The most powerful man in the House doesn't like divorce
Speaker Mike Johnson has been talking about it for decades, and now he’s got a larger audience.
Oh yeah? Well he can go fuck himself. It's none of his business what married couples decide. Fuck him and his fascist religion. Edit: spelling
*about to be formerly married
If you're a woman and vote to put any Republican in power in this country, no matter how small or local, you must be insane.
From the conservative women I know, it's because they don't think these Draconian laws will ever apply to them...which is just characteristic of them.
They don't think abortion should be legal because they can control their own sexual activities. If women (i.e. slutty liberals) want to have sex then they should be punished blessed with a child.
Women conservatives are just conservatives. They don't think the law will apply to them.
...or hoping that backing/marrying a powerful man will mean the leopards won't eat YOUR face.
Evidently, they'll just abuse it to death rather than eating it.
I get your point, but let's not imply that it's only women's job to vote Republicans out. Policies detrimental to women diminish and damage the whole country and that's everyone's responsibility.
or indoctrinated
Oh, I dunno. Maybe I want white, christian men to tell me what I can and can't do.
/s I'm a man.
He doesn't like divorce because he doesn't want to be single. His wife didn't even show up to his event.
Someone actually married this guy?
She's exhausted from being on her knees praying. Or something. It was quite a bizarre comment he made.
More like he's closeted and she's too busy getting railed by the mail man to bother going to his events. When people are this anti gay, I just know it's because they hate something about themselves and are projecting it on everyone else.
Holy shit hahahaha. What a loser
I still run into men all the time that lament no fault divorce as being one of the worst things that ever happened in this country (along with Roe and women being able to have their own bank account/credit line, of course).
Please refer them to this comment next time you run into them:
Y'all are some punk ass bitches. Grow up and stop being a weak-kneed, cowardly, controlling asshole. If you want someone to love you, then be worthy of their love.
They don't want to br worthy of love, they just want someone they can fuck and control that's it. If it was about wanting love they'd change their mindset for the better.
They just want someone that takes care of them unconditionally. Just like their mum probably used to do. Some men are so fucking clueless when it comes to the basics of housekeeping. I'm glad my father set the correct example for me, as I now try to do for my kid.
When a woman has had it with the big baby and goes her own way, the adult toddler is left to his own devices and blames all his shortcomings on the ex-wife and the invention of divorce. (Or probably abortion because they know having kids is another way to anchor the wife to them.)
They don't want to br worthy of love, they just want someone they can fuck and control that's it. If it was about wanting love they'd change their mindset for the better.
I didn't like divorce either until I understood why my parents got one.
Yeah I didn't get it when I was a kid, but turns out my mom was a fucking lunatic so 👍
And guess when he started ranting about it?
Old cranky cons have been bitching about this for nearly as long as I can remember. Hell, the Birchers probably claimed it was a Communist plot, just like every other social change for the better.
I think more prominent wingnuts are now saying the misogynist stuff out loud, and with a platform - and not getting shut down/filtered by others now, is all. They don't have to meet in small groups IRL or stand on the corner handing out pamphlets any more.
Einstein was wrong. Time travel has to be possible. I came here expecting ppl to pile onto the guy. Instead, I get debates about divorce like it was 1855!
You Americans are a wild bunch, I tell ya.
And to the people about to comment that I should not inject myself into debates into U.S. politics as foreigner: I'll stop that the moment this community gets renamed to USpolitics.
'Murican here. Given that our politics are absolutely fucked, I'd say keep the constructive foreign insight coming.
Of course, the moment the constructive criticism is only coming from the outside will be when it gets labeled as foreign manipulation to further cement tribalistic mentality and provide fresh out-groups to hate and fear.
It's one dude arguing with everyone else.
It does America no good to constantly have our heads so far up or collective rectum that we forget the are 190ish other countries with different, often successful ideas. But we have grown up being taught American exceptionalism and manifest destiny - I remember sections of our history book titled the same and it was either presented without critique or the critique was subtle enough that it went over our heads.
I'm just explaining that quite a lot of us believe we are literally the best country in the world and dismiss other countries without thought. Ironic that we call ourselves a melting pot of the best of every culture. Anyway, it's useful to have people come in and go, "y'all are a bunch of nutbags." Because we are, and perhaps we are exceptional in that way.
I don't recall being taught that in school.
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community gets renamed to USpolitics.
You can stop doing that now. You don't need to wait to other people accommodate your threats.
Wow yeah must be a surprise to learn that a nation of over 280 million people from diverse backgrounds don’t share the exact same opinion on a topic. Crazy that our social media platforms doesn’t act as an echo chamber serving to reinforce your beliefs in particular…
This is very on brand for republicans. It is part of the overall plan to create Gilead (that SHOULD be an exaggeration but... if anything it is an understatement). The idea being that women are property.
And plenty of others. The goal is to make women property that can't escape or ever say no.
And the idea of a man wanting to leave a woman? Just kill the bitch and get a new wife. Or fuck your daughter.
Under his eye.
Why is it anytime one of these republicans opens their mouth I know they’re going to say something infuriatingly regressive, backwards, and going to try to fuck someone over with their view?
I think you just defined conservatism.
Because they only get famous enough to get votes by being outrageous enough to score headlines.
They're very similar to the Taliban in that regards.
The great thing about democracy is that you can have a personal opinion about a particular issue, and still defend the rights of people to act in opposition to your opinion, because those actions do not infringe on the rights of anyone else.
Unfortunately (yes, I am about to say it again), the House is controlled by the American Fascist Party.
Whose leader has been Thrice divorced...
And he's definitely paid for abortions even though he won't admit it.
America is fascinating. Just a giant church of hypocrisy with a tonne of guns
It all makes a lot of sense when you realize that the pilgrim fathers didn't travel to America to be free from persecution, but mostly to be free to persecute.
Love your username btw. You should really join the Thread where you post AI generated images using only your username as the prompt 😄
Oh lord. I don't wanna see that hahah
The most powerful man in the House doesn't like
divorcewomen
Yeah he’s a giant piece of shit. He better hope he doesn’t end up on https://gayhomophobe.com after getting caught with a rent boy. The louder someone hates and complains, the more they have to hide.
Just fucking end marriage. It's fucking archaic. When two people become partners they enter a business partnership . That's it. It should be treated as such.
That feels sad lol. People like marriage because it feels good and it's romantic. It's not supposed to be a business partnership.
Lemmy man. We need more normies here.
A wedding and a relationship doesn't require endorsement by the government. Go have a ceremony, grow old together, but you don't need your local county clerk having a say in it.
Had me in the first half
I happen to agree, me and my wife lived together for years before getting paperwork done. Just finally had to do it, it is just too much work otherwise. From insurance, to property, to inheritance, to medical decisions. A justice of a peace simple thing.
We should end the legal institution of marriage. It literally only provides two benefits: you can pool income for tax purposes, and you can share health insurance. Both of those items could easily be addressed without marriage, especially if we had universal healthcare or if you could add a partner to your health insurance like you can with car insurance.
Meanwhile, marriage in it's current form means that the state decides how much of your retirement savings you get to keep when your partner decides to leave you or you decide to leave your partner. It's the worst financial decision that it is possible to make to ever marry someone outside of your class because of that risk, and that risk sucks the joy and romance out of the whole thing.
If you want to have a fairy tale wedding or an important religious ceremony, go for it, but there is zero reason to get the government involved at all anymore.
That's not true. There are plenty of other legal rights marriage conveys such as power of attorney and child custody.
You can also sponsor for immigration.
Imagine all of the right wingers who will take that talking point and run with it to justify banning gay marriage.
"Well, y'all don't even think marriage should be a fuckin' institution so why should you be allowed to do it? Hyuck hyuck hyuck"
With divorce rates and the view on marriage not being great, we might finally go back to the “business partnership” it was before. Thank god.
the united states sucks ass
Who cares what he thinks? He can go pound sand.
The latest episode of the Know Your Enemy podcast had some interesting words about why the republican party can't govern or correct itself in the final ~10 minutes of the episode. I didn't get to finish because of life stuff, so I rewound to re-listen later today (awake with insomnia rn, not ready to digest).
Sorry for this empty post where I didn't convey their ideas. It was something about campaign finance and how McCain / Feingold created a channel for the worst (like Gaetz) to act like shitheads.
People shouldn't be forced to be trapped in their shitty marriages if they don't want to be, and not everyone needs a reason to fall out of love, or to realize they were never in love, sometimes it just happens, love is just brain chemistry and the focus of that love tends to change over your lifetime, so divorces shouldn't need to be proven, all a divorce should need is one side calling it quits on the marriage, and we all should learn to respect that.
Fuck off
Found the abuser
Yeah, that's not the job of the government. While I agree that the divorce rate in the country is surprisingly high and I personally think that's a bad thing, one partner should not be trapped in a relationship they want out of because "they're not allowed out". If either side of a relationship wants to end it, that's their right.
A judge should not have to determine if a reason is "good enough". And despite religious beliefs, from the government's perspective, marriage is a 2 sided contract that can be ended at will.
If your church or personal beliefs say otherwise, that's up to them. Keep it out of my government.
What a shitty take
What the actual fuck? "Deserve"?
Setting aside the moral argument, if you look at countries without no-fault divorce, this is just stupidly impractical.
Let me guess, you think the war on drugs has been super effective too?
War on drugs has been super successful in creating stronger drugs so smaller amounts need to be hidden when smuggling.