You can remove Edge and Bing Search on Windows 11 even if you don't live in Europe

This needs to happen with Appl too. AppleTV/Safari/Messages/etc app for MacOS + SIP my ass. Its not integral and if you've made it so you need to unmake it so, along with other bundled crap. SIP should literally refer to that and only that in aggregate which is necessary to ensure the system is able to function, not per se function in an un-overruleable way for the maker.
- Ya but I can just use a box and not have the TV itself connected to the internet and you can have it in gaming mode so you basically never see the splash screen with all tha crap
- Yes. They should allow removing apps like Safari and, as you said, Apple TV, iMessage, and other non-basic (on a computer) utilities, then downloading them again from the App Store.
  On an unrelated note, I also turn off SIP to change the icons of system apps.

Wait Windows users are allowed to manage their software ?!? Get out of town.
- As a certified windows user, can confirm, I do not have free will to install anything
- yes, and it's easier than linux
  
  checks notes Registry editing?

You can remove Windows completely from your life with very little effort, no matter where you live and it's free! In the world of today there is no need whatsoever for that exploitive and in short bad OS anymore.
- This comment is so out of touch.
  I work in CAD and 3D printing and I'd be completely dead in the water if I used Linux.
  No fusion 360, no cura
  I bet there are plenty of other apps that I rely on that are not available on Linux.
  I'm not some sort of Windows fanboy either. I'm disgusted with their action in the recent years.
  I run Linux on my home server, but not my main computing machine
  Let's be realistic here, your experience is not universal
  
  To be fair, PrusaSlicer and its derivatives do have native Linux support. And you can use Onshape from the browser on Linux just fine and it is honestly really good. I do a lot of this stuff too
- unless you want your programs to run
  
  I mean some stuff is still running windows 98. What programs are you really needing to run?
  
  Which one? apache2? mysql? php-fpm? python? ftp? smb? nodejs?
  Not sure about you, but I'm using those to make my living.
- Agreed, I hate how people blindly use Windows because "that's what my shitty HP laptop shipped with"
- ...unless you have a machine that doesn't run linux well.
  
  If it's been a while you could try again as the kernel gets updated with support for various hardware.
  One of my laptops was awful with Linux but after a good while I tried reinstalling a fresh distro and it ran like a dream.
  
  As in the PC has some hardware which only has proprietary drivers from the manufacturer?
- Sort of?
  I run Visual Studio Enterprise, no, VS Code is not sufficient for some needs.
  I have to edit complex PDFs in Adobe. Free, open source readers are not enough.
  Even the best linux RDP or WebRTC or otherwise apps still don't seem to provide quite the same speed as RDP into windows hosts/servers.
  I have to use Teams daily across multiple orgs, and the seemingly discontinued Linux support in lieu of the less-featured browser app / PWA just doesn't fly.
  I've found building windows apps on Linux, while seemingly supposed to be net similar, often times do not turn out right.
  Need full featured O365 to integrate with your work's O365? No go. Closest is installing edge on Linux and using the web version, which is subpar.
  I hate windows, I use Linux when I can, but to say you can remove it from your life with very little effort is a blanket statement that is just unrealistic for many. To say there is no need is just off base.
  Source: I use Windows, PopOS, KDE, Mint, and that apple OS thing that I hate more than Windows.
- I agree it's very easy and takes very little force to remove windows from your life. Adopting another OS in the other hand...
- Like that would fix the OS.

Way too late...I switched away from Windows 100% already. Linux works perfectly fine.
- Too many of the programs I use are Windows only.
  
  Like what? I've found alternatives or many run just fine using Wine. Might run a little slower if your computer is older, but likely everything else is running faster on Linux anyway, so it makes up for it.
- Tell that to someone that uses fusion 360 to earn their living.
  If you are just going to Facebook and downloading movies and stuff sure...
  Linux is great for my home server, terrible for my main machine.
  
  It runs just fine https://github.com/cryinkfly/Autodesk-Fusion-360-for-Linux
  
  Your problem is using your personal machine for work.

But can you remove Windows from Windows?
- Delete system 32
  
  Nice try, but you need permission from SYSTEM to delete system32.
- You need to triforce it.
- Throw a brick at Windows to brick it.

Or just use Bulk Crap Uninstaller
- I just bulk crap uninstalled windows and moved to Linux
  
  Linux users truly are the vegans of the tech world.
  
  You must've kept the button pressed too long. Oh well.
  
  I'm working on that

Does this also impact Apple, will they also need to allow removing Safari? If yes, is it possible that they might allow removing other things like iMessage and Apple TV?
- On macOS it's always been possible to remove built in apps. To do so now though requires disabling SIP and mounting as R/W. Then you can use something like this to remove all traces https://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/
  
  They regenerate after an update, there is also a way to remove Edge on Windows by manually running the uninstaller from the terminal with some options, but that doesn't change the fact that it's not easy and you can't just uninstall it like any other app.

If even MS themselves calls it "benefits", why not enable it for all by default?
- Because fuck you.

Why is this a topic at all? Don't you own your machine?
- I'm surprised I own my shoes at this point. Any tech bros wanna take care of that with an app?
  
  The year is 2030. You will own nothing, and you will be happy.
- C'mon bro, its nowhere near that facile although I'll concede that once people are more aware of the options, it might help get things going in the right direction. Bes positive and joyfully share you expertise ;)
- So far, but try uninstalling Edge and then imagine an average non-technical user trying to.

I give it less than a year before this goes the way of the Windows 10 start menu registry tweak.

Can you just do right click uninstall? or do you have to follow a 12 step hacker method that would cause updates to stop working until you reinstall windows again?
Windows has become the most bloated ad-infested spyware os in existance and more people are leaving it more than ever before. In just few more years, it will be a thing of the past
- Reading the article, you do some registry edits to tell Windows that it's in Europe. Then you uninstall as if you were in Europe. No word on what other consequences this might have.
  
  If you have to tell Windows that you are in Europe then the title is nonsense.
  "You too can drink alcohol even if you're underage"... All you have to do is Lie, and get a fake ID". > Wow thanks.
- This is what I want to know as well. Is it a simple process or more involved?

Debloat windows if you need to use it for work or something
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/win10script
- A youtuber that actually devs and provides tools for the public?
  What a gigachad.

Here is a link to the uninstaller.
- You Linux supremecists are so edgy...
  I use Linux sometimes, too... But like... This shit is getting so old.
  We get it, you like Linux. Now let people talk about other platforms without constantly talking about your platform.
  
  I only have Linux on my servers at home and at work, as well as on my laptop, and I agree with that, it's arrogant and getting so damn old. Lemmy has such a boner for Linux and loves shoving it in everyone's faces.
  
  your platform.
  You do realize you're posting this on a opensource platform, which runs on Linux, and is maintained by volunteers who are enthusiastic about this stuff?
  If you don't like all the Linux talk here, feel free to move to a proprietary platform instead, maybe one with a red alien logo...
  
  I don't get why you're offended by someone jokingly pushing Linux?
  To be fair, there are so many opportunities to make these jokes because of how Microsoft behaves that maybe that's the real issue here?
  
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  Because Linux, by its very nature, is the solution to these kinds problems, but if you insist on suffering through using Windows thats on you.
  
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  You food supremecists are so edgy...
  I eat food sometimes, too... But like... This is getting so old.
  We get it, you like food. Now let people talk about eating human shit without constantly talking about what you put in your mouth.
  We just want to eat human shit in peace. Stop telling us there’s a better way, we get it, you don’t like human shit and you think we should be eating food instead. Stop preaching about it.
  
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  Honestly, your bitching was far more intrusive than this unharmful joke. That joke was actually funny.
- Was half-expecting Rick Astley ngl
- Beat me to it!

Still waiting for that LTSC

- Linux users when somebody doesn't type out an essay to install a program
  
  What I do to install software on my Linux PC:
  Open the app store. Search. Click install. Done.
  Updates are done through the same app store that I used to install it.
  What I do to install software on my Windows PC:
  Open my web browser. Search for the software. Pick the right website (with most software this is easy, for some software it's not immediately clear, be careful not to download from a dodgy site). Navigate to the downloads page. Pick 64-bit Windows (not Mac!). Press download. Open file explorer. Navigate to Downloads. Find the installer exe. Double click. Go through the installer. Press next/tick/untick options. Press finish. Go back to the file explorer, delete the installer exe. Go to my desktop, delete the shortcut it has added (I hate it how every installer seems to do this!)
  Updates are either done when I open the app and it does a check, which is frustrating, when I open an app I want it to open, I don't want to see a prompt to update, OR through a separate updater app that runs at startup, making my PC sluggish at boot.
  There are shortcomings in Linux, and there are things Windows does pretty well. It's funny that you picked the thing Linux is literally the best at hands down, and Windows is the worst at, hands down. It'd be like if you complained about MacOS not being visually consistent lol
  You should have picked something that Linux is genuinely bad at, like HDR support or something.
  E: pictures say a thousand words. Here's the difference:
  Installing an app on Windows: https://imgur.com/a/QoLzZlk
  Installing an app on Linux: https://imgur.com/a/prsi9ZW
  Again, truly, I'm not here to say Windows is unusable and Linux is perfect, but of all the examples to praise windows and shit on Linux for, you chose software installation? Are you actually insane?? lmao
  
  Uhm actually its very easy you just
  Sudo apt ant sofo lror irir 8 6 9 7778 k j hofor -76
  And press enter and debug your missing dependencies for the next two weeks, I mean how hard is that?