness, and sanity. We just got rid of one guy who, immediately after hiring, asked for an RTO exemption for a newborn child; fine, it was granted. When that expired, still refused. Was counseled on it and their low quality of work. Then tried having someone else attend their meetings, was called on it, and resigned. Pretty sure they were trying to subcontract their job to work multiple full-time jobs.
- Seeing more and more of this domestically.
  People are recognizing that their relationship with their employer is exploitative and are trying to return that energy.
  I've worked with a few people recently that clearly were holding multiple jobs or were much more focussed on their side hustle.
  Symptom of a bigger issue in my opinion.
  Could it have been Jesus that said "Those who live by the free market shall die by the free market?"
  I like how his expression of inspiration / passion is destructive (running through a wall). It's very on brand.
  
  Yeah, I hate the exploitative nature of overseas hiring, just colonialism with a fresh coat of paint. I also dislike their in-person requirement of two days per week. As has been noted elsewhere in this thread, there is a good, non-exploitative use case in providing overnight coverage for US-based orgs so that no one has to work night shifts. I’ve done both, and it’s hard to get and keep good people on a night shift, regardless of where they live.
  I’m all for doing the minimum to stay employed, but in this case I was told the employee didn’t, so not only were they not meeting even a low bar, but they were exploiting someone else in turn to do it.
- That guy was a "straight-shooter with upper management written all over him."

I vote for sending drones to american ceos, I’m sure they will “give a shit” afterwards and be more motivated on the workplace. 📈 /s
- CEO is just a regime whore tbh

i would not be able to work in an environment where any colleagues fellate the exploitative bullshit corpo "leadership" with such fervor
- Then you need to find a career with a skill where you can be self employed.
  I'm not being a smart ass.

This guy rents out storage boxes and thinks he’s some sort of business genius LOL.
- His ego is larger than his penis size.

https://x.com/collin_ruth89?lang=en
This guys xitter account will turn you green with Luigi.
- What a bloody insufferable cunt
  
  He's a Dartmouth alum, too. I can tell you as a New Hampshire native that we'd be in a better place if that fascist finishing school for nepo baby cunts was wiped from the planet.
- https://xcancel.com/collin_ruth89?lang=en
  I'd call him a douche nozzle, but I doubt he sees that much action.
  Fucking cunt thinks he invented something he calls Bottle night. No, he just found a way to make spending time with him bearable. Fucking little shits have to "invent" something to spend time with actual people
  
  Oh shit. Do I owe him residuals for inventing getting drunk with your partner after dark?!
- I love that colloquial, and am stealing it. Thank you!
- Can someone summarize some of the allegedly stupid stuff he says?

This guys job ‘title’ is an automatic block for me, dawg.
- He probably went to School of life.

This definitely meets the Lunatic level.

Pokemon trainer NPC
- That got me fired up!!!

Yeah, we need more of the "I'm so desperate I have to keep working even though my town is being shelled" mentality here in the United States of Freedom! That's the dream our forefathers fought for!

This is the corporate behavior Libertarians never want to discuss. Their Elysium where corporations treat everyone well and don’t destroy things out of some unforced understanding that to do so would place them at a major disadvantage is a farce. There will always be disparity, and corporations will leverage that to pay the poorer less than the better off, dump waste where there are no rules, and drive people to keep working while bombs fall near their homes.
- No Libertarians have that philosophy.
  Their philosophy is "No one should stand in my way to make profit, and I should never have to spend one cent on anything I don't want to."
  Libertarians are hardcore Republicans who are smart enough to not state they are Republicans. They are True Believer Objectivists, and there is nothing admirable about them.

As shitty as things like this are, at least they're self identifying who needs to be in the Guillotine line.

Biggest way to save on payroll, take the highest paid employee, and just offshore that position. Going to guess that's probably the CEO.
And honest question, the fuck do most CEOs even do, exactly? Not there ones working at startups or whatever... Why are they given seemingly dictator power over the company? Why not remove the position and use democracy to run the company...?
- CEO's are the fall guys when immoral decisions need to be made.
  They are easy to replace, get a golden parachute, and all the board members can continue their fucked up shit without anyone important going under.
  
  But they almost never get prosecuted for willful, and intention malfeasance.
  You have to be caught stealing from other rich people to get prosecuted as a CEO, or be so obviously guilty the populace would riot.
- Why not remove the position and use democracy to run the company…?
  Because that would be socialism, and socialism, as we all know, is EVIL.
  
  "Sharing Is Stealing."
  Milton Friedman, Patron Saint of MBA's.
  
  Hey, look I'm all for democracy, but it isn't a be all solution for everything.
- They're supposed to be the one that lead the company to become better and bring in changes, and take the fall if something happened. They make decision for the company. But often its result in someone of nepotism/cronyism background with the boards and just sit there being useless, or someone the board of directors merely bring in to take the fall. The position itself is very useful for small private limited company, as the founder might not have the expertise to lead and inspire confidence from the worker.
  
  "Better," meaning higher profits and stock price.
- They supposedly make decisions to constantly raise the returns for investors. I.E., profit, and stock price.
  That's it. And when the investors lose confidence in that ability, the CEO "resigns," and gets an obscene "Retirement Package." on the way out. The "Golden Parachute." On top of "Retainment Bonuses" to not to quit while successful, other arbitrary bonuses, travel expenses, figuring out how to not raise wages for employees, suppressing unionization attempts, sacrificing infants to Mammon, having sex with underage girls/boys, etc.
  This entire culture is obscene.

What a little shitbag...

Lots of words but not much substance

What a fucknut

- That time was super short, happened only in a few selected countries and is an anomaly blip in the history of the world. And even if you think that your life is noticeably worse today, you're still far far better off than the majority of the population today and throughout history.
  As for why this time has ended: humans have a need to live in a need. Otherwise they become bored and destroy everything they have. Again, that state of life is not normal, humans cannot live like that, we're not adapted to such conditions.

I'd rather starve than return to office more than once a week

Dude looks like he is 12 in his pic, wtf

Good fucking god Perkins, that shouldn't be the takeaway !

The extra L stands for leadership.

If Americans would just socialize in real life and stop using these companies, then they wouldn't get ad revenue and they would go away. I block all fucking ads. I have contingencies. I VPN all the fucking time. I lie about my telemetry. I have a recursive DNS server. I mean I do everything I can. The internet has become walled gardens and hostile towards working people. It is a front in the class war. Some people are just late to show up to the party. I use my Boomer mother who's too stubborn to adopt my methods and also probably doesn't have the cognitive abilities as my control group. Being a pessimist and not trying is you locking yourself up in your own chains. My mom's phone rings off the hook daily. While mine rings about once a week. we use the same phone. Two phones, same model phone. I do not use Facebook because I'm not a beta cuck or any of these things. I do not use Twitter. I do not use Reddit. I do not use GitHub. I don't use any of these fucking things. If I had a job that required these services, I would create a computer that was just for work, and I would take the battery out of it when I got home. I would never connect it to my own internet. You pay for something and then they milk you. Now tell me how does that make sense? The problem with America is a nation of uber-cucks. This is war! At the end of the day, if it gets worse than this, I am willing to smash every computer I have. But I don't need to do that, because I don't have Windows Management System. I don't use Mac. core boot baby. If you want a future worth living for, then try harder. The last thing you want to do is bring work home. I will return to the office and I would hope the workers that I worked with wanted to have a union. I don't shit where I eat.

I'm like 90% sure this guy is joking, but I'm being Poe's lawed hard right now

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/collin-rutherford_i-got-a-crazy-message-from-my-pakistani-software-activity-7326282878999228416-2Q_k