Why is lemmy so political?!

Life is political, get involved or get out of the way.

If we were blind on the politics / moral eye we'd be on reddit I reckon

Goddamnit. I'm gonna get sooo many reports from this post.

The worst part for me? Fuckin beans.

I don't want to care about politics, but politics keep trying to bust in my door and want to shove itself down my throat like a possessed dildo, so I only be political as self defence.

Your encounters with dildos is much different than mine
- Begun, the Dildo Wars have
- "voodoo dick my ass!" Comes to mind

Because politics impacts your life and everyone around you

everyone here is a leftist nerd, and the united states is at risk of falling under right-wing fascism.

Being against genocide isn't a "political position." It's called "being a decent human being" and you should be against it, no matter who is doing it to who.

Pointing out that Trump is the dumbest, cruelest president that has ever lived isn't a "political position. " It's called "using your fucking eyes and paying attention to what he's doing."

I could go on and on about "things that are more obvious than a sunrise being labeled 'political positions'" but those 2 things could keep us busy for years.

Dumbest? Maybe, but there have definitely been crueler: Andrew Jackson for one.
- Andrew Jackson was the cruelest so far. Give Trump more time to cook and we will see.
It's a political position. You are literally talking about a person in politics, that makes it a political matter. Wow difficult to understand I guess. Speaking about Trump is especially political and jarring
- It's difficult to see how it would be jarring, the guy is the very vocal President of the United States, materially affects quite a few people.
- Incredible. We've found someone more dense than a neutron star.
- Say something non political

The truth is the for a lot of us being here in the first place was a political stance.

Because the sole nature of Lemmy is political. The whole reason it exists is political. People want to move away from tech oligarchs and take control of their own spaces, of their data. Rotting on Reddit while all your data is being harvested and your interactions get turned into shareholder value is very convenient. Being on Lemmy is inconvenient (although it has become less so over the last year). So if you're willing to ditch a very convenient platform because of your beliefs, and move to a platform that aligns more closely with said beliefs, then it's fairly obvious why said platform is so political in nature.

This.
Just from the features and the convenience, Reddit is better. It's bigger, it's got more content, it's easier, it's more stable (or at least used to be). You don't have to worry about your instance going under or anything like that.
The reason for the devs to invest their time to make lemmy and the apps and for admins to invest money and time into hosting and running the instances and for users to use this instead of Reddit is mainly the politics of wanting to have your own space with your own data.
- There's something comical about your discussion around leaving reddit and yet your comment starts like so much reddit trash.
  This.
  This.
  This.

I gotchu, fam

Lemmy has always been this way AFAIK, but let's be honest if there was ever a time that people need to be be aware of politics it's now.

Lemmy is political because you may be into Star trek, you may use Linux, but we are all beholden to corrupt, capitalist oligarchs and billionaires. It's the one true shared interest of everyone here.
- Also Star Trek and FLOSS are both intrinsically political.

Since you brought it up, I finally upgraded to windows 11 and hated it so I switched to Pop! linux since it's good for gaming. So far so good, Proton needs some tweaking on occasion but it's easy to do. Hell Rimworld and Planet Crafter run even better. I haven't tried anything else out yet.

Dude, Proton is so good for 2d gaming. I have, I think, 3X the number of Stardew Valley mods installed than when I had it on Win10. It's at the point where I am deciding on whether to downgrade my Windows SSD and just use it for firmware updates (though I might experiment with running the DualSense tool in wine, instead).
Pop-Os gang!

Reminding that "...there are currently no major left-wing political parties in the country." you Americans have far right or right wing parties, haha losers

Didn't realize this was strictly about the US. Also left and right are relative directions. Something being left of something else. You can endlessly compare apples and oranges if you want, but I don't see the point.

"Can we stop talking about politics for a moment?"

"So, uh, does anyone like Furina from Genshin Impact?"

"HOLY SHIT, okay fine, let's talk politics."

I dunno. I kinda wanna talk about how fucking good the new dark tranquility album is. But i doubt the people on Lemmy have heard anything related to its namesake Lemmy kilmister
Furina is a 10, next question

I mean, politics encompass everything. There is no escape, simply a tolerance for one flavor of politics over another. You may be in a position that views news and opinions as an annoyance, but I'm not free to forget what's at stake.

Only zealots think like this. Politics is not everything, it is a topic like any other. If you can't have a conversation with another person or enjoy an activity without thinking about politics, then you're spending too much time online.
- Only zealots think like this.
  This is the privileged take. So many people don't have the luxury of not paying attention to politics because their very identity and public existence is being outlawed.
- to counter, if you don't think about / or want to think about politics at all, you're probably a willfully ignorant, selfish, asshole.
  politics may not be everything, but everyone is affected by them, whether or not you like it or acknowledge it. If you are socially responsible, you do the bare minimum of acknowledging politics and at least staying somewhat up to date rather than shunning it entirely.
- "Politics is not everything, but anything can be politics." - Chef Gusteau, Ratatoullie
- It's weird to be called zealous.
  Like, I'm just a normal fucking person in a time where people (including children) are getting kidnapped by the government for being brown. Trump pardoned violent criminals and their ring leaders as well as corrupt billionaires while pissing away our tax money into carpet bombing a nation of 48% children.
  Fucking good for you if don't mind the taste of boot, but I'm watching our way of life begin to collapse. Slapping the 'politics' label on it and feels like a load of bullshit.

dude, a lot of us have been banned from reddit for being overtly leftist. its a major reason lemmy even exists.

Good meme!

Answer you probably weren't looking for:

Because while you might not be political, the Nazis are. They're political enough for both of you, actually, and they prefer it that way.

Glossy bean

I’ve touched it
- I've probably licked it

Beans are political if you look at it hard enough.

Also if you look at politics even more it also becomes beans.

Either embrace the absurdity or fight for the right to grow beans on your friend's lakehouse farm while taking your clothes to your mom's house so she can wash them for you.

Wait a minute,its all beans?

Politics of state and business, poor job market prospects, these are the things that we need to solve if we are to truly maximize beantime or beanmaxxing if you will

I have already watched the beanmaxing video
https://youtu.be/QnLds7KHbpE

Even beans are political, mate.

People like to complain, and if you’re even marginally aware of the recent headlines, there’s a LOT to complain about.

Exactly .... I wouldn't be talking about politics if politics had just stayed out of affecting my life in so many stupid, terrible and sometimes horrible ways
I prefer politics remain just plain boring press conferences from a dumb politician trying to figure out how to raise finances to build a highway or fix a bridge or upgrade water services.
- It feels weird to have nostalgia for a time when the corrupt politicians, morally questionable revolutionaries and war crime loving generalissimos of the world at least tried to look respectable on the surface. You know, speak in complete, reasonably complex sentences and all that.
- I'll be honest: I'd probably still be talking about politics. But at least it'd be more confined to appropriate communities rather than spilling over into every aspect of life.

I hate to be that guy, but that is the NCC-1701 Refit, or the NCC-1701 A , not the NCC-1701, and I demand the meme be fixed, preferably by putting the old school enterprise in it.
Edit, this is the refit,
- Im gonna that guy your that guy. If this is the refit it’s still the original enterprise. It’s no different to the ship of Theseus question, if anything it’s simpler than that old canard, so I’d say it’s still the same ship just upgraded.
  The equivalent would be to require all pictures of some actor only be when they were young. I challenge your premise at the axiom here as it’s the same ship just upgraded at a point in time.
- I was wondering if anyone would catch that.
  Lying, I didn't notice.
  And I'm glad you're that guy. We need that guy. Not everybody being that guy. But at least one that guy, to hold things straight and true.

It's pretty easy to filter out most political stuff on Lemmy and Reddit and similar platforms. Just subscribe to communities you like and stay out of All. If I go to All, I know what I'm in for. That's on me.

Respectfully I’d disagree. I can’t scroll through most of my meme or shitposting communities without seeing some politically flavored post, and there’s some kind of political comment on probably 85% of those posts. I get politics is an important topic but people often don’t have the class to keep politics out of the more “fun” communities. I keep to my subscribed list, block the spammers, but it’s fairly pervasive. I suppose that’s not all a bad thing as I get on social media a lot less atm. If you’ve got any additional tips though I’d love to hear them.
- Thunder has keyword filters. These help but aren't perfect.
- If you're using voyager you can filter words out, I've put a lot of the main political words in mine and only the odd one or 2 political posts get through.
- people often don’t have the class to keep politics out of the more “fun” communities
  Smells like "I can't be an asshole here cuz I'll get called out for it"
Same here. If I want to read and argue politics, I click on main. If I want to pass some time and see funny images, I stay on subscribed.

Always hated the subtitles of Jeremy's line here. It's all it italics except the word "like". Suggesting either every word has emphasis except that one word, which is nonsense. Or that the emphasis is on "like", which doesn't work either in this context. Plus I remember this episode, and I'm pretty sure he put emphasis on "I" and "this"…

Jeremy Clarkson:
- Haha, I don't get it. Does she say "I like this"?

Where are the jeans and horses?
- Ed Sheeran riding a horse in Britney's denim dress. His hair is shaped like Saddam. His eyes are two giant beans.

Everything is inherently political and engaging with the world around us is more healthy in the long run.

That’s not public transportation!

It is if you leave the keys in the ignition.

I've started using keyword filters more and more. You'd be surprised how few you need to hide most of the political shouting.

Please provide me with tips!
- "Slammed" and other hyperbolic words would probably be a good filter tbh. But politics words aren't too hard to concieve.
  President, DEI, Tarriff, administration, immigration, controversial, budget
  Just to name a few.

insert [at this point I'm afraid to ask] meme

what is the "beans" thing?

Examples
https://lemm.ee/post/686310
https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/post/582011
If you look up beans you'll find a period of time where literally every meme were about beans
That and jeans for some reason
- Ahh good times gooood times
- Vans (shoes and vehicles, yes) also have had their time in the sun

if you look at lemmy,ml, grad, and hexbear yea its super political. and then you have .world politics too.

A real human bean

Is it?

I have no idea, I blocked everything I could by keyword just like I did with Reddit. I don't even get news here unless it's tech-related, just dogs, memes, and shitposts.

Preach, my friend. It is actually the main reason I'm considering deleting my profile because part of the reason I left mainstream social media was to get away from politics and ideological lunatics, but this platform is fucking full of both. Even after filtering out as much of it as possible. Its like a cancer, spreading to every forum page on here.

Is there anywhere on the internet where people are just focusing on hobbies and interests that aren't mired in hatred and aggression?

You can just browse your subs, you don't have to browse All.
- Technology and memes also frequently lead to political topics.
- Even after filtering out as much of it as possible. Its like a cancer, spreading to every forum page on here.
  That also goes for the forums I have subbed to.
I mean, even work is politics, wages and safety and benefits.
Going shopping is political. Prices are directly tied to politics.
Need to replace broken electronics? Welp, tariffs and its 200% the original cost.
Everything is politics, its impossible to avoid.
Done hobby? Hey what do you know, DJI is soon about to be banned in the USA for perceived "nationak security" issue. Politics.
Want to jerk off? Welp your state banned porn because it went againt some religion. Politics here again.
Lets just eat food. Oh no, the food regulators got fired because of "wokeness" and now you get food poisoning. Politics.
- This is like saying that everything is religious and that everyone is religious and then making arguments for why everything can be turned into religious doctrin.
  You're technically not wrong if you choose to have that lens on for everything, but it is a very limiting way of viewing the world and to someone like me, borderline madness.
  It is also more of an uhm actually argument rather than engaging with the point I was making that I think most of us are aware of. When someone says they would like to avoid politics they are more often than not referring to the aggressive and argumentative stupidity that occurs between people when certain inflamed topics - usually current events in politics - are brought up. It is pretty easy to discern that from anyone who says "can we just not talk about politics right now?"
  Much like dicks and religion, some people just don't want that shit shoved down their fucking throats constantly because it is rarely if ever productive and beneficial to anyone. It is, at most a passing contest or an attempt to shame and attack people who sees the world differently from yourself.
Yes, in subforums of classic style internet forums. For example, the "DIY & Hobbies" or "Creativity & Art" subforums of Knockout
- I'll try and check it out when I have the time to dive in. I'm honestly leaning more and one toward just cutting the chord and not using the internet for anything other than work related stuff and watching youtube on the DuckDuckGo player. The current state of the internet is for bots and hysterical political people and I'm honestly over it at this point. Even on this knockout place from the brief glance I had, it also looked like a very political place so eh.
Awwwww, does the privileged baby not like seeing that the world sucks?
Too fucking bad, whiner
- The world does not suck, you are just a negative nancy