Or occasionally "God damn Russians/Chinese" π
Or occasionally "God damn Russians/Chinese" π
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I don't think many even know what a communist is or what communism is about. it just makes them feel upset when they hear the word because of constant corporate mass media conditioning.
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US-americans: "Communism is when the government does things. The more things it does the communistier it gets."
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Communism is the government owning the means of production. Socialism is the people owning the means.
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Socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. Communism is a post-socialist mode of production where all of production has been collectivized globally, the commodity form fully abolished, etc.
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I think Americans are well past the point of blaming this on communism.
There's still a kinda fear of "socialism" and other stuff as specters, but it's internal. I don't think many here are looking at shit that's going down locally and saying "...Damn Russkies." I haven't seen that once IRL since like 2016. Even mega Trumpers I know are looking inward (at Democrats); that's kinda the point of the movement, and those I knew who were a little Cold War nostalgic have, sadly, passed away.
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then lemmy is sampling all the stupidest libs to me, because blaming russians and chinese for their problems with trump and capitalism is the most common argument in lib lemmy posts and accounts.
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Yeah, Lemmy does not represent the average liberal in the US, not even close.
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excuse me? both parties ran an explicitly sinophobic campaign, not once have the politician or their voting base looked inwards.
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Nah.
Look at everyone attacking Mamdani, ethno fascists, techbros, liberals...
Its pretty much all 'he is a big bad scary communist.'
He is of course not actually a communist, but even an actual socdem is so far to the left of the American Overton Window, the only vocab words that exist are 'commie! socialist! which are the same thing, or something!'
Granted, the fact that Mamdani has significant public support means that there are more Americans who are more left-wing ... but the actual Dem leadership, as with Bernie, cannot countenance losing their corpo megadonors, so they pull out the stops for anything left of ... rainbow capitalism.
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You have Trump doing Hitler 2.0 electric boogaloo and Bernie call it Stalinist cult come one
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin%27s_cult_of_personality
It's not a great analogy, to be fair, but I don't think Bernie was trying to single out Stalin, who did indeed have an unwaveringly loyal following, to the point of being problematic.
Again. It is not really about Russia.
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I donβt think many here are looking at shit thatβs going down locally and saying ββ¦Damn Russkies.β
What? "Damn Russkies!" is like the number one thing hardcore Democrat supporters blame for the state of the US
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Then what's all the China rhetoric about
Though to be fair I think it has died down a bit
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My neighbor blames every current problem on democrats by saying "they are communist" as his main point.
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I wish they were, they aren't cool enough.
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Excuse me?? How could you not notice all the Russophobia and Sinophobia? The russophobia crap got really bad when Russia finally decided to do something about the Nazi Regime in Ukraine propped up by the US empire in 2014
The anti-china crap has been present for years now
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My blunt observation. People here in the US don't care.
They voted a somewhat pro-Russian, Ukraine isolationist into power, and didn't give a shit. Trump flip flopped, and they didn't give a shit about that either. It didn't move approval ratings one. Hair.
So you can keep saying the Big Bad American People have it out for Russia, that they cheer on Ukraine from their TVs. But on the ground here? They do. Not. Care. Frankly, if they were more educated, my racist family would bucket both Ukrainians and Russians as "white" and be largely indifferent to the war, as it's not happening on US soil. They liked Trump reaching out to Putin for a peace deal. What keeps them up at night is brown people flooding over the border, tearing down Seattle or whatever Fox or Rumble is blaring. Or, more realistically, our country teetering on Civil War from internal polarization. Not China or Russia vs Ukraine or Taiwan.
So you can blame the not-quite-extinct neolibs and the government, I guess, but:
Russophobia and Sinophobia
IRL, as much as people (bots?) banter online, I have not personally heard one peep about Russophobia in years. We just aren't that educated on foreign policy, nor into it like the Bush era. And the Sinophobia stops at "deport the foreign asians."
Again, this is not my opinion or personal belief. Just my observation from the US.
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βIs like North Koreaβ
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From which movie is this?
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It looks like Battle Royale
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Come off it, capitalism is just USAian culture.
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American Logic:Nazis were communists, Chinese are communists, USSR was communists, we are good everyone else is bad.
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PRC and USSR yes, Nazis no, the US is absolutely the worst Empire on Earth.
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From which movie is this?
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And what is capitalism, or communism, or socialism? I feel like there are different definitions of those things.
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Capitalism is a mode of production largely defined as one where private ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and commodity production is the main form.
Socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect, and is more planned and controlled.
Communism is a post-socialist, global system that is fully collectivized and planned.
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Pretty sure a large chunk of Americans think that Russia is still communist.
The Russiagate libs who hold signs at protests that associate Trump with a hammer and sickle definitely still do.
One of the most hilarious things of late has been libs, who see themselves as a paragon of rationality, expose that they're just a different flavor of qAnon.
If they aren't, who's been pointing brain rays at me this whole time?
Don't have to be communist to do that