Liftoff! @lemmy.world Holodeck_Moriarty @lemm.ee 1 yr. ago

Appreciation post for Liftoff not collecting user data or injecting ads.

I was looking forward to trying Sync today now that it's live, but my enthusiasm was immediately dampened after seeing the "Data Safety" section on the Google Play store.

Liftoff has been great, and want to say thanks for making an awesome app. This will continue to be my daily driver.

Edit: for clarity, because the post got way bigger than I expected.

Sync looks like a fantastic app, and the dev/s should charge whatever they feel is fair for their efforts, even if that's through the usual ads + ad tracking.

My intent was just to post here in /c/Liftoff to thank the Liftoff devs for managing to somehow offer an awesome app without any of that.

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I dont get you people. Making those apps is maybe a hobby for some but a job for others. People asked for Synch for Lemmy and the dev WORKED on it and will continue WORKING on it.

Love to see how many of you guys will work for free. And you probably all work for places that NEVER collect any data.

Could I use a free app for Lemmy? Sure, but I want Synch, because I know what Synch has to offer is what I want. I don't need to settle for an "almost" solution. I can use Synch and I gladly paid for it.
Sync has just updated to allow a one off payment to remove ads. Dawson is also adding a one off payment for lifetime Ultra as well.
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Sync VS FOSS thing isn't over yet? Let everyone use what they like the most. Let everyone be the judge of their own data and how it is being used. For god's sake, live and let live folks
All I've learned from today's drama is some of you people really love apps. People getting enraged over which apps people are using..

Lemmy really seems to attract even more terminally online people
I think it's a little uncharitable to Sync to characterise it like this. Yes, it collects personal data to show ads. However, you have the choice to refuse or pay a one time fee to get rid of it entirely. It's the nonconsensual nature of data collection that robs users of their agency that makes it problematic.

Devs need to eat and donations are not always a realistic revenue scheme. With the one time fee, Sync has signalled it cares about its users and not just value extraction like Big Tech. I will probably pay that and be happy.

I like Liftoff, I also like Sync. I use both atm.
Bro, of course it has a data safety section, it offers a paid version so it will need to be able to collect your financial information, and any trackers are removed if you remove ads or turn off personalized ads. That doesn't mean it's stealing your data, those are regular app functions for apps that have iaps or show ads.
The race to make a Lemmy app has made some solid contenders step up. There are a lot of legitimately good apps.
It's seriously a great app, so I don't get the fuss about Sync either. I've been a Sync and Boost user before but I'm very content with the apps we already got for Lemmy so I won't throw in another one to choose from.

I've been switching between Liftoff, Voyager and Thunder because they all seem to good to just lose them right now lol
lil reminder that this was posted to the liftoff community. the sheer volume of comments echoing the same “fuck you for complaining, you’re wrong” sentiment would really make you wonder. it’s not like you wandered, drunk, into their community and started shit talking sync.

coincidentally that does seem to be what most of the sync-stans in here have done, though.
Yeah, one glance at the terms of use had me uninstalling the app. I don't feel like "decentralized social media" and "sale of personal data" pair well together.
I'm very impressed with liftoff and lemmy too actually. Honestly it feels like I've struck gold with installing liftoff. I'm not looking for anything else to browse lemmy with, liftoff is all I need. I'm really happy with it!
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This is a really shitt opinion. Everyone wants good apps and service, but no one wants to pay for them🙄
I just wish more apps would allow blocking instances. I don't want to hide all NSFW content, but hot damn there is a lot of different porn communities in @lemmynsfw and it is a pain to block each individually.

Sync has this feature. Liftoff does not and voyager(my old daily use) did not.

Sync also does feature markup settings that voyager does not like bold hidden text ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, I would continue using Liftoff and Voyager. Just because we have sync doesn't mean we have to jump ship. I love getting involved with the community over at github.
Just tried Liftoff. Really enjoyed the interface. Grateful there are plenty of FOSS options out there for people who prefer using them.
It's a bit weird. I installed Sync yesterday but I don't get any ads. I don't have a system wide ad blocker or anything. Note that I don't have GApps.
I was buying into the Sync hype but after trying it I don't see much difference with liftoff tbh
Ugh. Lemmy turning into Reddit with dumbasses.
Liftoff is also very frequently updated. Any complaint I've had has been addressed 2-3 patches after posting about it. They work fast, and they do good work. Big +1 for liftoff.
I'm really happy you love Liftoff and it's great that we have so many options.

See how easy that is?
Indeed. I'm using Jerboa because it supports messages, but all these foss projects are amazing, and Liftoff is honestly the best of them.
Thunder's UI is so close. Sticking with FOSS.
I'm so happy to see Liftoff on the top of the "All" feed today! Especially with synch for lemmy becoming available. Kudos to OP for posting this.

You were the first available third party app and your still the best app. No need to switch to the others. Especially after learning about the other apps user data clause.

Your app works great and it looks great too. Keep it up!
I have tried a couple different apps but Liftoff is the best so far. Quite disappointed in the direction Sync is taking. Developpers obviously have a right to be paid for their work, but I despise the choice of targeted ads or subscription based software.
I care a bit more about Lemmy's future and growth that to fuss about an app collecting information. I don't think anyone complaining about the privacy actually read their privacy terms.
Liftoff is superior
Liftoff is one of my Favourite Lemmy Clients. Currently, I'm on Infinity for Lemmy (yes, it's now a thing) but I still keep Liftoff around because Infinity for Lemmy is in a very early stage.
I like that liftoff has a desktop application. I use it a fair amount and it has a pretty good experience. You can tell it's optimized for mobile but it still does well with a mouse.
God bless Liftoff and Lemmy. Limitless Peace.
It's an amazing app, very clean and fast.
Whoever comes out first with Moderator options will get my money. Hopefully it's by donation to the developer instead of a app subscription.
"Oh, no! It's collects data!" - say people who use search engines, smartphones, navigations, personal AI assistants and social networks created by big tech companies to trade in user data.
Same here!
🍻👍⛏️ Rock and Stone, Brother!
Why is it PEGI 18 rated in Google Play??!
Thank you Liftoff 🙏🙏

You are my app of choice!
Your bank collects your data, though.
Here we are, with rabid FOSS fanboys complaining about tracking in an Android app. Probably posting these angry threads from their Samsungs, loaded down with baked in spyware and adware, and acting superior cause they fiddled around on DuckDuckGo long enough to figure out how to install F-Droid and think now they're elite hackers in total control of their device and data.

If you're running a stock ROM, you've already given all your data away to the manufacturer and Google, at the very least. So don't come on Lemmy bitching about tracking, when half of you wouldn't know what privacy was if I beat you to death with it.

You exquisite knobs. You absolute baffoons.
Yeah, the sync dev has learned from Spez.

Thanks Liftoff!

Ok ok, was a bit harsh here :)

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