2d ago

After Rubio seeks to revoke their visas, Chinese students say U.S. resembles the country they left

www.nbcnews.com

“In China, the government can control education, high schools, colleges, universities. We thought that the USA could be different," one student said.

Chinese students say they’re questioning their decision to study in the U.S. after Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced that the federal government will attempt to “aggressively” revoke their visas.

Rubio said Wednesday that Chinese students “with connections to the Chinese Communist Party or studying in critical fields” would be targeted.

Chinese students who spoke to NBC News on Thursday said that they came to the U.S. for freedoms they felt they did not have back in China but that now the Trump administration is starting to resemble the strict regime they left behind.

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Yes, but China is forward looking while doing shitty things. The US is putting it in reverse gear while doing shitty things.
- This is what MAGA means.
  
  Broke: MAGA
  Woke: Maglev

The US speedrunning towards shithole status.
- Turns out a lot of Americans just wanted to live in a shit hole this whole time.
  
  Americans live in a country where people die on the regular because they cannot go to a doctor.
  They regularly have go fund me's to pay for medical treatment.
  They live in a country that has no guaranteed paternity, sick, or vacation time.
  America is a shit hole country with the veneer of being rich.
  To sum it up America is a third world country with a Gucci belt. It has been that way for a while
  
  A lot of those people have lived in shithole states their entire lives. I was speaking with a person from Uganda that would have voted for trump if he could vote. He lives in Washington State. I tried to explain to him that there's a difference between rural Alabama and Seattle, that you get a lot of benefits most states don't get. I don't think he understood the difference.
  
  Americans are drowning in propaganda. They're constantly being sold expensive inferior replacements for any kind of public good or service.
  Nobody wants to live in a shit hole, but when every TV and radio is screaming "Don't trust the government! Privatize! Privatize! Privatize!" that's what people ultimately believe.
  Incidentally, the same news media selling privatization of every aspect of life is the one screaming "People in China are miserable! Everything is awful! Don't be like the gross, stupid, evil Communists!"
  
  Let's not forget the ones who didn't care either way, bcos virtue signalling and all that.
- It's been a steady process since about 1980. People are just now actually realizing it because the shitty policies that they greedily voted for are impacting them too, not just future generations.

are we tired of all this freedom yet Republicans you fucking idiots?
- When they say they want freedom, they mean freedom to be openly racist and such. They're not really interested in freedom in general, they want a strict regime.
  
  "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in an American flag."
  If you just say you believe something enough times, people will start to believe you, even if you haven't done anything to show that you believe it.
  A good example is all of those right wing "free speech warriors" like Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro who only believe in freedom of speech for people they agree with.
- Republicans are like those people that step on the accelerator instead of the break pedal. Then when things start to go horribly wrong, they press harder on that pedal.

Come to Europe for actual freedom

Its like running away from Darth Sidious and then you find a Jedi to save you.
Wait... oh no, not that Jedi
- Should've held out for a Master.

Hegseth said war is imminent. I have no idea is that's true bit this is the sort of thing you do when you expect war is near.
- I've never seen a Republican that didn't want a war.
- That would presume that they have any kind of plan.
  
  Have you forgotten project 2025?
- War is imminent as soon as they figure out how to get there

Insert image of US and China and "they're the same picture" here.
- It's pretty much true, all the US needs now is to match Tienanmen Square next time some peaceful protesters happen :/
  
  all the US needs now is to match Tienanmen Square

I wish, they have all the great manufacturing jobs no one here wants to do.
- Soon, they'll bring all the manufacturing back to America, incarcerate thousands of people for opposing the government, then force those political prisoners to be free slave labor under the 13th Amendment.
- Great manufacturing jobs?
  
  Yeah like the ones Mango Mussolini want to bring back. Where you are nothing more than an automaton getting paid per part made.
- The Chinese international students don’t want those jobs, that’s why they left!
  
  And that's what the idiot in chief wants us to go back to.

A year ago I was seriously thinking that I might want to buy a laptop or a phone that was completely made in the U.S.
- It literally isn’t possible. We don’t mine a lot of the raw materials.
  
  The phone I'm talking about is https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa/ and yeah I guess they're not even claiming that.
  "Starting at $1,999" lol I was out of my fucking mind. Good thing I don't have that kind of monies.

Come to canada
- Weren't we complaining about rich Chinese international students not too long ago? There was a student association president in a university who was of Uygyr decent and got harassed constantly by the Chinese students. I know the US sucks, and we need other partners, but maybe hold off on the open arms invitation to China so we don't end up being screwed by another superpower.
  
  You sound just like trump. I refuse to attack a whole community for the actions of some

Where is all these self righteous pricks that talk about wrong speak?

Having a visa revoked is very different from being thrown into a jail or executed.
They have every right to say that about the US, though, and I am happy they can voice thier opinion. Unlike in China, where the government will happily throw you and your family behind bars for saying something even approaching a bad opinion of government action.
Edit - aww I think I irritated the tankies
- Have you not been watching the news? ICE has been detaining people left and right for months at a time, no charges whatsoever.
  
  Sadly only left. None from there right. If they started detaining their own things might actually change.
  
  I agree it's terrible. Still very far from China.
- Edit - aww I think I irritated the tankies
  Nah, I think you're missing the parts where this is how things go downhill.
  For example:
  very different from being thrown into a jail or executed.
  ICE. Right now.
  They have every right to say that about the US
  People are being rejected at the border for less (and specifically about Israel for now)
  where the government will happily throw you and your family behind bars for saying something even approaching a bad opinion of government action.
  The WH pardoned insurrectionists, is considering pardoning kidnappers, and threatening prosecution whenever someone disagrees with anything they say.
  .... So its not just tankies who will take issue with what you've said, but also those who think people should be treated like people, genocide is terrible, and individual rights and freedoms exist for everyone, and not just the wealthy.
- Unlike in China, where the government will happily throw you and your family behind bars for saying something even approaching a bad opinion of government action.
  Yeah, there have been no repercussions for protesting against Gaza Genocide. /S
- Trump imprisoned a college student for a negative article she wrote about him in her college paper opinion section. How is that any different.
  
  I don't know. How is a puddle different from a flood? They're both water.
- Are you serious?
  They can't voice their opinion.
  If they voice their opinion they get kicked out Even faster, but only after they've been put into a holding cell for days to weeks to months and maybe left to die of exposure for the crime of checks notes exercising the first amendment...
  People in America are being thrown into a gulag with no hope for release to work as slave labor until they die in a foreign country.
  There's no silver lining here. We are becoming more like China. It's not a good thing.
  
  Did you read the article? They're literally voicing their opinion, right there.
  Becoming more like China, sure, but saying that means it's not as bad as China. Not a good thing, I agree.
- Nah.
  The US is a Hybrid Regime in a quick decline into full authoritarianism. Not that much better than China.
  Its hard to dunk on PRC when the USA is also heading towards the same direction. Maybe use the EU for a better comparison next time? (EU has far more freedoms than either USA or China)
  
  So. Still better than China. We agree.
  EU > US > China
- They have every right to say that about the US, though, and I am happy they can voice thier opinion. Unlike in China, where the government will happily throw you and your family behind bars for saying something even approaching a bad opinion of government action.
  I think the concern here could be that revoking visas might be a first step towards a more intolerant policy a la China as referenced above
  
  You're right.
  In the United States, you don't have to even criticize the government to have your whole family thrown behind bars.
  The United States will happily rendition your whole family to the United States Concentration Camps in El Salvador just for being in the United States.
  The United States doesn't imprison the people who hate the country. It imprisons the people who loved the country the most.
  
  Let's hope not!
- You don't need to be a tanki to know how ridiculous your comment is
  
  China is still far worse than the US even under Trump. He's right. All the counter-arguments are that America is headed the way of China. That's true, but we're not there yet.

What a naïve Chinese students: "We hoped that Empire 1 would be very different from Empire 2."
- It used to be. At least in overall principle.

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