"Linux Desktop: A Collective Delusion" - an unhinged rant
"Linux Desktop: A Collective Delusion" - an unhinged rant
Linux has made significant strides, and in 2023, it’s better than ever. However, there are still individuals perpetuating a delusion: that desktop Linux is as user-friendly and productive as its mainstream counterparts. After a few discussions on Lemmy, I believe it’s important to provide a clear review of where Linux falls short as a daily driver for average users.
EDIT: can I just make it clear I don't agree with this article one bit and think it's an unhinged polemic?
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Linux desktop will, most likely, fail for: [...]
- Developers and sysadmins, because not everyone is using Docker and Github actions to deploy applications to some proprietary cloud solution. Finding a properly working FTP/SFTP/FTPS desktop client (similar WinSCP or Cyberduck) is an impossible task as there a few, but they all fail even at basic stuff like dragging and dropping a file.
This can't be serious.
This one too:
Linux desktop will, most likely, fail for:
People that just installed a password manager (KeePassXC) and a browser (Firefox/Ungoogled) via flatpak only to find out that the KeePassXC app can’t communicate with the browser extension because people are “beating around the bush” on GitHub instead of fixing the issue;
Desktop Linux is a failure because this one specific thing doesn't work right now in only the Flatpak version of this one specific application. Good thing every Windows app has 100% functionality and works perfectly as soon as it's released lol.
lol - let's also ignore the other installation methods of keepassxc that work for this specific use case
Also I'm not sure why it doesn't work, but if it's just a file access thing (which is usually the issue for me whenever a flatpak is acting up) then it's like one toggle in Flatseal to unfuck it lol.
Because... it’s NOT just a file access thing. There are dozens of issues discussion that problem - that affects other browser extensions that also need to communicate other desktop apps - and no universal solution. Not even a working solution in most cases.
More info here: https://lemmy.world/comment/4678009
What if you wanted to use 1pass or LastPass? They work flawlessly as browser extensions.
+1 for bitwarden!
Didn't even see this part. Sure. Scp, a native Linux tool, has no gui. A sysadmin that can not use a console is no sysadmin. What a piece of bullshit
It's true, this has been an issue that has stumped developers and sysadmins for decades. They cannot function without WinSCP!
This author be trollin.
Like I can't remember the last time I actually needed an FTP client, but FileZilla was fine on Linux a decade ago, I can't imagine it's got worse
I'm just connecting to FTP directly from Nautilus, it's so user friendly it feels like I'm cheating.
Same with Nemo
Same with Dolphin. It can even remember credentials in a safe manner in KWallet.
I just use Dolphin.
I've been using FileZilla as an SFTP client for well over a decade, so imagine my surprise to learn that it's impossible. All these years I've been fooling myself. Time for some soul searching.
Typical problem of switching OS and keeping the same aproache to using it. In little defence of that statement, Linux file managers don't really announouce support for ftp and ssh inside them. There usually is Network tab that lists Network drives. Samba and media devices, forgot name of protocol, but ftp and SSH is a bit hidden in address bar.
I was about to quote the same.
... I mean, when you're this clueless, maybe don't put out 'articles' for others to read -- it's wasting everyone's time.
I thought the title of this article was intriguing; because in the Linux community certain aspects of the desktop experience do get hyped; & there's a tendency in general to sweep various usability issues under the rug, with the unwarranted confidence that we're already "better than everyone else" in every way; though the article doesn't address any of those.
I mean, sshfs is RIGHT THERE.
...Im in sysadmin and github actions are like, 90% of my job.
And filezilla works like a charm. The fuck are they talking about.
I've tried software development in Windows multiple times, last time for over a year. It feels like trying to code with broken fingers. WSL makes it tolerable, but I don't think that counts as developing in Windows anymore.
Yes this article is absolute trash
Not sure why my post was downvoted so much, just wanted us all to enjoy laughing at its absurdity
FTP / SFTP and pretty much all of the transfer protocols are already built into every file manager in Linux. Who's going to need a separate client for that?
Yeah, Linux developers are slaves to proprietary cloud solutions. That's definitely a rational claim.
Most desktop environments I've used already have ftp support in their file browser anyway, you don't need a separate client