In a shock for Europe, anti-Islam populist Geert Wilders records a massive win in Dutch elections
In a shock for Europe, anti-Islam populist Geert Wilders records a massive win in Dutch elections
The far-right and anti-Islam populist Geert Wilders is heading for a massive parliamentary election victory. It's one of the biggest political upsets in Dutch politics since World War II and one that is bound to send shockwaves through Europe.
It’s not even mildly surprising, to anyone paying attention and given free media attention given to what were once fringe views.
I think though you are also getting a backlash throughout the world in that this white glove woke treatment of Islam that suggest they do not need to rein in the fringe extreme elements within their faith is acceptable is becoming unacceptable. That they are not collectively responsible for the actions of the those that take their faith too literal wears thin. It is akin to the pressures put on the Catholic religion that was expected to clean up their sins of which were far smaller in size. That was expected and maybe it should be expected that the group as a whole becomes responsible
The result is that we are starting to see majority of people begin to say you need to actively denounce and more so, take steps to remove those of your faith that engage in violent methods otherwise we will collectively group you together and effectively punish you. And while maybe this is a hard pill to swallow, that might be the only effective way to change human nature on a large scale.
Bullshit Apples and bullshit Oranges.
Mild pressure is put on the catholic church as an organization (!) to stop actively aiding the still ongoing mass rape of children over multiple continents through their clergy.
That is not even close to the same as expecting all people of Muslim believe to denounce things that completely independent people do that just so happen to also be Muslim.
And don't get me wrong, Islam might be even more stupid and archaic than Christianity, but your argument just doesn't hold water at all.
I would go so far as to say that it is likely that this very argument was conceived as a racist fig leaf to have some reasonable sounding argument to not like brown people.
Not that this is necessarily your motivation, but you just publicly repeated it.
More of these leaders around the world are winning. Look at Argentina.
Well when politicians ignore the concerns of the people, the people will elect anyone who seems to hear them.
The people will elect anyone who is best at pretending to hear them while offering only overly simplistic solutions to complex problems. Wilders, like Trump, is surrounded by incompetent buffoons.
Wilders is another Putin stooge capitalizing on how shitty everything is with immigrants and all that
When you think about that even a little bit, Putin is responsible for a solid amount of the immigration crisis that has Europeans feeling like there's too many immigrants (Syria, Ukraine, etc) and the answer must be less democracy and fewer human rights protections because if refugees don't have human rights they don't matter, right?
It's a bit like how the GOP uses its power to make life objectively worse for people in general, and then turns around and argues that it's proof that democracy doesn't work.
Wilders is an Zionist peon not a Russian one. He is hardlining to send more bombs to israel to bomb Arabs with.
He lived as a Colonist in the west bank for two years when he was 17 and ate up all the propaganda about Arabs.
This is really interesting and I don't have a definitive answer as to why -- while Europe is experiencing a series of far right victories, the US electorate is rejecting the far right. Trumpists and opponents of abortion rights have generally been losing by significant margin, in off election years no less.
What do you guys think is the cause? Part of me wonders if Trump was so bad that the collective American electorate is firmly sick of far right shit. And overturning Roe just further emphasized that and went way too far. In effect, the American right has pushed so extreme that it's created a powerful whiplash effect.
Another thought is the subject matter -- immigration and Muslim refugees aren't really a big deal here. We're a nation of immigrants, and that makes us naturally more left on the subject, maybe?
Geert Wilders' party is the largest party, but that doesn't mean the majority voted for him. I would say generally 25 out of 150 seats go to parties like Wilders' party.
This time a lot of people voted Wilders as a protest vote (37 seats in total), but I expect a lot of the votes to return to the center-right party during the next elections.
People are fed up with a lot of mismanagement in our government, but they punish center-right coalitions by voting even further on the right while blaming the left (even though most of the left hasn't ever been part of the government coalition).
I bet that if you take away the housing and cost of living crises, people wouldn't be taking about immigration so much. It would help tremendously if the government wouldn't mismanage the asylum procedures as much as it does.
Trumpers don't realize there's more to vote for than just POTUS.
Syria, Libya, Yemen, Ethiopia, Somalia, etc etc
Millions dead. Almost 40 million forcibly displaced.
And this is what you get. .
This is the best summary I could come up with:
THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — Anti-Islam populist Geert Wilders won a huge victory in Dutch elections, according to a near complete count of the vote early Thursday, in a stunning lurch to the far right for a nation once famed as a beacon of tolerance.
Political parties were set to hold separate meetings Thursday to discuss the outcome before what is likely to be an arduous process of forming a new governing coalition begins Friday.
Wilders’ election program included calls for a referendum on the Netherlands leaving the European Union, a total halt to accepting asylum-seekers and migrant pushbacks at Dutch borders.
The historic victory came one year after the win of Italian Premier Giorgia Meloni, whose Brothers of Italy’s roots were steeped in nostalgia for fascist dictator Benito Mussolini.
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who boasts of turning Hungary into an “illiberal” state and has similarly harsh stances on migration and EU institutions, was quick to congratulate Wilders.
The election was called after the fourth and final coalition of outgoing Prime Minister Mark Rutte resigned in July after failing to agree to measures to rein-in migration.
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