Joe Rogan Says It’s a ‘Fact’ That Jan. 6 Was a False Flag, Cites Ray Epps
Joe Rogan Says It’s a ‘Fact’ That Jan. 6 Was a False Flag, Cites Ray Epps
Rogan promoted the conspiracy theory that Epps was an “agent provocateur” for the feds, a baseless claim that has led to a defamation suit against Fox News.
Rogan promoted the conspiracy theory that Epps was an “agent provocateur” for the feds, a baseless claim that has led to a defamation suit against Fox News.
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Stopped listening to him when Bill Burr told him to shut up about Covid. This wasn't a false flag and if it was instigated by someone then Donald Trump was apart of the plan because we all can watch the video of him telling his supports to march on the capitol and fight. None of it is ridiculous in the scope of how that party was going and none of it needs further insight. A brain dead party is making it up as they go and making a lot of mistakes along the way.
Yeah, it was all Epps who sent out the tweet telling everyone to come to DC on 1/6 and that it will be wild.
Then Epps stood up in front of the crowd and gave that speech about how everyone had to "fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore!" and then told everyone he'd march with them right down to the capitol to force a halt to this Constitutionally mandated process...
Oh, wait, no, that wasn't Epps. Who was it again?
Stop paying attention to him. He was over validated as being a great interviewer, but that's only because he created a safe space for right-wing reactionaries to pander to conservative bros. His takes are trash, his hyper masculine routine is tired and lame, and he is a regular source of immediately debunkable misinformation.
I had never heard of Ray Epps before, but it's the ultimate leopards ate my face situation. Dude bought into the Fox News propaganda so much that he attempted to overthrow the government. Then Fox News accused him of being an FBI plant, and now all his fellow right wing nuts jobs have turned on him accusing him of working for the FBI. Meanwhile, he's still being prosecuted for his attempts to overthrow the government.
Fucking hilarious. I'd love to buy this idiot a beer just to hear how much he fucked up his life.
What a fucking idiot. What is it about being a reality tv star that gives these medical grade morons the idea that they are smarter than everyone else? I mean the public getting fooled sure, that's in the editing and show runners keeping the idiots on the rails. But the idiots themselves thinking they are the smart ones? it boggles the mind.
Rogan, who signed a $200 million contract with Spotify in 2020, has repeatedly embraced the unsubstantiated claim that federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies used “agent provocateurs” such as Epps to manipulate the crowd to attack the Capitol. In past episodes, Rogan said the intelligence community had a “vested interest in this going sideways,” adding that “if somebody wanted to disparage a political party or to maybe have some sort of a justification for getting some influential person like Donald Trump offline, that would be the way they would do it.”
What a slimeball
I keep trying to give Rogan some slack, I've been listening to his podcast on and off for a decade now and it just gets harder and harder to excuse him. I genuinely understand someone having a distrust for 'the narrative' . What I don't understand is how someone could do both that and then immediately trust the very next narrative that comes along. It seems naive and laughable.
Keep talking about chimps and DMT, Joe for fucks sake
A fascist runs defence for other fascists, no surprises here. He's been doing fascist dogwhistles for years and years, for example:
"Surf the kali yuga" has been a fascist dogwhistle for a very long time.
Maybe not enough by itself but when you combine it with everything else it's pretty obvious what he is.
Ignoring the obvious - provocation and false flags are polar opposites, you dunderfuck.
Agent provocateurs go into sincere crowds and start shit to escalate what they're already doing. (Or to justify violence against the crowd, because "someone" threw a rock.) It's an agent, singular. An opposing individual in disguise shapes perception.
False-flag attacks are done by an opposing group. And they do the thing, themselves. They're not goading a crowd into escalating, or inviting violence from undisguised opposition. Sincere individuals are completely optional. The action is performed entirely by people acting under someone else's banner. You know. Like the name.
If if was a false flag, you'd want these assholes in jail as badly as we do.
So the FBI, the one that was ran by a trump appointee, staged a false flag coup. And instead of doing something to stop it trump did nothing. And I'm supposed to believe democrats are responsible? If democrats managed to infultrate the FBI and attack the capital why was trump too incompetent to do anything about it and why did he care that someone died if she was just antifa pretending to be a trump follower?
I had a hard time understanding why people would listen to Rogan after reading all these articles about him. Then my wife and I talked about it for a little bit and I took a listen to an episode of the Joe Rogan Experience.
I'm completely talking out of my ass here but I think Rogan is a good/influential conversationalist. I think people get carried away by his views because of the convenience of his skill, kinda similar to how some people tend to err on the broad side of being agreeable when talking to a stranger for the first time, at least in a North American context. Set up the "conversation" as a podcast and it's easy for familiarity to build with his audience. People getting familiar with his content then subconsciously decide that they really agreed in the first place because he talks nice and now they're a fan.
Great orators are amazing at getting you to nod your head in agreement. I've "fallen victim" to it as well with Obama in his 2004 DNC speech. Just rose tint everywhere. It's a little easier to understand through this but of course I am so open to being completely wrong about this. What do you guys think?
I don't listen to this prick any more but does he ever spend much time going over that Trump possibly put federal agents lives at risk for selling secrets to the Russians and Saudi governments? Or that Trump's children stole so much money? Does he ever?
Turtle Shelled Stomach'd prick surrounds himself with sycophants nowadays anyways.
Spotify owns this mess.
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I say it's a fact that he's an idiot.
Guy that got paid to make contestants eat bugs and donkey dicks gets paid to make podcast listeners eat bugs and donkey dicks.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Guys this isn't reddit. Can we just forget these losers and idolize at least different douchebags?
Why do people still listen to this fuckstick? He proved long ago that he has the mental capacity of a bag of rocks, so lets just leave him in a corner to be ignored and move on.
Wait....i thought it wasn't a big deal and just a friendly protest?
But it's not a fact. Like, by definition, it's literally not.
These fucking grown toddlers think anything that offends their feefees is bad, or wrong, or illegal. Because they have no coping mechanism beyond throwing a tantrum. Grow. the. fuck. up.
People that don't share your views exist, and they are important too...
Wow, I knew Rogan is a giant, unthinking piece of shit but even I didn't think he'd stoop this low.
I hate Rogan oh I hate Rogan so much
I never listened to Joe Rogan, is his right wing leanings a newer development? Or has he always been in the "free thinker", ie conservative camp? I saw a snippet of his show years ago, and it didn't come across as politically charged, but it was a small snippet, and times have definitely changed, polarity wise.
Is there a sub-lemmy for /c/iamverysmart?
Much like John Oliver's Truthiness, Joe Rogan does a caricature of skepticism. He does the Question Things part, but then gets dazzled by whatever answers are spicy, instead of the most reasonable or likely.
On a completely unrelated note, I wonder what Joe Rogan would sound like after a year of sobriety from all recreational drugs, and bullshit supplements.
Does he not look like Dr. Evil?
Pretty sure it's been documented out the ass, ass
What is cointelpro
But it was a false flag - by Trump, to attempt to influence the elections. He wanted to make it seem like the majority of people didn't accept the results of the elections so that he could have more excuses so his lawyers and constitutional experts could help him weasel out a second term.
I think this guy might've had some allegations against him that Im unsure of the current status of, but regardless, this bit is relevant right now.
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I say it's a fact that Rogan is a chaos operative moron.
Joe Rogan says….
ROFL. Who cares what Broprah has to say. He’s the irrelevance whisperer.
Wow, not a single comment here acknowledging the documented prolific use by the U.S. of agents provocateur to infiltrate and sabotage anti-establishment groups and protests. The only difference between the historic infiltration of environmental movements, civil rights/BLM, etc., and this is that this is right-wing. I'll go ahead and say what all of you are too ignorant or cowardly to say:
Democrats are not your friend.
Republicans are not your friend.
If you're sitting here like a 12-year-old generating your endorphins from a "Yeah! The enemy is so stupid and we're the best!" mentality—and that's most if not every single one of you—you're doing it wrong and you're making it worse. You're the problem.
And Joe Rogan, in this case—not to diminish the culpability of Trump—is absolutely right, but you're all too emotionally stunted to be able to admit it. Get off your infantile, misguided high horse. Standing up for liberal and progressive values is cool, but the current Democratic party does not stand up for those values. Perversely—and it blows mind to say this and to see so many people remain willfully blind to it—the Republican party is currently more liberal then the Democrats. It may only be because standing up against censorship happens to benefit them, but call a spade a spade. Stop being such a bunch of incredibly gullible fucks and look upon the rot growing at the highest echelons of our government. It's not partisan, but its most insidious tactic is pretending to be.
Here's a conciliatory piece of advice to follow, a general rule of thumb that nevertheless works out to be pretty much 100% accurate: everything that Democrats accuse Republicans of is true; AND, everything Republicans accuse Democrats of is true. It certainly is in this case. Trump did and said what he did, AND the FBI and CIA did what they've always done to advance the ruling party's agenda for at least the last half a century. Hell, they fucking did it to Ukraine in 2014. It's not contested information, just obscured history, which you'd know if you'd only paid attention to what they didn't teach you in history class.
On an unrelated note I will say that it's refreshing to be able to write a comment that will likely get buried a thousand feet deep and not give a fuck. Go ahead and do your worst, but I hope Lemmy can be a different place and that you'll do your best to listen to a well-meaning alternative perspective (excuse the language).
