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Next-gen AMD RDNA 4 GPUs reportedly won't compete with Nvidia at the high end | PC Gamer

www.pcgamer.com Next-gen AMD RDNA 4 GPUs reportedly won't compete with Nvidia at the high end

This sounds like bad news, but is it actually?

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You know what, good. If the past 5 years have been any indication, we need to stop pushing the bleeding edge as much and focus on stability.

I want games that run well just as much as I want them to look good.
- Should also help with the pricing.
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- I don't buy them for bragging rights, I buy them because I want to future proof my builds. Idgaf about anyone knowing anything about my builds or costs. I simply want performance and quality. Don't generalize.
  
  Also, don't forget people who actually need it for their profession.
I mean, its not like AMD has been able to for several generations. I wouldn't expect them to now.

Though I wish they would, because nVidia is getting away with some bullshit pricing thanks to not having any competition.
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- Conceding second place to a card that doesn't even fucking exist, that will be following up a massive failure which can't produce numbers anywhere near the competition at the same price point.
  
  Sure, they're totally doing that by allowing Nvidia to waste time and money developing whaleboards that Gamers Nexus can jack off over.
AMD seems incapable of competing with Nvidia at the high end, they can't make FSR as good as DLSS and they are still far behind in RT
- And AI/ML workloads. Nvidia gets lots of shit and is more expensive but you get a better ecosystem with their cards.
  
  A good portion of this though is the CUDA stranglehold nvidia has. Good luck getting a neural net accelerated on OpenCL or Vulkan Compute.
- I think it's more that they're unwilling. AMD goes after low hanging fruit and targets the mass market. In essence, they're willing to let NVIDIA invest in all of the new tech, and then they implement whatever gets popular.
  
  So unless they decide to truly prioritize their GPU business, they'll be happy to target the quiet majority who care mostly about price to performance while focusing on innovating on the CPU side of the business where they make their real money.
  
  I'm sure they could compete on the GPU side if they threw money at the problem, but they don't see a need to when it's decently popular and they're seeing a lot more growth and profit on the CPU side.
  
  If you look at the die sizes, it becomes clear AMD are not targeting the super top end.
  
  https://www.eatyourbytes.com/gpus-by-die-size/
  
  If what MLID saying is true then yeah that's possible

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