Far-right hosts are blaming the GOP's big election losses on Taylor Swift

Haters are gonna hate hate hate hate hate.
- Guess I'l just shake it off…
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- Smart cookie undersells it dramatically. Taylor Swift is a marketing and possibly a financial genius who has locked herself into the collective consciousness of the country. I used to try to not listen to her music at all, but my daughter and wife absolutely love her, so it's all I get to listen to around them. She's had virtually 0 truly bad press surrounding her. You don't have to like her music, but you have to respect her ability to sell her image and music.
  
  If nothing else, she is an incredible business woman.
  
  You don't have to like her music, but you have to respect her ability to sell her image and music.
  Actually this is a point of conflict for some of her fans. Some of my friends are swifties and they hate consumerism and high concert prices and collectibles and marketing that incentivize FOMO to spend more money. They jokingly call her their capitalist queen.
  
  I completely agree except for one small thing:
  She's had virtually 0 truly bad press surrounding her.
  I'd say her dating a scumbag (the singer from The 1975) generated a fair bit of bad press. But it was usually fans yelling "DUMP THAT SHITHEAD"
  
  She probably got that from her parents. They made the smart move to buy a farm and legitimize her country status. And I bet it was the parents idea to do country first and than transition to pop. The country genre was an easier market to break into at the time since country fans, back when she was an unknown, were still buying CDs at Walmart and such. So these store would put a larger selection of country music on the shelves than any other genre. Meaning a smaller country artist would get shelve space.
  
  She’s had virtually 0 truly bad press surrounding her
  Eh, she literally had an album titled reputation because hers was not so great at the time. This was when people were calling her a snake with the whole Kanye thing.
  So, virtually 0 bad press that actually matters, yeah. Good point.
- They are aware that the more people that vote the less likely they are to get elected.
- It's known that more people voting generally leans left.

By all means GOP, please pick a fight with Taylor Swift. 🍿🍿
- As someone else has said before, Taylor Swift could tweet "Bring me the head of Ron Desantis" and he would be dead in a week.
  
  "won't someone rid me of this meddlesome cunt?"
  
  To be fair, he really does seem like the meddlesome type.
- "Charlie who?"
- Never fuck with female singer songwriters.

He fumed in another all-caps post that "THE CHILDLESS, UNMARRIED ABORTION ARMY MOBILIZED BY BARBIE, TAYLOR SWIFT, AND TIKTOK" was "CRUSHING REPUBLICANS AT THE BALLOT BOX."
You are goddamn right it is.
I am inevitable.
- What I'm getting out of that is that he hates women.
  
  Prerequisite for being GOP.
- I want to believe.....so for now, I will.
  Keep kicking ass Margot!
  
  It's either a very dedicated imposter or the real deal which would mean Margot Robbie is a giant nerd. I choose the latter option but would not be surprised by the former.
  
  Yay
- Fascists create enemies out of everyone who isn't a fascist, then complain how they're surrounded by enemies.
- Thank you for your service!
- Clearly a balanced reasonable stance.
- You know that it's like super creepy to impersonate a celebrity like that. Get a hobby.
  Edit: And here I thought Lemmy was different. But nope, thoughtless novelty accounts already being deified. This shit isn’t even clever, it’s just a "hot celebrity’s" name. Wow.
  Lazy, uninspired, and just not funny. There's nothing creative or interesting in making your username "Margot Robbie" and having people fawn all over you. It's probably a middle aged dude.
  I guess I'm the only one who finds that creepy. I imagine Margot herself probably would too.
  But go ahead and validate some weird fucking dude cosplaying as a celebrity (who, remember, is a real actual person).
  Parasocial weirdos.
  
  People like you don't make the world better, just more boring for everyone
  
  Maybe BBS will be sufficiently boring for you.
  
  You know that it's like super creepy to refer to Margot Robie as "just a hot celebrity"?
  And hobby? What the hell do you think this is? It isn't a damn job. Lemmy is recreational. Vanity accounts are fun and appropriate.
  
  Lemme, like the rest of the internet, is pretty ass. There's not much that can be done at this point. I try to step back and just view it as a way to understand human nature when given total freedom and anonymity

conservatives once again upset that more people are voting.. because reality has a liberal bias.
- Yep, if "more people voting" makes you furious then you just might be reaching the level of mustache-twirling cartoon villainy.
  Don't want to keep losing elections, conservatives? Adopt better policies. Nominate qualified candidates. And for fuck sake kick out the god damn nazis.
  
  I would be interested to hear that they officially adopted any policies at all, it seems to be, "elect more of us so there are more of us so we can continue to try to elect more of us" the last person from the right wing I heard try to push a policy while running for office died 5 years ago
  
  Mustache-twirling cartoon villainy is exactly who these clowns are.
- Not to mention they and their policies are trash.

GOP for the last 40 years: destroys the climate, job market, economy, education, and healthcare
“Did Taylor Swift do this?”
- Did I have bad policies?
  No. It is the Swifties who are wrong!
- "Dammit, Taylor Swift shat my pants again."
- Talk about a child prodigy: started ruining everything at -7 years old!

Being upset that people were encouraged vote is admitting your ideas rely on suppression.
- Knowing THOSE idiots, they’d probably just be like “yeah, so what?”
  
  They very much are. They openly gerrymander and openly wonder why the Democrats don't. They interviewed the guy that started it and he's literally confused why it wasn't done by the Democrats.

Kirk continued: "All the Swifties want is swift abortion. That's what they want. It's 100%."
i’m fucking crying how do you say this shit and look yourself in the mirror after
- HAYLEY! YOU GO GET PREGNANT AND GET AN ABORTION RIGHT NOW!!!
- If by that he means 'swiftly abort the GOP', I'm on board.
- They're thoroughly assuaged by the rolls of $100s that the idiots throw at them
- If your political party is so weak that it can be defeated by Swifties, maybe you should rethink some things.
  
  If Taylor Swift wanted to stage a coup, I don't think even the US military could stop the Swifties. God help us if the Swifties ever team up with the K-Pop Stans.

Well, after all it couldn't POSSIBLY their horrific policies, or their proud racism, or thier proud nationalism, or their hate for the LGBTQIA+, or their stance of abortion, or birth control, or wanting to outlaw divorce, or them wanting to leave people starving in the streets.
No, it must be some other thing causing their losses.
- Also how pathetic is it, that seasoned career criminals eeh politicians and propagandists lose to checks notes a pop musician whosse main topic is her ex boyfriends?
- always remember: the cruelty is the point.
  Apologies for being straightforward, but emotional hyperbole like this does not help anything.
  Did you ever just stop to consider that in their belief system they believe that a child in a womb is a living being, and not just a clump of cells, and that they see it as murder to abort it?
  Not saying that's true or not, just that's how they see it. And if you want to change their minds, you need to attack that philosophy, and not just brand them as cruel persons to be shunned/destroyed.
  Finally, I get you're going to want to just attack me personally for calling you out on the hyperbole, but please, consider the words I've said here. I'm not just saying that for my own gratification, but hopefully to help you help change the world.
- Sadly, while abortion is a losing issue for them, their racist politicians are often winning in the same ballots that abortion is being protected on. Conservative women will protect their right to abortions but still happily vote for racism at the same time.
  That's what these guys are missing. They are losing on abortion because enough Republicans care more about their own rights than about racism. Lucky for them, the ballot measures mean they don't have to choose. They can protect abortion back home and keep on sending fascists to Washington.
- I'd love to see the Republican party outlaw divorce. Over half of them will be prissy 10 years on being stuck with a wife they hate
  
  Then they just get a few mistresses and god forgives their sins because why else would he have found another woman stupid enough to sleep with them?
  
  It would be consistent with what Jesus said. He didn't say, even be inference, a word about abortion but definitely had strong opinions on divorce.

"Taylor Swift is going to come out in the presidential election and she is going to mobilize her fans," Kirk warned his viewers on Wednesday, adding, "And we're going to be like, 'Oh wow, where did all these young, female voters come from?' We better have a plan for that."
Kirk acknowledging a) the party does not attempt to represent young women and b) the current plan is that they hopefully just don't vote.
- No, the current plan is not that "they hopefully just don't vote." The plan is to actively prevent them from voting through various forms of suppression. They're not just sit around waiting to see what happens.
  
  TBH, actively trying to suppress voters isn't even the worst of it. The next step is making sure that it doesn't even matter if they do.
  You know, like they already do. Source: Am in Ohio. There are already public statements from officials that they are trying to dilute/overrule/ignore the results of our vote to legalize abortion and weed. And that's even outside things like gerrymandering.
- Expect more stuff like this.

This quote from Posobiec is amazing:
"Republicans still haven't internalized that the Left promotes abortion as a pro-feminism issue. They aren't voting to kill babies, they're voting bc of feminist movies like Barbie and pop stars like Taylor Swift influencing an army of voters," Posobiec wrote.
If they are surprised about the connection between the abortion issue and women's rights... wow. Are they really racking their brains to figure out why "killing babies" is a popular position? How stupid are these people?
- Silly women wanting rights over their own bodies! Who do they think they are?? Men???
  
  Not only their own bodies, but the right to end a potential offspring of a man?? /s
- The left is promoting women's rights as a women's rights issue
  Fixed that for him.

"Am I so out of touch?
No, its the women who are wrong."
- "If all these damn people would stop VOTING we might be able to get some of our 'highly popular' policy through"
  
  Whats your highly popular policy?
  "Well you see, it's based on this simple philosophy, fuck the poor."

It couldn't possibly be because of a heinously corrupt and out of touch platform that promises to hurt some people and help nobody, could it?
No. It's the Swifties who are to blame. Encouraging people to vote is liberal bias!
- These are the people who see libraries, universities etc as liberal machines.
  If education hurts your platform...
  
  Yeah that's one of the most telling things about the American conservative platform these days.
  Anti education because education undermines their position.
  Rely on the electoral college to get their candidate in office because they can't win the popular vote.
  Fight rabidly to preserve their gerrymandered districts because that's the only way they can cling to power.
  Invent and perpetuate lies and conspiracies because they need a distraction to keep their base afraid.
  ...not saying the other side doesn't use some pages out of that playbook as well, but for the GOP, that's their whole book.
- Those regressive bitches don’t want to come for Swifties, they will bury them 😂

Or, now hear me out here, maybe it's just the fact that people have noticed that they overtly hate women and are nuttier than squirrel shit.
- If I had a penny for every time in the past day or so I read "nuttier than squirrel …" I would have two pennies, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
  
  There used to be a tv advert for a chocolate bar called Topic. You can watch it here. Memes in those days used to travel by word of mouth but kids up and down the country were encouraged by older brothers and sisters to yell 'Squirrel shit' in answer to the sung prompt, "What has a hazelnut in every bite?"

My conservative neighbor is convinced in a conspiracy theory that TSwifty dating Travis Kelce is a scheme to get people to get the COVID vaccine. I wish I was joking, but he's 100% serious.
- Why’s he so concerned? Even if true, he could just shake it off, shake it off.
  
  It's cause he has a blank space, probably can barely write his name
- I still don't understand how these magats and conservative conspiracy theorists can think Covid was some deep state attempt at thought control when Trump was the one who takes all the credit for the vaccine
  
  Reich-wingers have no trouble believing in contradictory things, it's like 1984's doublethink.
  If a leftist talks about vaccines they're a bad thing and have microchips in them to sterilize you or something.
  If their Führer says the vaccines only happened thanks to him the vaccines are the best thing ever and will even cure homosexuality
- Even less credible than the Chiefs fan I know who has theorized that she's scheming to break his heart at some point during the playoffs in order to cost the team a Superbowl run.
  I don't think he's serious, but I'm not 100% sure about it.
  
  “And why did Taylor’s dad put $50 million on the chiefs to lose? FOLLOW THE MONEY, PEOPLE.”
  
  People think Yoko ruined The Beatles when it was just everything building up to the inevitable. Shit, George tried to quit first.
- How would that even work?
  I must not be up on my pop culture.
  
  Buckle up. Here's his theory.
  COVID is a fake disease.
  The vaccine is part of some sinister government plot (to do what, only be knows).
  Kelce was in a commercial promoting the vaccine, obviously he's working closely with the government for nefarious purposes.
  Kelce isn't popular with young women. Enter T Swifty.
  Rather than simply have Tay Tay star in her own vaccine commercials, the government decided to have her date Kelce and therefore increase his popularity with her fanbase, therefore making them get the vaccine.
  ???
- How many guns does he have? (definitely a few)
  
  He reloads his own ammo, if that helps answer your question.

Don't they know you don't piss off Taylor Swift fans?
- Let's let them find out for themselves. I don't have much of an opinion in regard to Taylor, but this is fun news

Her music is mid but if she manages to shift the electorate left even a few degrees I’ll be the biggest Swiftie ever. As a 45 year old divorced guy I realize this will be incredibly creepy but it’s worth it.
- Oh she's absolutely shifted it. Telling people to register to vote, to go vote. She's had an impact.
  It's really interesting too. If I remember right, she said in a pandemic era interview that she was told to not go political in country music. She came to realize though she needed to say something -- she was rather disturbed by the far right claiming her as an Aryan goddess or something. A gay friend of hers also encouraged her to use her platform to promote gay rights.
  Long story short though, she's realized the importance of speaking out, and her newer songs talk about gender norms and how she's expected to be a wife and all that. She's a really interesting person!
  And I'm a 29 year old dude, just accept the Swiftness into your soul
- As a 45 year old divorced guy I realize this will be incredibly creepy but it’s worth it.
  It wouldn't really be that weird if you became a Swiftie lol. I think a lot of people who aren't already fans of Taylor Swift may be forgetting she's been famous for almost twenty years... Most (but not all) people attending the Eras tour and going to see the concert movie are millennial women in their 30s.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swifties#Demographics
  
  According to Spotify, Midnights has made me a Swiftie. I've listened to that record ...too much.
- Here in my country, it's not hard to find male Swifties your age. Not really surprising since we're the first country in 2022 to have Cruel Summer back in our charts, several months before it went #1 in USA.
- I am pretty much the same demographic as you, and firmly not her target audience. But when she rerecorded her entire back catalogue to stiff some record industry creep, that was punk as fuck and I'm down for it.
  
  That is punk as fuck.
- I’ll be the biggest Swiftie ever
  I still have principles.
  
  And they all suck

Taylor Swift shit in my pants, drank all of my wife's skim milk, and told my boss to fuck off after forgetting I had a presentation on Monday. How or why she keeps doing these things to me, I'll never no know.
Ffs, she's even putting typos in my Lemmy posts!
- lol Taylor Swift stole my pic-a-nic basket and ran off singing something about being smarter than the a-ver-age bear!
  
  Taylor Swift turned me into a newt!!

Must be hard losing to a millennial woman, i mean no alpha points there.

She's here in Argentina on a triple full stadium event, she endorsed not to vote for the libertarian world bank puppet with neonazi rhetoric, in the elections to her millions of fans, now swiftties and kpop fan joined forces against the new fascist movement
- TIL Swifties and kpop are antifa. Based.
  
  Am a Swiftie, can confirm. We confront with her advice before making any life decisions.

Go against the most popular pop star witha huge and very active fanbase, I'm sure that'll be a winning strategy.
- She has straight up super (hero/villain) powers at this point. Her net worth is more than that of many small countries, and has caused earthquakes with the sound of her voice. I certainly would think twice before taking her on.

It's appropriate that the GOP and their ilk were quite happy to harm the careers of the Dixie Chicks for speaking out against them and that they should then allegedly suffer negative consequences at the hands of another singer.

Whining about being beat up by a woman sounds like a low-T problem to me.

pretty sure there's more taylor swift fans than republicans at this point.

I'm no Swifty, but I'll take what I can get.

"THE CHILDLESS, UNMARRIED ABORTION ARMY MOBILIZED BY BARBIE, TAYLOR SWIFT, AND TIKTOK" was "CRUSHING REPUBLICANS AT THE BALLOT BOX."
Oooorrrr this is the first election since the "just balls and strikes, totally not bribed" supreme court dismantled basic privacy protections for half the population of our country.

These assholes are going to get Taylor Swift killed...

Lol. Place the blame anywhere but themselves.
This is the 21st century version of witch burning, and I’m not even kidding. Far-right circles have been screeching about how she’s an actual witch whose concerts are satanic rituals because of some throw-away line she said at a recent concert, and since their movement is ordained by god or whatever of course they could only lose if the witch cursed them.
I wish I was kidding, but that’s really what they’re saying. If this was a small town, they’d be pressing her to death at the next moon.
How is this insanity mainstream? It’s crazy. They’re crazy people.
- since their movement is ordained by god or whatever of course they could only lose if the witch cursed them.
  Witches are more powerful than God?
  
  According to Salem witch logic, yeah. A few teenage girls were able to override god for an entire colony, such that people had to be pressed to death.

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Anything to not admit they're simply not wanted.
- Anything other than look at their dumbass values

I'm sure Swift loves getting credit for that. I know I'd be elated if someone said I helped Republicans to lose.

- She makes good music, but that's it imo. Nothing great and nothing ever really bad, just alright music you can put on at most social gatherings and someone will know a song.
  
  Where she really excels is her live performances. We took my kids to the movie on her latest tour and it was really amazing. The spectacle certainly elevated the music. I know it was a movie edited for a theater experience but props to her for putting on a 3hr plus show night after night, not really missing a beat at any of them, and doing it with a smile for her fans. Also I can't imagine the overwhelming effort required by everyone involved each night to make that show run smoothly. Truly professionals on all fronts in that regard and it's cool to see it all working.
  I must add that I can't stand anything Taylor anymore. My wife and kids have her music on constantly and they've talked about her non stop since my wife went to the concert over the summer. It's been months of nothing but Taylor every minute of every day and I'm going insane.
- Here are some recommendations! Musically for the last 10 years she's been doing mostly slick and polished pop, except for the two albums she released during the pandemic which are a bit more intimate and folksy. She often writes about (romantic) relationships in a very intricate way (mostly autobiographically), which is a big draw for her fanbase I guess. But she also has some more varied stuff to offer.
  Out Of The Woods (I prefer the original version, not the re-recorded one) - Really big, frenzied popsong that just builds and builds.
  Seven - Beautiful and melancholic song about childhood friendship.
  Would've Could've Should've - This is very Taylor Swift in its subject. A song about losing her innocence and still regretting that relationship years later. Full of angry and confused feelings.
  Anti-Hero - You have maybe heard this one. A song reflecting her public perception that's equally sad and humorous.
  Only The Young - Not necessarily one of her best but it fits this thread as it's an anti-GOP song.
- You probably have, pehaps even felt a musical tickle or nodded along absentmindedly. She's pretty ubiquitous, and her music does what pop does best.
- Literally impossible unless you're deaf

TAY TAY IS BIG BOOGEY MAN
The gop is so goddamn pathetic.

I’d love to see her continue to fuck then up.. Please let them pick this fight.

"THE CHILDLESS, UNMARRIED ABORTION ARMY MOBILIZED BY BARBIE, TAYLOR SWIFT, AND TIKTOK CRUSHING REPUBLICANS AT THE BALLOT BOX."
Mmmm delicious
- LMAO I thought this was a snarky jab at Republicans, but it's an actual tweet by a Republican.
  I have never been able to can even less than I am right now.
- Can we make this our "deplorables?" I really wanna join the abortion army, ngl
  
  Yes we meet on tiktak
- Lmao wait they actually said that?
  
  Quote from article

I was so scared about Ohio and had a lot of guilt. I moved within state four months ago and my registration has still not been updated after mailing in multiple forms and trying to get it sorted out before the deadline. I’m fairly livid and didn’t feel comfortable voting at my registered polling location since I have a new address. I was told updating your voting record was quick and easy. What a bunch of shit.

We would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those darn Swifties!

Pick a fight with Beyonce next. Go for it.

Taylor Swift is being endangered by this insane rhetoric.
I hope no harm befalls her.

We need to protect her.

Potatoes gonna tate tate tate tate tate
- I haven't heard Potaylor's version.

Take the power back ladies.

If there's any amount of causation to this, sign me up as a tay-tay fan.
If this is just more Travis& Taylor drama, stfu and let them just dribble, or whatever bs rhetoric they were spouting last time they thought Pop culture figures were causing too much drama for their liking.
- Taylor Swift tells her fans to go vote. Not for who, just that they should. She's been consistently doing so for years.
  I don't really care for her in the slightest, but the woman has got her shit squared and stowed, and doesn't promote hate. So honestly this criticism rings rather hollow.