GIVE ME EVIL OR GIVE ME DEATH
GIVE ME EVIL OR GIVE ME DEATH
GIVE ME EVIL OR GIVE ME DEATH
I'm surprised no one mentioned the literal gay Satan from powerpuff girls lol
I absolutely would give my soul to him
I dunno... one reason the anti-queer rethoric is so prevalent is because in much media, but mostly comics, theater and movies, there is a tradition of queer-coded-evilness, and often it reads as evil-queerness. Mainly due to the american "code for media decency" preventing potraying queer people in positive light for many years.
This came to associate queerness with perversion and malice and all the prejudice some people still associate gay people with today. And I don't know if media-creators should play into that trope again.
I mean yes, Scar, Jafar and Ursula were resplendend and fascinating in their fabulous evilness. Sophisticated, oozing sexuality, theatrical and intelligent. And that makes them fascinating, wonderful characters but damn... I'm just so fed up with the media vilifying queer- and trans-coding.
And not only that, vilifying intelligence, the dramatic, sexual confidence and sophistication... or just british accents. The 90s Disneys movies were really really bad about all that.
Okay but weve all seen what makes these people cheer, so I dont think i cpuld sleep at night if they didnt think i was evil.
Thankfully it was mainly childrens shows that do this. Grown-up movies were busy doing it to Arabs instead.
Except Bond movies or some Hitchcock's and plenty of others. Queer coding villains is not only cartoon thing. But I don't despite this. I even like, it's ok as long as we can also have gay protagonists (can we?)
Every movie that had Alan Rickman in it ever... it's just more subtle when it's not a cartoon.
she's absolutely Devine
Fun fact, her voice actress in Latin American Spanish is Serena Olvido, a trans Mexican actress and drag queen, who was the sole voice to convince the casting director for the role.
All the best Disney villains are LGBTQ+ coded. Jafar, Ursula, Scar. You could even make a case for Gaston!
Can you explain Jafar to me? Wasn’t his whole thing in Aladdin that he wanted Jasmine?
Queer coding doesn't necessary mean the character has to be queer, they just have to express stereotypical queer attributes, like wearing makeup (check), being sophisticated (check), having a flair (check) for the dramatic (check) being sexually confident (check) or even aggressive (check), displaying style and grace (check) while being intelligent (check) but not physically strong (check). Then there is the typical Disney-villain-physicality which also reads as queer coded, heavy lidded eyes, tightly trimmed beards, long faces (just look at Jafar and Scar next to each other)
In Jafar's case he was animated by an openly gay animator and sang music written by an openly gay lyricist, both visibly had a lot of fun creating this fabulous mess of an evil sorcerer.
While he does seem attracted to Jasmine, he's also very theatrical and campy in a way that was heavily associated with homosmsexuality in the 90s.
I’ve never considered this…
What’s the argument for Gaston though?
Well, Gaston isn't really attracted to anyone but himself. He's a classic narcissist, and his pursuit of Belle is purely to feed his ego. If he could have sex with himself, he would. Vigorously, and somehow selfishly.
Le Fou, on the other hand, is an effeminate sycophant. The live action explicitly makes him gay, but the animated version merely suggests it. Singing about how handsome and manly he is, and how much everybody wants to wrestle with Gaston with the biting and the spitting and the hair-covered inches.
Gaston has a trio of smoking hot blondes that are all over him, but he goes for the bookworm who wants nothing to do with him. He wants a wife who won't care when he goes on extended "hunting trips" with his manly man buddies, not one who will be all over him in the bedroom.
You know... there's an old gay man i know who's always reminded me a little of Scar and I could never quite figure out why.
I want to see more "Benign Queerness"
Its briefly mentioned that the character is gay or bi or trans and then it never comes up again because its not relevant to their job in a hospital/cop/whatever.
I feel like Brooklyn 99 did this well. The chief Captain Holt is a really interesting nuanced character who happens to be gay.
Minor nitpick: he was Captain, not Chief.
And him trying to pass for straight was some of the funniest scenes in the show:
Guard: It just seems like you wanna be with Jamie-Lynn. I mean, you keep talking about her thigh gap.
Captain Holt: That's my favorite part of a woman. There's nothing more intoxicating than the clear absence of a penis.
Kids show, but Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts did that pretty well with one of the main cast
I need every character who is gay to be portrayed as a jellybean-throwing simpleton. That way I know they're gay.
I had a buddy growing up who had a really hard time coming to terms with being gay because he really loved lifting weights, football, dirt bikes and hard rock. He was "One of the boys" in an era when most of the portrayal of gay people in popular media was (and I say this with all love) mostly flamboyant lisping queens.
Fortunately his story had a happy ending, but role models are important.
Magic: tG has a few characters. Comes out as queer in a book, never mentioned on any card except maybe during pride month.
I want to see the waveform of 'wait is this guy oblivious or evil?' Collapse when he does something phenomenally shitty to his boyfriend.
depends on how you view the character but banky from chasing amy
There are two kinds of vampires: aggressively bisexual vampires and shitty vampires
Be a 10 on the be gay do crime scale.
Peter Thiel?
Sam Altman
Interestingly enough...
Hannibal Lecter: Look for severe childhood disturbances associated with violence. Our Billy wasn't born a criminal, Clarice. He was made one through years of systematic abuse. Billy hates his own identity, you see, and he thinks that makes him a transsexual. But his pathology is a thousand times more savage and more terrifying.
Hell yeah!
Queer Villain Pride!
There's every villian in that superboy school anime.
Isn't that what the conservatives are doing constantly?