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Who went "full fedi" yet?

Bit of a simple question: Some people on lemmy are still posting stuff from youtube, xitter and the like.

Have you gone full fediverse yet or how far are you?

  1. traded reddit for lemmy/kbin
  2. xitter for mastodon
  3. discord for matrix
  4. youtube for peertube

Obviously I also mean other alternatives. Which ones do you use and why?

Disclaimer: this question is me asking genuinely but also trying to make it fun by arbitrary ranking/escalating it. Not trying to say one is better than the others.

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    1. Lemmy 95%. I use Reddit for tech troubleshooting help sometimes but that's basically it, and I removed my account.
    2. Never used Twitter. I have a Mastodon account but rarely use it. It's just not a content format that I'm very interested in.
    3. Sadly I use Discord still. Matrix is fine, but nearly all my friends use Discord for gaming and related stuff, so I can't get rid of it without losing basically all my gaming friends and servers.
    4. Still use YT all the time, but only through apps like NewPipe, FreeTube, and GrayJay. I haven't signed into YT for well over a year now.

    Slowly but surely I'm getting rid of the corpo's grip on my life.

    • Congrats! I appreciate every soul we can rip from the corpo claws. 3. There are matrix bridges that can puppet your account. Pretty cool. Though I need to figure out how to use them. Found out this week. 4. Check out peertube. Especially sepiasearch.org. It's not perfect and you need to accept that they dont have an algorithm so you need to sort by newest or be very specific in your search terms. Trying to get them to add sort by likes, watch numbers or comment numbers. Lets see how that goes.

      • I've heard of bridges but never tried them, I'll look into them more.

        Peertube is pretty cool, just doesn't have all the creators I watch currently. I do still watch some content on there though.

    1. I jumped ship after the 3rd party app fiasco.
    2. I never used it, so I had no reason to make a switch. I also did make a mastodon account once, but I don't know what happened to it and I can't find it.
    3. I only ever use it for updates for a few games. Also, I can't ditch it because the club I'm in at my community college, the club discord server is how we communicate and there's probably no way I could convince the club to switch since the next year, various members might have gotten their degree or left the club for various reasons.
    4. If my favorite channels switched over to something like Peertube or even some place like Odysee, then I'd definitely switch. Most of the people I watch would never leave and I just don't feel like putting in the effort to find new people to watch since I've been watching some of my favorites for over a decade.
    • The youtube thing is unfortunately the hard truth imo as well.

      But I have good news on discord: matrix has bridges for all messaging apps that you can use to puppeteer your accounts. You only use matrix and talk to all your friends no matter the platform. I‘m only getting into it but its awesome. Some instances like tchncs.de already have bridges for you to use.

      Good luck with your journey. :) feel free to hit me up on matrix if you visit. @haui:matrix.giftedmc.com

    1. Use both
    2. No use both
    3. Discord all the way
    4. Youtube premium

    I don't think at the moment fediverse have enough content and facilities for me.

    • Fair enough. I am too unhappy with large corps to go that route but I can see how the fediverse would not suit everyone.

    1. Yep
    2. Wasn't on Twitter really (I've had various accounts over the years but they never stuck), couldn't see the point of it. Got two active Mastodon accounts though and I'm all over it like a rash.
    3. Nah Discord is still perfectly fine for the way I use it
    4. Uploading my stuff to both. But PT really need to acknowledge the major discovery problems before it can get anywhere, and at the moment they don't even seem to accept that their instance search tool (ie the first thing most people will need) is broken, so I don't have high hopes.
      1. there are puppeting bridges for matrix->discord. Just saying :)
      2. I just raised that issue a couple moments ago in their gitlab. Might even start working on it if I can understand it. Let's see. Because I see the potential and want it to succeed.
      • Haha, yes I know, this entire thread is just an opportunity for you to tell people about Matrix Discord bridges! But I've personally got no use for it yet. And that's ok 😉

        Glad someone might be in a position to help with the PT stuff. I can't help with the actual codebase but have been pulling together feature requests and bug reports as well as doing a lot of tech support for new users so we all do our part where we can. Teamwork!

    1. I moved to Lemmy during the Reddit API debacle, and it’s been great. I’ve even started interacting with posts which I almost never did on Reddit.
    2. I moved from xitter to Mastodon, but I don’t really use either anymore; it’s just not a form of social media that brings me joy.
    3. I asked several of my friends to try out Matrix, and they tolerate it and message me there instead of Discord. I do a lot of video calls with my girlfriend through Matrix (via Element) and that’s been perfectly reliable. Matrix has actually worked better than Discord for me, since I use Linux (Arch btw) and my webcam frequently has green flashes in Discord but not on Matrix. I had that issue on Fedora as well so I think it’s a Discord for Linux problem.
    4. YouTube is the last great hurdle….
    • Can very much relate. I also moved due to the api debacle. But I kept on reddit a bit longer since I am head mod in a subreddit which I‘m not abandoning. Slowly easing off. Otherwise reddit is dead to me.

      You can bridge nearly all other services to matrix. That way youre not dependent on others switching for you.

      I suggest you try out peertube. Its a little rough but its gonna get there.

  • I'm in Lemmy and Mastodon. I left Twitter for good about a week after the Tesla guy acquired it and made his first flex on the app. I don't even remember what it was, but I didn't want to be a part of his toy, and all he has done is prove me right over and over. I left Reddit within a couple days of the announcement that mobile app developers were getting screwed, and I'd essentially have to switch to the native app to use a full-featured Reddit. It seemed like a crappy thing to do since developers like LJ Dawson (Sync), the Relay person, etc are who really built Reddit since Reddit was slow to get into apps.

    I use Discord but only because it's what's required for a gaming guild, and my dynasty fantasy baseball league uses it too. I have no interest in using it outside of that.

    I've never really used Youtube, so I haven't checked out Peertube. Likewise, I never really used Insta, so I haven't looked that closely at Pixelfed. I'm considering Pixelfed since I'm a hobby photographer, but I share my pics on my personal website (I don't care who sees them tbh, it's fun for me) and on my FB. I can't seem to shed FB with so many people I know using that to stay in touch and schedule events, and the Marketplace is leagues better than Craigslist.

    • Can relate. Thats quite the story.

      But facebook, of all things? Its like not eating chocolate because its bad for your health but getting your occasional heroin fix. No offense.

      Still, its your decision and i wont judge since I don’t know your friends and peers and dont know if you‘d be able to convince them to move away from corpo claws.

  • I got rid of reddit.

    Switched to Linux.

    Stopped streaming music and started buying it.

    Went with Freetube on PC and Grayjay on mobile.

    Can't leave discord because friends.

    Still use youtube algorithm to find new content sometimes. Same with Spotify's discover weekly.

    I never used twitter.

    • Sounds pretty awesome to me.

      But you can absolutely „leave“ discord as you can bridge it through matrix.

  • xitter for mastodon

    This was step 1 for me, and it happened at the first rumbling of Musk taking over, though I don't use Mastodon.

    traded reddit for lemmy/kbin

    This was step 2. I was using reddit and lemmy side by side, though mostly ignoring reddit, until the API change came through. I deleted my reddit account then and haven't looked back.

    discord for matrix

    I did this a few months ago.

    youtube for peertube

    I don't really use either...

    • Did you do the data export from your reddit account? So you'd have all your comments and saved stuff on your PC?

  • A bit meta, but Is there a unified article anyone can point me to that discusses all the different fediverse video options (IIRC peertube is not the only one) with a overview of how their usage differs from youtube?

    I've found peertube to be interesting ever since it was new, but have had very little luck finding anything I wanted on it when I've tried using it.

    • Yes, same problem here. Peertube is not really there yet but I sadly have no knowledge of peertube alternatives so far. One is crypto which I find kinda useless. Other than that no idea.

  • I still use Reddit, mostly for the memes, but generally, rarely, like once every few days, while I visit Lemmy daily (a few times a day). The 2nd and 3rd I don't use at all, the fourth, no. Mainly because I have to go out of my way just to share a video, and that kinda annoys me.

    • What's the issue with sharing from PT?

      (Not arguing with you, this is a genuine question, trying to understand how people are mostly using it)

      • Well, I have the YT app and ReVanced on this phone, don't know if there is a pipe version of the app. If there is, I'd gladly use it instead of ReVanced.

    • Thanks for replying. :)

  • i'm almost full fedi, even left instagram. it's just discord and youtube that are gonna be hardest to replace for me. been looking at peertube for uploading video game streams but the upload limit...

    • Good for you! :) I completely left discord, especially since matrix has bridges for it. You can puppet your discord account through matrix.

      Youtube is hard for me as well. Peertube does not always have an upload limit I think. Either make or find an instance without it. Might need to pay a bit because space aint for free. I don’t appreciate the discoverability and lack of an app atm. Not good enough of a coder to poop one out though. Must he possible to wrap a firefox or chrome instance in window, right?

  • I only enter to reddit to check information I can't find in other places or because of communities there. I mostly enter for KDE reports and Stellaris lol

    I have a Twitter account because my friend are there and they've abandoned Facebook almost completely, but I enter one in a month or so. I've been using Mastodon daily because I found a lot of people that also have my interests and hobbies, even in my language.

    I only enter to Discord for casual gaming with friends, like one or two times a month.

    And I've been trying to use PeerTube more, but a lot of content creators I like are still on YouTube, and PeerTube doesn't have an official app yet. I'm currently using Piped and NewPipe for watching videos (I use the YT app only when I want to support some creators).

  • Basically everything except discord. I don't use Twitter or anything like that so mastodon isn't my thing

    • Ah! The sharkfucker again! We two should link on matrix since we always bump into one another. :) seems like we frequent similar communities. Feel free to add me @haui:matrix.giftedmc.com

      And you could use a discord bridge as well. It takes over your discord account and poses as you and you can have all your chats as matrix rooms and places. Pretty insane. I learned that this week.

      Have a good one!

      • Not the shark fucker but could you send me the guide on how to do this? I would love to set this up. Also does it work for multiple accounts?

      • Tis I, the sharkfucker

        Currently I use vendetta for discord which is an open source discord client and while I'm pretty happy with it I suppose it could be better at times.

        What are the merits of matrix? What is it exactly? Is there a mobile apk? How do I go about this?

    • mostly post on Lemmy now. So check reddit occasionally as there are a few things there I have need/interest in. I rarely post there now. It's mostly because of their utterly unusable official app - if they allowed third party apps (and my choice of third party app) I'd have been willing to pay to use (I'm not looking for a free ride).
    • I'm split between Mastodon, BlueSky, Threads and occasional Twitter. There are people I still interact with on each. I am not a fan of Meta, but unfortunately they seem to be winning. Mastodon is very, very clunky though it has good points. I am seeing an increasing number of big name posters expressing frustration with the platform as there is no good mechanism to ward off spam and abuse at scale - this makes sense (though I certainly am not such a person).
    • What's Matrix? I use Discord only because I have to as it's the only place for support/community for certain tools I use. I hate it. I wish orgs would use old school web page support forae like they used to. Vastly better...
    • YT premium. Gotta follow the content. I don't mind paying to rid myself of ad interruption, and what's more, it makes it functional for my kids (sans ads). Besides, YouTube Music is pretty good (not nearly as good as Google Play Music was, though).

    I think as things scale people may start to appreciate just how hard it is to moderate content to a useful degree. Not too much. Not too little. (I'm not suggesting that any of the main sites has really gotten it right, but when it's gone (at scale) things go bad fast (RIP Twitter).

    I hope for better interoperability between platform (fedi) but it's likely a pipe dream.

  • 1: I'm running a kbin instance so. Yeah, think I've covered that.
    2: Never had a twitter account. I used to check news from some companies that announce stuff there. But you can't even do that without an account now, so I don't visit them aside from if people send me direct links to stuff.
    3: Yes and no. I'm using both, mainly because I don't control where everyone else goes.
    4: I did (well still do) have a peertube instance up, I've just not moved it to the new server yet and not decided if I will. The problem is, storage. For threadiverse (kbin in my case) the space used is easily containable, the media goes onto S3 and I can surf the best combination of speed/price for that and the DB actually grows at a pretty controllable rate. But peertube takes a LOT of space quickly. I suspect it's a bit harder to have the kind of freedom to post long videos, also livestreaming. I tried 1440p and the server (which is decently specced) couldn't keep up. So, this might be a failed experiment for me I think.

    • Can relate to 4. the space required is hefty if you dont only host your own videos (which is what I do). I‘m considering making paid peertube accounts available so that people can host at my space but dont get greedy with my space.

      1. you can still use matrix with a bridge. I dont use discord at all but I have a discord server running that is completely bridges.
      • Yes, ultimately it's the way peertube will likely be if we want reliable servers that stick around. Paid for accounts for those that want to upload. The way I figured it was both a server with 1-2TB of space on a server and/or 1-2TB of S3 space is the kind of money I can forget about. But much more than that, and I can't afford to be hosting other people's stuff like that for free.

  • The only thing I can't dissociate from is Discord. Literally the last of my friends use that; so it'd be a case of cutting down my circle to 'just me and my partner' if I threw it out. Everything else, I moved to federated services.

    • Au contraire mon ami! :) you can bridge discord in matrix and still talk to your discord friends (and whatsapp, signal, telegram etc) while opening yourself up to new friends on matrix and having your stuff encrypted, optionally selfhosted and accessible.

  • I've migrated to almost all foss services. I'm only sharing from non free services if i can't avoid. I'm using this username in each and every services

    1,2,3 yes
    Its hard to avoid youtube as most of my favourite youtubers wont migrate or even they don't know about foss platforms. They want their ad revenue. Its hard to convience them and hard for them to move

    My Fediverse accounts:
    Mastodon not Twitter Lemmy not Reddit Friendica not Facebook Peertube not Youtube: Funkwhale not spotify: Bookwyrm not Goodreads Writefreely not blogger:
    Lichess not chess.com: Matrix not discord: https://matrix.to/#/@covert_czar:matrix.org
    I'm also on pixelfed (not instagram)

    Sure i do use proprietory softwares and nonfree services. I do consider them as useful as foss softwares. I just explored most of the fedi universe doesn't mean i hate non-free services.
    I'm more active on mastodon, pixelfed, lemmy, matrix and lichess

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/4205915 And finally A meme i made about fediverse😂 Edit: deleted all personal links

  • I'm slowly migrating to Lemmy/Kbin.

    The mods of Reddit are just power abusing shitheads. The same communities will eventually come to the fediverse.

  • 1-2 yes

    3-4 no (or at least, not yet)

    Has it been a perfect migration? No.

    There are a ton of quirks that need to be worked out, but I'm still betting on the Fediverse because of its openness and philosophy.

    • I can relate. The constant amount of bugs is what makes using unpolished stuff a challenge. But it’s kind of the same thing if you‘re living in a democracy. Being in an authoritarian regime allows for more streamlined visuals (dubai) but also leads to ethnic cleansing and other transgressions.

  • I have been for years and haven't regretted it. Run my own micro-blog with go to social, tilvids is an excellent peertube, beehaw for lemmy, and matrix is the only option when talking to family imo.

    1. I already had issues with Reddit long before the API drama, due to spam, etc. However when the API drama dropped, I almost 100% switched to kbin, save for the rare occasion I found some useful info on Reddit, with the occasional tumbling into some other interesting threads.
    2. I post more often to Mastodon, slowly leaving Twitter too, I just need to convince my fellow authors to do so, to give me even less reason to use it. I however decided to limit posting updates of my game engine to Twitter, and instead use the main account now dedicated for it ( @PixelPerfectEngine )
    3. I haven't heard of Matrix, I'll look up it. I don't have any major gripes with Discord so far.
    4. Peertube is fine and dandy, however it's even less adapted than other Fediverse platforms, all while YouTube would be mostly fine IF IT DIDN'T ACTIVELY TRIED TO SABOTAGE MY FIREFOX! I EVEN PAY FOR PREMIUM AND MEMBERSHIPS!

    I don't really use any other save for following a bunch of Misskey accounts with my Mastodon. However, I was thinking on creating a federated game launcher/gaming-focused social network similar to Steam. Some parts of it would use ActivityPub (especially public stuff like achievements), others XMPP or something similar. Issues are the question of a copy protection system, and an anti-cheat system. Banning pirated copies of the game from official networks is probably easy even with open source tools, and likely not so controversial. Anything more than that would require more complicated setups, such as a lot of proprietary stuff, not to mention are very controversial, especially with gamers. Anti-cheat systems are also a though issue, likely being the responsibility of the developer, and also there' a lot of controversy with them with kernel-level anti-cheat systems.

    • Sounds awesome! I would instantly sign up for a federated steam! let me know if you go forward. Would even donate.

      On the other hand: youtube is evil. Maybe help framasoft with peertube if you're a dev anyway? Their idea is great. the discoverability is trash though.

      If you check matrix, feel free to add me @haui:matrix.giftedmc.com

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