Gettin real goddamn tired of dogs

I'm a dog owner and dog people have made me hate people 😂

I love dogs too but I agree, something went very very VERY wrong in the last few years. I can't remember exactly when this illuminati memo went into effect but there was a month where every single place suddenly had a "service dogs welcome" sign on the door, which was different from the "service dogs permitted" signage that was always there. The signs came with some kind of policy change that basically said service dogs are a social construct, so even a screaming husky that needs to be dragged behind it's owner is a service dog if the owner says it is.

And on the subject of huskies, the thing that pisses me off the absolute most about modern dog owners is how they have this obsession with pure bred dogs to the point where they'll pay thousands for their favourite breed and turn it into their personality. But they don't give a shit about any aspect of the dog besides it's appearance, like they don't even google search the history of why the breed was created, or what it's nature is intended to be. So they get a German Shepherd, which is a guard dog, and they don't understand why it won't stop barking at guests. Or they get a husky, a dog bred to love running dozens of kilometres per day, and they can't get it to stop running out the door. "Walks" aren't enough for a dog like that, it will always be hyper no matter how much you scream at it. AND THEY'RE MEANT FOR FUCKING ANTARCTICA HOW DO YOU THINK IT FEELS LIVING IN AN APARTMENT IN BURBANK CALIFORNIA? It's straight up cruelty to animals.

Which is without even considering the health issues that these dogs have to suffer through due to being severely inbred. It makes no sense to me that people do this. I don't even buy a pair of shoes without researching what the differences are between types of shoes and what situations different shoes are designed for. These people spend $5k on a living thing without a millisecond of thought put into it.

I agree, mostly.

My parents owned a kennel and bred and boarded and trained dogs, so we had at least a dozen or so full-time residents and generally another dozen or so being boarded and/or trained. I literally grew up surrounded by dogs and I've always loved them.

BUT, dog owners, at this point, are fucking awful, and that's led to a whole lot of awful dogs, exactly as you so colorfully and accurately say.

I’m a dog owner but I agree. The worst are the people who bring them in the grocery store. Like if you’re out walking the dog and go in a convenience store for a drink that’s one thing but there’s fresh vegetables and stuff in the grocery store instead of prepackaged food so pets definitely don’t belong there. These same people don’t clean up their poop even at the dog park so before I can play with my own dog I have to go hunting and clean up so I don’t get crap on my shoes.

Us responsible dog owners are tired of this crap too.

I spent the last 3 months reporting my neighbor for letting her dog roam off leash and bark into my bedroom point blank. She threatened to sue me and im like you can't sue me for calling animal control you dumb entitled bitch 🤣

I absolutely love dogs and I have one.

I absolutely completely agree with everything you have said here. None of those behaviors should be appropriate.

It sounds a lot more like you are actually tired of inconsiderate dog owners.

I have a dog. I think he's great. I also realize that not everyone feels the same and I don't bring him to places that are not acceptable for him to be. I also watch him when I am out walking him and do my best to make sure that he doesn't approach people who may not want that kind of attention.

As a dog owner.. I couldn't agree more.

I took a package in for my neighbour because they were out.. Took it round in the evening and their little dog ran out and immediately jumped at my hand and bit me.. "oh sorry he's just defending his home"

Won't be accepting anymore packages for them

Show me a bad dog; I'll show you a bad owner.

Untrained dogs while you're out on a run is another level of hell. & there are so many!

It got a lot worse since covid. A lot of people who shouldn't have dogs got dogs during the lockdowns.

Before covid most people in the forest I go to were regulars. By looking around the parking lot I knew who was there. There was only one person with 2 untrained & unleashed dogs who would come there daily. He always did the same tour, so if I saw his car I'd go the same tour to avoid him.

Now it's completely different. I never see those regulars again, except for that one person who still goes the same tour. Everytime I go there I come across different people. The one thing they have in common is that they leave their dogs unleashed and their dogs don't listen.

I really miss the calm walks I could have in that forest. If I went for a walk during noon or in bad weather, I would usually be the only person around. Now I can't remember the last time I didn't come across an untrained dog during my walk.

I'm scared of dogs because I've been attacked by one before. I have a trauma reaction to them essentially. I wish more people understood this and were at least considerate of the idea that people have valid reasons for not wanting dogs in their space. I don't care that your dog is awesome or whatever the fuck justification you want to use for being inconsiderate of others, my nervous system is terrified of it. I especially dislike people who walk their dogs off leash in busy areas.

I have very low expectations for dogs. I expect them to act like dogs. My expectations of people are higher.

I think you are okay with dogs, it's shitty people you have a problem with.

As a dog person, I totally get this. I like dogs, I'd generally rather spend time with a dog than a person. But I'm under no impression it's my child. I don't get this "furbaby" bullshit, you're an adult human, act like one. The dog will survive 10 minutes without you in constant contact, if it can't, then it's a neurotic fucking mess and you should maybe find another breed.

Gotta hand it to you man, very few posts have belonged in this community more than this one

I completely agree, the problem is the people who refuse to train them, as though enforcing behavioral expectations is a bad thing.

My friend let's her dogs run absolutely wild, they have absolutely no respect for people, they sniff their crotches, rub up against them, beg while eating.

The daughter will have one of the dogs flipped in her lap and will literally be popping a zit on its back while you're at the dinner table trying to eat.

One of her other dogs will be biting you in the dick because it's trying to get you to feed it.

And when you shoo the dog away because it's literally sexually assaulting you while you're trying to eat, you're the asshole.

I love dogs, I have one, but I agree. What bothers me the most is that here people leave their dogs in their front yard, so they bark whenever someone or something happens. And it seems that barks only bother me, because everybody leave their dogs barking day and night. I hate dog owners.

I love dogs but when I was NYC I couldn't wrap my head around why there were so many dogs in Manhattan. My dogs need space and room to run around which isn't something Chelsea Village et al. are known for.

Where do you live that people bring dogs into restaurants?

Add "people who don't f-ing care to clean up after their dogs" to that list.

Man, I love dogs, I've had dogs my whole life. BUT I COMPLETELY AGREE: dogs in supermarkets, dogs in restaurants - fuck that, if it's not a genuine service animal fuck off with that bullshit. Dogs do not belong where food is stored or prepped.

I'd agree that it's inconsiderate to bring an untrained dog into situations where they may cause problems, and I'd even extend this to say that it's inconsiderate to not train your dog properly. My experience is that a well-trained dog is happier - as the owner, you should be squarely in charge, and you need to help your dog understand which behaviors are acceptable and which are not.

A well-trained dog, on the other hand, should be possible to put most if not all social situations. They do not treat the wrong places as bathrooms, they do not make sounds, they do not eat things they have not been given permission to eat, and they do not greet anyone that hasn't invited them to greet.

I believe that dogs trained to this level should be allowed in restaurants, offices and shops.

I feel the exact same way with the exact same feedback to parents. I am tired of people's shitty kids running around, crawling on floors, looking at me in public, screaming and crying for no discernible fucking reason... I think we need to look at building segregated places for parents and animal owners and those of us that are one or the other and not interested in interactions with the opposite side.

Because it's the internet, I will clarify that this is partially a joke. It's also partially not a joke. And I apologize as a owner of multiple dogs for the experiences that you were having. That doesn't sound like something that's going to make anybodys day any better.

Personally, I keep my dogs at home unless I'm doing something like going hiking or out to the lake or somewhere else that seems like a reasonable place to bring an animal. Certainly not somewhere that's going to have their hair flying in the air and getting into people's foods or drinks or anything like that.

Thinking about it, I treated my kid the same way when they were first born...

I feel you OP. I have sensitive skin and can get hives from just having fur brush against me. People walking unleashed dogs in my apartment complex are infuriating. "Oh he's friendly, he won't bite, don't worry". Yeah, no, I just don't like dogs touching me. And I don't like your dogs paws on my clothes after it was running around wherever. It's on the dog owners 100% though. Dogs are just being who they are. It's dog owners who don't have any etiquette when in public. I can have a longer rant here on actual things that happened in my apartment complex, but I'll save that for next time.

Our neighbours across the road let their dogs roam; one has nipped at a neighbour's visitor; they occasionally get out as a pack and topple garbages down our street. One of them poops on our lawn at night. They had a year-long ban on getting any more dogs and some taken away, but that's expired. They've taken to letting cats (in)breed this past year, three litters in the past year. One kitten got run over last week, since they're all allowed to roam free and obviously are foraging for food.

The owners are totally negligent and we wish they would get a perma-ban from Animal Services... or at least required to gate and fence properly.

It’s a regional thing. Last place I lived in a small town and the dogs there were poorly trained and always unleashed and I stopped running for that reason. “Oh he doesn’t bite, hahahaha, only snap a little “

Now I live in a bigger city and the dogs are well behaved, leashed or not. Regularly there are groups with a dog trainer. That really makes a difference.

I've rarely seen this. I have seen some inconsiderate things like people thinking they could bring their "purse dogs" in Dollar Tree? But I've never been to anyone's house where the dog is just allowed to steal food, or jump on people, etc. Other than a few well-behaved service dogs in my lifetime, I've never seen a dog in a restaurant. That's not legal. I've heard of people acting like ESAs have public access, but I've never actually seen it.

Not unpopular with me, I'm fully on board with what you are saying and really dislike the animals and the owners. Letting them into anywhere selling food really is not fucking acceptable.

…Chandler?

I blame the big pet supply stores in the US for normalizing bringing your dog into a store. It was there first, then people started bringing them into the big box home improvements stores - sure the floor is unfinished concrete and everything is hardy so it doesn't seem like much, but it's creeping change. Now I see them in almost any sort of store. I don't care for it.

Also - why isn't there a proper certification/accreditation for proper service animals? Like the ones with extensive training? Someone's untrained anxiety comfort animal or whatever gets treated the same as a trained-from-puppy seeing eye dog?

We keep our dogs at home mostly. Other than necessary things like vet trips, we walk them in the neighborhood sometimes and keep them on a short leash when someone comes near. We have a dog door, but we don't let them use it at night so they won't bark and wake up the neighbors. We always warn visitors that we have dogs and we have ways of making parts of the house dog free if necessary when visitors come. We love our dogs, but we try to be courteous with them.

You're gonna be in the dog house over this hot take...

Live in a quiet neighborhood and some bellend decides to get a huge German shepherd. Has to build a high fence to ensure the thing doesn't jump their 6' garden wall, plus it barks at everything, all day. The kids in the house nextdoor are scared of it, it pulls and barks constantly when out for walks and if it ever got loose, it would cause chaos.

But apparently they're all soft loving creatures on the inside, and more importantly, said bellend feels like a big man when out for a walk.

More breeds should be muzzled and restricted from residential areas.

You haven't even covered roaming street dogs. Unowned dogs just roaming streets, back alleyways, being a nuisance.

I love my dog more than anything on this planet, but she's mine and I don't expect anyone else to like her just because I do, she can be annoying as fuck, but I have more than enough love for her that it makes up for everyone else who doesn't like her.

I also agree tho, you don't have to take your dog everywhere you go unless you have a legitimate reason and that's what service dogs are for.

I'm a dog person, but I agree, for the most part. Nobody should have to put up with wild, untrained animals in public places. That's kind of the point of civilization- taming and controlling nature. Untamed dogs do not belong.

That said, I think properly trained dogs are less offensive than most people. I do my best to train my dog, and I actually think she still has a long way to go. (She is very obedient, but being young, has a very short attention span and requires repeat commands to stay focused.)

The average training level of dogs these days is simply atrocious. I went out for a walk on a trail that allowed off leash dogs, and several people told me how shocked they were that my dog always came and stayed by my side when I commanded her to "heel" -frankly, this is disturbing. I consider a reliable recall the BARE MINIMUM for a dog.

"Good" dogs are usually the most predictable, reliable things in their environment

Amen. I can't stand dogs. They're ugly. They slobber and lick on everything. Half of owners don't train them at all and then when the dog misbehaves, if you say anything about it you're the asshole somehow.

I literally cannot find a girlfriend because for some reason EVERY girl that I come across on dating sites has "MUST LOVE DOGS" or "I'll steal your dog" or "I want to own all the dogs." as one of the first things on their profile... Before even talking about themselves it's dogs dogs dogs... It's actually infuriating how obsessed so many of them are with dogs, not because I hate dogs or anything, but just because it's everyone around me. I'm perpetually a fish out of water.

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Am I supposed to downvote because I whole heartedly agree? I've considered just telling people I'm allergic. I just do not get the fulfilment other people do from being near a dog.

Depends on the breed really. Genetics are really important. Also instincts/purpose. Dont own an Australian shepherd in a dense city.

And never ever own baby eating pitbull type of dogs. Or anything that looks like it. Also dont interact with it.

How does this effect you? Do you envy the attention and affection the dogs are receiving?

I think OP already hated dogs and that's kind of sad.

"iTs thE owNERs"

Dogs should be outdoor pets that live in the yard, as long as the climate is safe for them to stay outdoors. Indoor dogs are the big problem IMO.

Look, we understand that you are jealous of the dog getting all the attention, but have you ever considered that the folks you were trying to impress just aren't that into you?