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US vetoes UN resolution backed by many nations demanding immediate humanitarian cease-fire in Gaza

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UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The United States vetoed a United Nations resolution Friday backed by almost all other Security Council members and many other nations demanding an immediate cease-fire in Gaz…

US vetoes UN resolution backed by many nations demanding immediate humanitarian cease-fire in Gaza
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  • With Hamas (Their primary goal is to destroy Israel) at power, this conflict will NEVER end.

    The only chance to end it is with a Gaza that is not controlled by a terroristic organization with the primary goal to destroy Israel.

    I think, at this point, there is no way back.

    If Israel manages to get rid of Hamas, there is a chance to end this and prevent more death and pain in the future. If Israel stops right now and Hamas keeps the power, it will backfire for sure.

    • And how does Israel plan to avoid the hydra effect?

      • That's a question for the "war cabinet" of Israel.

        Even with only 1 head, the "Hydra" caused horrendous damages and will do it again.

        IMO, cease-fire with Hamas is like cease-fire with Putin or cease-fire with Hitler. It's just a time to prepare for the next stage of the conflict. Again and again and again and again. But as long as the people in power stay the same, it won't end.

        Look at the Wikipedia article of Hamas and search for "cease-fire"... That's not a new concept in this conflict.

        • So it has no plans to avoid the Hydra effect.

          Btw a ceasefire now means 2.3 million people will not starve to death.

          • So it has no plans to avoid the Hydra effect.

            We better hope, they have. And I don't think, their strategy is based on "Let's destroy and decide afterwards". The Israel opposition is also involved in the decision.

            2.3 million people will not starve to death

            The 2.3 million is obviously exaggerated. That's the total population, but I accept that argument. Cease-fire can reduce "starving to death", but it's clear, that temporary "peace" is not permanent peace.

            IMO, Netanyahu has a time window for external support. The longer this takes, the less the support. And that's why they are pushing this operation.


            I hope, this ends with a Hamas out of power, followed by the Israel opposition getting rid of Netanyahu, who is very unpopular since the attack on Israel. With a new government in Gaza and a new one in Israel, maybe, this gives them the opportunity to solve this conflict.

            • Let me explain the Hydra effect to you, maybe you don't get it... Them taking this approach is guaranteed to create the next extremist group within a few years. Israel has already created the next Hamas.

              • I understand what you meant.

                Them taking this approach is guaranteed to create the next extremist group within a few years

                I'd disagree that is guaranteed.

                • Trying to get rid of Hamas => There is a chance to resolve this forever. Maybe, this will fail. Maybe, it won't.
                • Not doing anything => There is an extremist group (Hamas) and they will attack again, because their main goal is to destroy Israel. That's what they say.
                • I think if you understood the Hydra effect, you wouldn't say that. Yes, it's guaranteed.

                  • Come on... You compared Hamas with a hydra, not me. All my previous comments are pretty much signalizing that the hydra comparison is bad, because there is a chance to beat Hamas and solve the problem.

                    Just because you make that comparison does not make it a fact that trying to get rid of Hamas results in a new extremist organization.

                    Either we talk about the conflict between Hamas and Israel or about Greek mythology.. 😉

                    • Either we talk about the conflict between Hamas and Israel or about Greek mythology.. 😉

                      Do you understand I'm talking about fighting extremism and not a lady with snakes for hair? The Hydra effect is a problem in counter extremism.

                      I am now completely convinced you don't undertand what the Hydra effect is at all. Maybe I wasn't clear, sorry about that...I suggest this excellent video from the Lines on Maps guy.. He is more qualified to talk about this.

                      The Hydra effect basically means that for every fighter you kill, two new ones will emerge. Killing the whole family of a young man or women, where do you think that would lead them? That's because the root cause (oppression of Palestinians) is never solved. In fact, Israel is now making it worse with genocide and ethnic cleansing.

                      Causing violence, mayhem, and oppression is what brought Hamas about, and it's what Israel is doing again to bring more Hamas-like factions about.

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