Human Rights Watch says Israel used white phosphorus in Gaza, Lebanon
Human Rights Watch says Israel used white phosphorus in Gaza, Lebanon
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Human Rights Watch says Israel used white phosphorus in Gaza, Lebanon
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Genocide
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If they actually want to commit genocide, why are they telling the population to leave the dangerous areas, perform roof knocking, etc.?
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They told like half of Gaza to clear out in 24 hours, that's well over a million people, it's literally impossible to accomplish that. It's to get deniability when killing civilians.
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To give the illusion of escape.
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Telling them to leave, but not actually letting them go...
Telling them to go to bomb shelters that don't actually exist...
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Well, you generally don’t declare to the world you’re doing genocide. You ask for forgiveness, not permission.
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They told people to gather in the city center, and then they bombed the city center
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There's reports of them bombing the exit corridor.
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They stopped roof knocking last week.
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Telling people to leave when there is nowhere to go, Egypt is refusing to open their border and I doubt Israel is going to open theirs, isn't not wanting to commit genocide: it's a way to save face, to say "well they didn't evacuate so it's their problem."
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This is all around horror, we are the worst.
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We, the ones who realize this is horror, are not the worst. The worst are those who use chemical weapons and feel justified in doing so. The worst are those who are comfortable murdering innocent people with methods so gruesome they were internationally banned.
Fuck Hamas for the war crimes of murdering innocent civilians. Fuck Israel for the war crimes of murdering innocent civilians, pushing people from their homes, and now using chemical weapons on par with napalm. The only prayers I give, to a god I don't serve, are to Palestine and those just trying to live peaceful lives.
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That last sentence pisses me off:
White phosphorus is considered an incendiary weapon under Protocol III of the Convention on the Prohibition of Use of Certain Conventional Weapons. The protocol prohibits using incendiary weapons against military targets located among civilians, although Israel has not signed it and is not bound by it.
Why the fuck do we give them any military support then? If their reason is true ("we need help to defend ourselves"), there is no reason why they couldn't sign a fucking protocol for minimizing casualties.
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Because we want Israel to use wp. Wp rounds in guns are the "tracer" rounds and can be used to correct long distance fire.. And with modern "smart" artillery shells you can have them hit a course correct in flight to hit a "hot spot* that a drone or operative lit up. This allows you to use artillery without having to flatten several city blocks to hit one target.
Without the use of these sorts of rounds artillery would have to fire significantly less accurate rounds. And like in the Ukraine War, Gaza would be reduced to nothing but rubble. Gaza is so small that Nort Korea has the ability to flatten it with its Artillery setup.
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It's because both combative parties(Israel Government, Hamas) are out for nothing but blood. They don't care who's blood it is, they just want it.
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Human Rights are not Zionist Rights.
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Wait, I thought chemical warfare was a war crime or something.
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Look at Russia, it don’t matter because everything is fucked to shit right now in regards to international law
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Depends on what they used it for. White phosphorus is the best known substance for creating smokescreens. It also happens to brutally mutilate people who are directly hit with the stuff.
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An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
JERUSALEM, Oct 13 (Reuters) - Human Rights Watch on Thursday accused Israel of using white phosphorus munitions in its military operations in Gaza and Lebanon, saying the use of such weapons puts civilians at risk of serious and long-term injury.
Israel has been bombarding Gaza in retaliation for a Hamas rampage in southern Israeli towns that killed at least 1,300 people this week.
It provided links to two videos posted on social media that it said show "155mm white phosphorus artillery projectiles being used, apparently as smokescreens, marking, or signaling".
Palestinian TV channels have broadcast video in recent days showing thin plumes of white smoke lining the sky over Gaza that they say was caused by such munitions.
Israel's military in 2013 said it was phasing out white phosphorus smokescreen munitions used during its 2008-2009 offensive in Gaza, which drew war crimes allegations from various rights groups.
White phosphorus munitions can legally be used on battlefields to make smoke screens, generate illumination, mark targets or burn bunkers and buildings.
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Damn, I just joined Lemmy and already my block list is greater than it ever was on reddit
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ITT: a bunch of fucktards that don't know the difference between smoke, flare and chemical weapons.
News flash: white phosphorus is used to create smoke and light with no damage to civilians.
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HRW is a organization that does not have a reputation for flying off the handle.
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There is not a single sentence in that article that claims that white phosphorus is used as a weapon. It is used for smokescreens and to mark areas in a war.
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It isn't supposed to be used in densely populated areas because its extremely dangerous. Even if it wasn't intentionally used as a weapon (which it very obviously was), then its still not excusable because it still causes a lot of harm to civilians.
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The issue is that it is not supposed to be used in populated areas because it can still encounter civilians.
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How the fuck are you so god damn stupid that you either aren't aware or don't understand there are secondary effects to the use of White Phosphorus? Saying it isn't being used primarily as a weapon is a sloppy justification for the use of chemical weapons by an organized military that is 1000% aware of the horrific effects of using White Phosphorous where there can obviously be spill over into civilian areas.
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Really living up to the username there.
I have a chisel. It is used for shaping wood. If I stab people with it, it is now a weapon. You can’t say “it’s not a weapon, it’s meant for shaping wood” about the chisel that I used to stab people.
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I could throw a granade right into the town square and tell the cops I was just trying to mark the area. You can choose to believe that I guess but it's a pretty obvious lie since there are methods to mark things that are infinitely less deadly.
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They could use something else, but WP is used as a "marker" for the places they will bomb with explosives, and in doing that, they're still launching WP at the thing they are trying to attack
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Why would you embarrass yourself like this? You didn't have to.
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Username checks out.
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