Republicans Started a Civil War They Don’t Know How to End
Republicans Started a Civil War They Don’t Know How to End
Knocking off Speaker candidates is easy, but electing one is impossible so far.
House Republicans haven’t been terribly successful at many things this year. They struggled to keep the government open and to keep the United States from defaulting on its debt. They’ve even struggled at times on basic votes to keep the chamber functioning. But they have been very good at one thing: regicide.
On Friday, Republicans dethroned Jim Jordan as their designated Speaker, making him the third party leader to be ousted this month. First, there was Kevin McCarthy, who required 15 different ballots to even be elected Speaker and was removed from office by a right-wing rebellion at the beginning of October. Then, after a majority of Republicans voted to make McCarthy’s No. 2, Steve Scalise, his successor, a number of Republicans announced that they, too, would torpedo his candidacy and back Jordan instead. Finally, once Republicans finally turned to Jordan as their candidate, the largest rebellion yet blocked him from becoming Speaker. After losing three successive votes on the floor, the firebrand lost an internal vote to keep his position as Speaker designate on Friday.
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politics is ALWAYS TRASH its like red team go, no fuck you blue team go, have a pair of balls and realize they are playing you like a fiddle, the only answer is the rare as fuck middle ground and no one since ross perot even tried, 3% isnt gonna do it and you see now why the red team blue team strategy has survived so long, people are stupid and want to pick a side before even realizing what that side stands for, blue team is all about fucking normal people for profit and sticking in trendy gay black men wherever they think they can get the most political leverage from inserting them in that role, red team is all about being an asshole to anyone not on their "side" and pretending to care about the masses all while passing shitty bills that only make the rich get richer, wake the fuck up america you been geeting played like a pu nk bitch the whole time the minute you picked a "side" its all the same side punk , and you wanna know the fucked up part, im a veteran for usa, i still do not stand behing the political fuckery going on and MOST DO NOT, open your eyes and read or talk to people from different states and regions, if you live die and only exist in one area you have zero right to judge another
Your first comment ever and you're going to "both sides" this? Good luck.
sorry im not stupid enough to decide all of my future decisions based on a "side" grow up man
Steps to forum posting:
- Side with your favorite
- Realize both sides are kindof shitty <-- You are here
- Realize that despite both sides being kindof shitty, one side is definitely careening off the side of a cliff and trying to take everyone with them
I'm sorry, but you could not be more wrong.
Democrats believe, truly believe, in a functional Democracy and Republicans believe, truly believe, that government does not, cannot, and should not function.
If you doubt this, I'll point you to the stated goal of noted Republican lobbiest Grover Norquist who famously stated:
Following that, he proceeded to get 238 Congressmen and 41 Senators to sign "The Pledge" and they have been operating under that guideline ever since.
https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/norquists-tax-pledge-what-it-is-and-how-it-started
So don't come in here with your "both-sidesisms". It's bullshit and everyone here knows it.
The last thing we need right now is a 'middle ground' between the far right party and the center right party.
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The 1790s?
What is the middle ground between freedom and fascism?
Maybe they just want a little fascism, perhaps on alternate Tuesdays?
Whatever it may be, I don't want it. I want freedom, and by that I mean - freedom to be happy and free from persecution from any other individual or group. That freedom which we are all guaranteed by our Constitution.
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Perhaps you missed this part; "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Which cannot happen without implicit freedom from prosecution. And anyone who would WISH to live in a world where these rights aren't guaranteed and upheld, is a very mentally ill and sick person indeed. And that's inarguable.
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Ohhh aren't you all scary with your four letter words and inability to understand the Constitution. Pathetic wimp is what you truly are. You know where you can shove your opinions because that's exactly how much they are worth to me.
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Because (and I realize this is difficult for your neanderthal mind to comprehend) I'm NOT wrong, and I will double down on that every time. And because it makes me glad to know I get under the skin of people like you, so I'll always reinvest in the needles I need to do so. I already know what your response is going to be, word for word.
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So, "wake up sheeple", basically?
I used to think this way, in part bc there's an aspect of this that is obviously true - conservatives and liberals from many states are not all that far apart. However, I do think we've crossed over into dangerous territory here, to the point where politics are not "merely" shitty as usual, but actually ends. It's like the difference between people who as they get older feel back pain, vs. outright dying. That is normal too I suppose, though it is our duty to be as diligent as possible to delay that eventual outcome for as long as possible.
I keep thinking like, if the question is "what is 1+1?", then Democrats will say -100000, then give contracts to the corps that bribed them, and while in the past Republicans might have done similarly, now they will pull out a gun and shoot you in the head (as their way of answering the question).
Thank you for your service. Indeed we all need to struggle as best we can to open our eyes to what is going on, bc it's not pretty. This nation that you tried to serve is hurting.