I like a good UX

This one dude has made this app for years and constantly updates it, fixes things, is responsive, and makes a great app. He's now been more loyal to his users longer than Reddit has, and I personally have used his app daily for 13 years.

Yeah, I'll happily pay for it.

FOSS is great but it doesn't pay the rent people, this guy is doing this mostly as his main gig. This isn't some huge corpo, it's one guy who makes his living building the app he loves. I'm sure he'd love to make it FOSS if he didn't have to pay bills on anything.

FOSS is great but also developers' gotta eat

I don't think apps have to be FOSS. It's super important for libraries, frameworks and other infrastrucuture related stuff to be FOSS, but you can always change a client.

I'm using Sync right now. I've tried a few different lemmy apps and this is the only one that actually works without bugs. Maybe because it's a paid developers full time job and not just some free side project?

I do wish it wasn't a subscription. Apps are generally a flat fee.

The three stages of a long-term FOSS user:

1. How the fuck do I do anything? I'm so lost.

2. I've somewhat mastered how to use it and became a power user. I'm happy about this, I've developed a sense of superiority over those who don't use it, and will now promote it constantly to others like a goddamn cult. My SO has left me and my family has disowned me, but I don't care, they are too ignorant to be as enlightened as I am.

3. (A decade or two later) I don't even give a fuck anymore what somebody uses, this still works for me, and what works for you, works for you. Let's just all coexist. OS and app development models don't mean shit, common standards and protocols between them do. As long as I, a Linux user, can email a PNG to a Mac user and they can open it, we're good.

It's been like this since the mid-90s. Most of the people who are being annoying about it are in stage 2.

I just wish people would stop making software choice their whole personality

Don't forget this is a community built around Open Source software with many refugees who came because proprietary apps were forced on them.

I am currently using Sync, and while I agree that the UX is better I can also understand why so many on the Fediverse are against similar apps. They are here because corporations have ruined every other good thing on the internet and non-FOSS is very much associated with big corporations. While I would prefer that Sync were FOSS I also see the reality of Western society and how untenable creating an app would be without some kind of ad revenue. A majority of people are notoriously stingy and donations can only get you so far.

Everyone is always promoting that app, so I don't understand why y'all are butthurt when anyone complains about it.

Dude, at least people don't use Reddit is what I think about this situation.

The great part of the fediverse is that everyone can use whatever they want. Personally I stick to Foss clients though.

Sync is great and I'm happy to pay for a quality user experience to support a solo dev.

I don't mind so much that it's not FOSS. Developer needs paying, fair enough

I want an app without an egregious Privacy Policy that doesn't bundle code that shares "Usage Data" with advertisers

I use Linux and tons of other open source software daily. I have published and maintain a number of open source projects, and contribute regularly to others.

I also pay for closed source software and have a few proprietary apps that I sell.

There's a place for both models, they're not exclusive.

Obligatory xkcd comic.

https://xkcd.com/743/

I installed sync yesterday, and it's nice. It's very usable without paying for it. In fact, the only reason I could see paying at all is to support the creator. The ads are negligible. I had to look for them to notice em. Basically if you don't wanna use it, don't. Not very complicated imo. There's other apps and the web browser. Your paying for the interface not the content.

Sync is 1 person

Let's be honest though, when everyone is shifting to the fediverse to avoid corporate shit, they're more likely to gravitate to other things that are free and open and be less interested in something closed and for-profit

I use Infinity for Lemmy you wanna use something else good for I've used sync myself it's good, it's in beta and it has a couple of ads if you want them gone pay or if your that desperate then pirate or use luckypatcher it's not that hard but honestly your better off just using a different client if you don't wanna pay there is like a good 7 options now at this point and I hope these posts go away soon let people use what they fancy and stop terrorising them or ridiculing then (note = intended for idiots who think criticizing people for the Lemmy client they use is a constructive use of their time not the OP who appears to be sane 🤣)

Came from using Sync for probably close to a decade on Reddit, so I'm definitely a creature of habit switching back for it on Lemmy. That being said, I tried ALL the apps looking for a solid experience and nothing delivers like Sync (opinion). All of them were missing something that completed my experience, was that experience coloured by my time with Sync on Reddit, sure. For all the options Sync gives me I'm willing to pay the dev half the cost of a steak dinner. I've already spent 100x longer on Sync for Lemmy than it would take me to eat said steak.

As for FOSS, let's just say it's not the be all / end all. Look at all the options that Sync brought to the table in a month that Lemmy hasn't added in the whole of its development.

Personally I feel like most of the folks complaining about Ads in Sync are just complaining to complain. The FOSS crowd is also the most likely to use ad blocking, filtered dns providers, pi-hole, adguard etc and if that's the case they won't even see a single Ad.

I just installed it and I really like the UI/UX. Also if im always trying to use free and open source software sometimes it doesnt change anything if an app isnt open source.

Just gonna leave this here...

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

As I understand it Sync could charge for the app with a free software license, but wouldn't be able to stop people copying or distributing it.

I feel like I'm the only person using Connect lol

What is the benefit over the other options. All I've heard is the animations are smooth and liftoff seems smooth enough to me.

there's a lot of hate for sync out there, maybe it's just because I've been using the Reddit version for years but I really love it. i do think some people aren't aware that it's only existed for Lemmy for about 3 or 4 days. there's going to be issues this early on even if the codebase is adapted from a working app. an app this polished already is impressive to me, the pricing isn't something a fan of but I can almost guarantee it'll be evened out sooner or later

Infinity for the rescue

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This whole Sync "issue" (is not an issue for me) has brought to light the way many people in the Lemmy communities feel about FOSS, free apps, ads even privacy, developers' compensation, etc. It's been interesting, still paid those $20 tho.

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i suppose i can purge the other apps on my phone now, voyager ftw though!

I do find it a bit odd to monetize a client for a service which is 100% free. Not necessarily against it, but it bothers me slightly.

It's interesting how it's just assumed that everyone is browsing on mobile. I remember ten years ago on Reddit people making fun of mobile users and extolling the virtues of the desktop.

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Nah. It's the ads and the steep cost to remove them that make it a bad choice.

Edit: here's another way to put it: Lemmy is an open-source platform run on independent instances. Your instance could use that $20 way more than Sync needs it.

except that being Free Software is WHAT matters, and why you would expect anything else from a Free and Federated network, I have no idea.

What you need to do is get the folks with "Good UX" to release their app under a Free Software license, not get mad at people with morals.

I was excited to try Sync after all the hype (read: advertising) on Lemmy, saw that it had ads, and noped the fuck out.

You do you, but I'm not gonna use that kind of garbage. Ads don't "keep apps accessible". Instead, they poison your mind specifically and suck balls in general. The entire advertisement model is flawed, and certain kinds of people only put up with it because they don't know better.

Honestly I tried many lemmy apps and most apps are worse than just the mobile website, except for sync which is just slightly better

Replace "sync" with "reddit"

Jerboa is running more stable than before i dont need better UI in change of metada

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Was using kbin, but upvote button breaks too much. I was going to fix it myself but its PHP 🤮

Nobody is mad about you using Sync. We are just amused that you decided to pay for it.

FOSS or die

I like sync but the font at medium is way too small. I went back to Thunder.

@THED4NIEL Use whatever tools you want for yourself, EXCEPT for communication. For communication it needs at least two people and the other party now has to use software that doesn't respect their freedom just to communicate with you.

Proprietary software is a cancer.

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Sync is a fine choice if you want to spend a ridiculous amount of money for an app that has 100 percent free alternatives, and also knowing that plenty of other third party Reddit app developers are working on Lemmy apps right now.

Absolutely nothing wrong with giving away a ton of money for no reason. Have fun!